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Old 01-24-2023, 02:35 PM   #1
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**Official CHICAGO (AKA, Not Alpine) 2023**

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2 shows at Northerly, July 7th and 8th!

Always a good time in Chicago in the summer!
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    Re: **Official CHICAGO (AKA, Not Alpine) 2023**

    Will be there! Hometown venue makes it an easy choice. Can't get any worse than the storm of 2021 (Although N2 made up for it) so let's do this!
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    Old 01-24-2023, 02:58 PM   #3
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    Will be there! Hometown venue makes it an easy choice. Can't get any worse than the storm of 2021 (Although N2 made up for it) so let's do this!

    Iím excited for the Chicago shows. I no longer live there, but booked the Aloft River North. My sister is in Skokie but I donít want to travel that far lol.

    May change my mind depending on $$$
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    Old 01-24-2023, 03:46 PM   #4
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    I get that. Chicago makes it so nice to be able to walk back after a show (Despite DMBc hating it ) but if you have family/lodging close enough it makes it worth it sometimes to cross the extra hotel costs off the list. Skokie is probably RIGHT on the border of how far I would go, and it sounds like you're the same.
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    The usual pits requested for these shows. They will be subpar compared to Alpine and Deer Creek but I will enjoy them nonetheless.
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    If trying for pit or lower reserved is it safer to avoid WH lottery? I’ve heard the pit is a good size and tix shouldn’t be difficult to obtain. TIA
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    Old 01-24-2023, 11:33 PM   #7
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    I get that. Chicago makes it so nice to be able to walk back after a show (Despite DMBc hating it ) but if you have family/lodging close enough it makes it worth it sometimes to cross the extra hotel costs off the list. Skokie is probably RIGHT on the border of how far I would go, and it sounds like you're the same.

    But.. even a $100 in Ubers is cheaper than hotel rates at the moment. Iím sure we stay in River north. Just so much easier. Heading to the city this weekend.
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    Old 01-25-2023, 10:55 AM   #8
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    According to Ants there should be only about 11 people at this show because everyone refuses to ever go to Northerly. Praying for good weather this year!
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    I understand not liking a venue (I've complained many a times in the past) but to not go to a hometown show seems crazy to me.

    2 shows on the water with the city as the backdrop is a fun time.
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    If trying for pit or lower reserved is it safer to avoid WH lottery? Iíve heard the pit is a good size and tix shouldnít be difficult to obtain. TIA
    I will say I've never had an issue getting a pit for these shows but I still requested 2 for each night. I usually get approved for one. It's weird because the shows do sell very well but people still unload tickets at a big clip on here and Warehouse.
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    Old 01-25-2023, 01:10 PM   #11
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    I will say I've never had an issue getting a pit for these shows but I still requested 2 for each night. I usually get approved for one. It's weird because the shows do sell very well but people still unload tickets at a big clip on here and Warehouse.


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    According to Ants there should be only about 11 people at this show because everyone refuses to ever go to Northerly. Praying for good weather this year!


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    I understand not liking a venue (I've complained many a times in the past) but to not go to a hometown show seems crazy to me.

    2 shows on the water with the city as the backdrop is a fun time.


    More pit tickets for us, hopefully!

    Iíve never had an issue either. Will only do pit at this venue. Itís honestly one of my favorite pits!
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    Old 01-25-2023, 02:13 PM   #12
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    I love the walk to and from the venue. It is really cool to go through the museum campus. Is it the greatest place ever to see a show? Probably not, especially when you compare to Alpine, but to be able to see them in the city of Chicago and the biggest complaint is the walk to and from the venue, I will take it 10/10. Cant wait!
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    I love the walk to and from the venue. It is really cool to go through the museum campus. Is it the greatest place ever to see a show? Probably not, especially when you compare to Alpine, but to be able to see them in the city of Chicago and the biggest complaint is the walk to and from the venue, I will take it 10/10. Cant wait!
    I honestly don't understand the hate except its NOT Alpine and people have beloved 20 year memories of that venue over the years.

    It's an easy (although LONG) walk from the venue back to Michigan Ave, but at least it's an option. Then you can walk back to any hotel or get public transit.

    I actually enjoy the Northerly tailgate Joe M has put together the lasts few times. There's been live music, cornhole, real bathrooms down by the beach. We've just packed one of those disposable grocery store cooler bags full of drinks and uber there, then walk out after.

    Once you're in if you're in the pit or seats Buddy side, it's a quick walk to real bathrooms with hardly any wait. Short wait for drinks.

    In comparison it can take two whole songs to get out of the Alpine pit, up the hill, and wait in bathroom and beer lines.
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    Old 01-25-2023, 03:52 PM   #14
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    I honestly don't understand the hate except its NOT Alpine and people have beloved 20 year memories of that venue over the years.

    Couldn't agree more. At the end of the day, you're seeing your favorite band (or one of your favorites) and while venue location and amenities certainly play a role, it takes a backseat once the music starts. Sure, some venues have older poor quality in-house speakers and out of sync large tvs/screens but DMB puts a ton of effort into their show and it always comes through.



    The group mindset is also at play here. People love to hate northerly island and this forum has also become a platform for just complaining about everything.


    As always, I've certainly spent my time complaining but it just doesn't help or promote a positive environment. I couldn't be happier for this tour, the album, the new songs (Who cares how long they are or aren't?! ) and seeing everybody this summer.
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    Couldn't agree more. At the end of the day, you're seeing your favorite band (or one of your favorites) and while venue location and amenities certainly play a role, it takes a backseat once the music starts. Sure, some venues have older poor quality in-house speakers and out of sync large tvs/screens but DMB puts a ton of effort into their show and it always comes through.



    The group mindset is also at play here. People love to hate northerly island and this forum has also become a platform for just complaining about everything.


    As always, I've certainly spent my time complaining but it just doesn't help or promote a positive environment. I couldn't be happier for this tour, the album, the new songs (Who cares how long they are or aren't?! ) and seeing everybody this summer.
    Couldn't have said it better myself. Antsmarching.org, where everyone thinks its 2002.

    July cannot come soon enough.
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    Couldn't have said it better myself. Antsmarching.org, where everyone thinks its 2002.

    July cannot come soon enough.
    LOL, thats a great point about everyone thinking it is still 2002. Also the song length hate is so weird to me. I didn't fall in love with this band because of any studio albums. I fell in love because RR95 is the greatest live CD any band has ever put out (i am bias lol). The studio means nothing to me other than we have new music.

    Let them play these new songs live and figure out what to do with them.
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    I honestly don't understand the hate except its NOT Alpine and people have beloved 20 year memories of that venue over the years.

    It's an easy (although LONG) walk from the venue back to Michigan Ave, but at least it's an option. Then you can walk back to any hotel or get public transit.

    I actually enjoy the Northerly tailgate Joe M has put together the lasts few times. There's been live music, cornhole, real bathrooms down by the beach. We've just packed one of those disposable grocery store cooler bags full of drinks and uber there, then walk out after.

    Once you're in if you're in the pit or seats Buddy side, it's a quick walk to real bathrooms with hardly any wait. Short wait for drinks.

    In comparison it can take two whole songs to get out of the Alpine pit, up the hill, and wait in bathroom and beer lines.
    Hotel prices are absolutely absurd for this weekend. $300-400 a night? It's b/c Taste of Chicago is that weekend, I'm sure, but holy crap. I live in the SW burbs and just didn't want to have to deal with the hassle of getting to the city 2 nights in a row, but honestly, Milwaukee and Michigan look more appealing at this point. I've also been a WH member for over 20 years and they give me 200 and 300 level every. single. year. I put in for Northerly. I'm happy to be in the venue once I'm there, but for all the hassle and costs, it would be nice to be just a liiiittle closer.
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    Hotel prices are absolutely absurd for this weekend. $300-400 a night? It's b/c Taste of Chicago is that weekend, I'm sure, but holy crap. I live in the SW burbs and just didn't want to have to deal with the hassle of getting to the city 2 nights in a row, but honestly, Milwaukee and Michigan look more appealing at this point. I've also been a WH member for over 20 years and they give me 200 and 300 level every. single. year. I put in for Northerly. I'm happy to be in the venue once I'm there, but for all the hassle and costs, it would be nice to be just a liiiittle closer.

    0.0% chance the rooms are high this weekend due to the taste. That is probably the funniest post I've read on these boards so far this year.
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    According to Ants there should be only about 11 people at this show because everyone refuses to ever go to Northerly. Praying for good weather this year!
    Accurate.

    Ill never, ever understand why the band/management skips over an iconic big 3 venue in Alpine to play in this piece of shit.
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    Accurate.
    Ill never, ever understand why the band/management skips over an iconic big 3 venue in Alpine to play in this piece of shit.
    I'm pretty sure the low numbers from last year speak for themselves...
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    I honestly don't understand the hate except its NOT Alpine and people have beloved 20 year memories of that venue over the years.

    It's an easy (although LONG) walk from the venue back to Michigan Ave, but at least it's an option. Then you can walk back to any hotel or get public transit.

    I actually enjoy the Northerly tailgate Joe M has put together the lasts few times. There's been live music, cornhole, real bathrooms down by the beach. We've just packed one of those disposable grocery store cooler bags full of drinks and uber there, then walk out after.

    Once you're in if you're in the pit or seats Buddy side, it's a quick walk to real bathrooms with hardly any wait. Short wait for drinks.

    In comparison it can take two whole songs to get out of the Alpine pit, up the hill, and wait in bathroom and beer lines.
    Perfectly put. the hate is so weird. I can't wait!
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    Management has goals for every tour and Alpine no longer fills that checkbox every year. I like Alpine and Chicago. I will go see the band at either one. Both venues pull in the same amount of revenue and switching every other year gives the band a chance to hit a major market that focuses on a group of people that normally wouldn't go to alpine. Also, if you look at the data from 2015 on, you see a drop in attendance for most major venues. Things change and management knows that. Times moves on.

    (I'm taking capacity values from the venue websites so give or take if they are outdated. )

    2021 Chicago 2 nights combined
    $2,755,959
    ATTENDED:35,122 / 60,000 (58.5%)

    Alpine Valley 2022 2 nights combined
    $2,836,166
    33,922 out of 74,000 (46%)
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    Management has goals for every tour and Alpine no longer fills that checkbox every year. I like Alpine and Chicago. I will go see the band at either one. Both venues pull in the same amount of revenue and switching every other year gives the band a chance to hit a major market that focuses on a group of people that normally wouldn't go to alpine. Also, if you look at the data from 2015 on, you see a drop in attendance for most major venues. Things change and management knows that. Times moves on.

    (I'm taking capacity values from the venue websites so give or take if they are outdated. )

    2021 Chicago 2 nights combined
    $2,755,959
    ATTENDED:35,122 / 60,000 (58.5%)

    Alpine Valley 2022 2 nights combined
    $2,836,166
    33,922 out of 74,000 (46%)
    30k at northerly is wayyyy off. Tinley is much bigger and doesnít even hold that much.
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    I agree but that's what LN says. Capacity % is a moot point anyway as the revenue is the same - that's what management is looking at.
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    Venue doesn't bother me that much tbh. I like the tailgate setup along the lake and the traffic in and out isn't any worse than most venues. They just don't play good sets there compared to Alpine and DC. 2021 was refreshing but traditionally they've been very meh sets. I do like how easy it is to get pits, though.
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    How is the lawn here?
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    Lawn is completely flat. Sight lines aren't anything like Alpine, Deer Creek, or even Tinley. Northerly Island uses he land as a temporary venue space so it's not a built up amphitheater. However, they do well with it. Drink/Food options are good, bathrooms are plentiful and never lines.

    Most people don't like this venue but it's really nice on a summer night with the lake on one side and the city skyline behind the stage. I've enjoyed my shows here. Only complaint from me here is Dave really doesn't write great setlists. 2021 was extra special but the bar is low for Chicago so meh. Again, I always have fun.
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    How is the lawn here?
    You can prob get some BrownCooter on it but I wouldn't waste my time otherwise.
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    Hotel prices are absolutely absurd for this weekend. $300-400 a night? It's b/c Taste of Chicago is that weekend, I'm sure, but holy crap. I live in the SW burbs and just didn't want to have to deal with the hassle of getting to the city 2 nights in a row, but honestly, Milwaukee and Michigan look more appealing at this point. I've also been a WH member for over 20 years and they give me 200 and 300 level every. single. year. I put in for Northerly. I'm happy to be in the venue once I'm there, but for all the hassle and costs, it would be nice to be just a liiiittle closer.

    I booked the aloft for around $250 but even then I expect prices to fluctuate or maybe go downÖ

    Definitely not due to the Taste. Didnít even know they still did that.
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