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Originally Posted by Alpine416
TGIY horn outro comes to mind as a newer live enhancement on an otherwise short album song people don't like.
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ok, so there is one 30 second section they added. first off, it makes no sense to not include that on the album, especially with TGIY being a single. why wouldn't you want the most catchy and fun part of a song included on something you're putting out to get people's attention? second, outside of when PHJB guests, they do nothing with that section. its been 4 years now and as far as i know they haven't had a single solo during that section if PHJB isn't playing. why not let buddy solo over the horns for a couple minutes? why is trying something like that so hard for them to even think of doing these days?
if you look at their live performances, their songs average about 7 minutes. adding a 2 minute solo during the jam of TGIY isn't some ridiculous ask or expectation. its literally just wanting them to do their average/standard/typical thing.
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Originally Posted by Fpuonpko
I think my point is just that if you want longer/jam songs, you can get those versions live and very easily. If you want a nice studio version, you can get that as well. Both options are available so whether or not the studio album has short songs shouldn't really impact anything.
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they don't play longer versions of most of these newer songs though. there is no other version to listen to. that's the problem. they treat all these newer songs like they are satellite instead of treating them like rapunzel. we're not asking for them to make all these songs 12-15 minutes long. their live song average time is 7 minutes. add 2-3 minutes of a jam to them like they've done to so many songs in the past. it shouldn't be this difficult to do.
if songs like crush and #41 were written today, they wouldn't be anywhere close to being the songs we love and hope to hear at shows. the crush radio edit would be the only version of the song and #41 would fade out after the violin solo.