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Old 12-31-2013, 08:05 PM   #1
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Live Trax 7

Anyone else listening to LT7 tonight? Already played once, will start again shortly. Just about a perfect show, 17 years ago.

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    Re: Live Trax 7

    One of my favorite releases for sure
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    Old 12-31-2013, 09:47 PM   #3
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    It's the best show of the LT series hands down IMO!!!! You'll have the people that will say otherwise but it's pure bliss!
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    Re: Live Trax 7

    Best show they've ever done
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    Old 12-31-2013, 11:10 PM   #5
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    Re: Live Trax 7

    Great show. Dave's voice and the mix could have been better, but it's in my top 5 live releases.
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    Re: Live Trax 7

    I remember a few years ago, someone had the exact time to start this CD, so it'll coincide with the New Year. Was that here or another DMB message board? Seems like I remember the time being around 10:30pm or something to start the CD. Anyone know the exact time to start the CD?
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    Old 01-01-2014, 10:45 AM   #7
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    Re: Live Trax 7

    Probably my favorite release by the band, and at least in the top 5 concerts they have ever performed. I wouldn't say they were at their peak, but that period for the band was special because their fame and talent were both skyrocketing.
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    Old 01-01-2014, 10:52 AM   #8
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    My favorite release and in my opinion their best snow ever: set list, guests, performances. Too notch. Will give it a listen today.
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    Old 01-01-2014, 11:00 AM   #9
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    Best released version of Crash Into Me.
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    Old 01-01-2014, 12:06 PM   #10
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    My favorite release
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    Old 01-01-2014, 01:06 PM   #11
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    Re: Live Trax 7

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    It's the best show of the LT series hands down IMO!!!! You'll have the people that will say otherwise but it's pure bliss!
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    My favorite release
    I've said this many times, but I just can't listen to this show because of how much I hate the mix It's too bad because the performance is truly incredible.

    I would be all for management re-releasing this show with a new mix. Give me a mix like the BOWA encore disc or Warehouse 5v1 and I'll never stop listening to this show.
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    Old 01-03-2014, 11:41 PM   #12
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    Best released version of Crash Into Me.
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    Old 01-04-2014, 09:25 AM   #13
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    Re: Live Trax 7

    like others have been saying, if it weren't for the bizarrely uneven mix, this release would be by far the best. I mean you can't even hear Roi on Typical....
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    Re: Live Trax 7

    until the past six months, I've never heard of anyone having an issue with this mix. I've listened to this CD numerous times on a home entertainment system, on shitty headphones, on awesome headphones...pretty much any way possible...and this mix is fucking fantastic given the time period. I don't know where all the unhappiness in the mix has come from :/
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    Re: Live Trax 7

    I'm sure there's a problem with the mix if everyone says so, but the mix has never bothered me personally.
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    This Album is great. The mix is a little weird, but i can deal because the performance is brilliant. That Crash and LIOG are my favs released of them
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    Can someone please explain what is so weird about this mix? This is all news to me
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    LT 7 is great.
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    Can someone please explain what is so weird about this mix? This is all news to me
    Thank you. I thought I was on a lonely island here. People complaining about LT7 is a pretty new development as far as I can tell.
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    Can someone please explain what is so weird about this mix? This is all news to me
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    Thank you. I thought I was on a lonely island here. People complaining about LT7 is a pretty new development as far as I can tell.
    It is hard to describe because liking / not liking a mix really is subjective. Plus I'm not an audiofile so I can't speak technically about the mix - just what I hear.

    What I personally don't like about the mix is how "tinny/twangy" it sounds (by that i mean, it sounds like it's all treble and no bass). Most of the instruments are just abnormally sharp to the point they don't have a rich natural tone. The best example of this: listen to Roi when the band comes in during Minarets on LT7 and then go listen to the same moment when Roi comes in on Minarets on the BOWA encore version of Minarets. To me the BOWA version sounds much more rich, natural and balanced.

    When all of the instruments are so "tinny" and sharp they just don't blend well together imo. In the end it sounds like there are 5, 6, 7 etc separate instruments playing rather than one BAND with 5, 6, 7, parts.

    And just to clarify - I'm not complaining about the performance because it is stellar and one of the best of DMB's career (Crash, Two Step and a few others deserve to be considered top versions of the song). However I just can't enjoy the amazing performance because of how un-natural the mix sounds. It's like watching Avatar on a 1990's tv - yes you can tell the special effects are incredible, but you just can't enjoy/appreciate it as much as you would watching it on a big screen HDTV. I have the exact same issue with LT1.

    If the show was mixed like Minarets from the BOWA disc I'd be incredibly happy.
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    Can someone please explain what is so weird about this mix? This is all news to me
    I just found this thread to ask if the Typical jam is mixed weirdly... I mean the sax seems like it's coming through someone else's mic on my CD. I assume this is what most others are talking about in this thread. Is yours not like that?
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    Old 07-02-2014, 09:08 AM   #22
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    I just found this thread to ask if the Typical jam is mixed weirdly... I mean the sax seems like it's coming through someone else's mic on my CD. I assume this is what most others are talking about in this thread. Is yours not like that?
    Yep, Roi is very low in the mix. Sounds a little weird.
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    Carter's kick in this release is really the only thing that gets to me. Sounds like everything was recorded well, but to record the bass drum they used a cereal box and a rite aid tape recorder. Compare that to how his kick sounds on rr95
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    It's possible when they do the Live Trax 7 vinyl box set the mix will be different.
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    Best released version of Crash Into Me.
    This guy gets it.

    I came here to post the exact same thing. The entire show is fantastic but on Crash, with Béla Fleck & Paul McCandless, it's perfect. A really great copy.
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    If the last thing I hear on this earth is Live Trax 7 - LIOG, I would die a happy man. Such a phenomenal concert.
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    Live Trax 7

    Best crash. Best seek up. Awesome typical, only second to the Haiti EP one. Great lyrics and delivery on say goodbye

    The show captures 95-97 DMB perfectly

    and I still don’t have any issues with this mix. Great representation of the time period
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    Re: Live Trax 7

    I love the first 2 discs of this! All around classic show!

    The problem I have with the mix is on Disc 3. Not just the missing sax track on Typical, but the split between Minarets and Typical is horrible! And completely unnecessary! LIOG should be the last song on Disc 2--then Disc 3 should be that entire run with the Flecktones without the awkward fade out during the Davespeak.

    Perfect example of how management can fuck up even the best of DMB shows!
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    I’m bumping this.. anyone know what time to start the show to time the ball dropping with tripping billies? Might try to figure it out later if someone doesn’t already know.
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    If you have continuous playback, you would need to start the show at 10:46:27 to match up with the exact moment the clock winds down to midnight. Cheers!
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