** College Football Season **

[UNLTrpt]

Originally Posted by dontdrink36

What if college football tried a super league with a relegation system? Take the P5 teams plus Notre Dame and put them in 3 groups.

Tier 1: Top 20 teams
Tier 2: Next 20
Tier 3: the rest

Each tier plays 10 games a year within their tier and 2 games outside of it for rivals

Top tier playoff with top 12 teams in 1-4 getting a bye.
Teams 13-16 are safe.
Teams 17-20 play the top 4 from tier two in bowl games where the winner goes into top tier next season.

Each tier works that way for relegation and promotion. What do y'all think?

I don't mind that at all. 12 team postseason for tier 1 seems a bit too long.

Tier 1 1-4 for the Natty.
Tier 1 17-20 vs Tier 2 21-24 for promotion/relegation. 17 vs 24, 18 vs 23 etc. (higher seed home team)
Tier 2 37-40 vs. Tier 3 41-44 for promotion/relegation. 37 vs 44, 38 vs 44 etc. (higher seed home team)

Not in either of those groups, invited to bowl games. Team 65 in tier 3 left out of the bowl games

I also wouldn't mind dropping the 2 games outside for rival purposes. Just keep it inside the tier for 12 games.

[UNLTrpt]

I'd also like to incorporate non power 5 as well.

Power 5 get first 3 tiers to start off with.
Non power 5 get next 3 tiers.

Bottom 4 vs. Top 4 between every tier.

There are so many possibilities.

[UNLTrpt]

Obviously one of the major hurdles would be to get TV contracts out of regional bias.

ABC/ESPN/CBS/Fox would have to cover all top 3 tier games all equally.

How to cover other games would have to be figured out.

[iMAC386]

Texas definitely 2nd tier or lower.

[pearljammer]

Alabama introduces The Advantage for student athletes: https://twitter.com/alabamaftbl/stat...487964165?s=21

I’m sure now many other schools will follow suit, because this looks like a huge recruiting tool.

[dontdrink36]

Originally Posted by Lee3691

Dumb because with players careers only lasting 3-5 years, you risk the chance of missing an elite team in the top group.

I don't follow the logic. The CFP is already extremely top heavy. How many P5 teams have a legit shot at the playoffs or the natty each season? Maybe 10.

Originally Posted by UNLTrpt

I don't mind that at all. 12 team postseason for tier 1 seems a bit too long.

Tier 1 1-4 for the Natty.
Tier 1 17-20 vs Tier 2 21-24 for promotion/relegation. 17 vs 24, 18 vs 23 etc. (higher seed home team)
Tier 2 37-40 vs. Tier 3 41-44 for promotion/relegation. 37 vs 44, 38 vs 44 etc. (higher seed home team)

Not in either of those groups, invited to bowl games. Team 65 in tier 3 left out of the bowl games

I also wouldn't mind dropping the 2 games outside for rival purposes. Just keep it inside the tier for 12 games.

12 is perfect because it gives us so many playoff games it also creates a lot of tension throughout the season in tier 1. The top 6-8 are battling for the bye week. 9-14 or so are battling for a playoff spot. 14-20 are battling to stay in the top tier without the play in bowl game.

There is too much history in college football rivalries to do away with those gsames. Imagine not having Bama/Auburn OSU/Michigan Texas/Oklahoma etc for years because one of them isn't in the top tier. That would suck. We missed some of those rivalry games this year bc of covid and it sucked.

Originally Posted by UNLTrpt

I'd also like to incorporate non power 5 as well.

Power 5 get first 3 tiers to start off with.
Non power 5 get next 3 tiers.

Bottom 4 vs. Top 4 between every tier.

There are so many possibilities.

Absolutely throw in the Group of 5 at Tier 4 and in 3 seasons the top teams there could, in theory, be in the top tier.

Originally Posted by UNLTrpt

Obviously one of the major hurdles would be to get TV contracts out of regional bias.

ABC/ESPN/CBS/Fox would have to cover all top 3 tier games all equally.

How to cover other games would have to be figured out.

Why? They don't cover them equally now?

[Lee3691]

Originally Posted by dontdrink36

I don't follow the logic. The CFP is already extremely top heavy. How many P5 teams have a legit shot at the playoffs or the natty each season? Maybe 10.

I'll give you an example that I just know of personally. 2001 Ohio State was 7-5, and, if I understand your system correctly, would be relegated to the second division. The next season, 2002 Ohio State, won the national championship - but if they had been relegated, the best team in college football wouldn't have had an opportunity to play or win a national championship.

[dontdrink36]

Originally Posted by Lee3691

I'll give you an example that I just know of personally. 2001 Ohio State was 7-5, and, if I understand your system correctly, would be relegated to the second division. The next season, 2002 Ohio State, won the national championship - but if they had been relegated, the best team in college football wouldn't have had an opportunity to play or win a national championship.

Ok that makes sense. They may not have been relegated though. If they were to win the bowl game against a top 4 team from tier 2 they stay in tier 1.

[iMAC386]

NCAA prez Emmert said something in the last 24 hours about finally allowing players to get money for playing.

[pearljammer]

Originally Posted by iMAC386

NCAA prez Emmert said something in the last 24 hours about finally allowing players to get money for playing.

NCAA trying it's best to stay relevant, i guess.

[Lee3691]

Former Hawaiian QB Colt Brennen dead at 37

[prdstmnky36]

Originally Posted by Lee3691

Former Hawaiian QB Colt Brennen dead at 37

Always liked that kid, and had no clue about his issues after football. Sad story.

[Lee3691]

Thoughts on Bo Schembechler being in the Joe Paterno category?

[prdstmnky36]

Originally Posted by Lee3691

Thoughts on Bo Schembechler being in the Joe Paterno category?

Certainly up there, its not exactly apples to apples but definitely both rotten fruit.

[Lee3691]

Originally Posted by prdstmnky36

Certainly up there, its not exactly apples to apples but definitely both rotten fruit.

Did you read the report? The coaching staff obviously knew that doctor was no Bueno because they threatened to send players to see him if they didn't work hard enough.

[prdstmnky36]

Originally Posted by Lee3691

Did you read the report? The coaching staff obviously knew that doctor was no Bueno because they threatened to send players to see him if they didn't work hard enough.

Of course I read it...they are similar, not exact (one was a doctor, one was a coach...among other differences.)

[UNLTrpt]

Originally Posted by dontdrink36

12 is perfect because it gives us so many playoff games it also creates a lot of tension throughout the season in tier 1. The top 6-8 are battling for the bye week. 9-14 or so are battling for a playoff spot. 14-20 are battling to stay in the top tier without the play in bowl game.

Visiting this a week later but I think curbing the amount of games down would be a good idea. In your scenario the 5-12 could play 16 games. 1-4 could play 15. I know thats the normal right now. But under my scenario, 1-4 would play 14, but 5-12 would play 13.

There is too much history in college football rivalries to do away with those gsames. Imagine not having Bama/Auburn OSU/Michigan Texas/Oklahoma etc for years because one of them isn't in the top tier. That would suck. We missed some of those rivalry games this year bc of covid and it sucked.

I get that and you're right but if we're gonna make this work we need to step outside of our history and rivalries and do something bold and different. I just don't want Ohio St. to name Ohio as a rival and manipulate their schedule in even the slightest. (I'm using them an example)

Why? They don't cover them equally now?

They do but CBS covers exclusively SEC teams. They would need to be allowed to cover other teams. And other networks would need to be allowed to cover those teams.

[pearljammer]

Yikes, VT freshman LBer arrested on murder charge!

[snow1868]

Oklahoma State and Alabama announce a home and home for 2028 in Stillwater and 2029 in Tuscaloosa. My hope is that neither Nick Saban or Mike Gundy are the head coaches by the time we get there.

[Lee3691]

Originally Posted by snow1868

Oklahoma State and Alabama announce a home and home for 2028 in Stillwater and 2029 in Tuscaloosa. My hope is that neither Nick Saban or Mike Gundy are the head coaches by the time we get there.

Mike Gundy will be over 60 for those games.

[snow1868]

Originally Posted by Lee3691

Mike Gundy will be over 60 for those games.

Okay....I forgot coaches stop coaching when they turn 60. I really just don't want Gundy as HC of OSU anymore.

My comment about Saban was in jest, surely HE retires in the next eight years.

[MOWJO8185]

Originally Posted by snow1868

Okay....I forgot coaches stop coaching when they turn 60. I really just don't want Gundy as HC of OSU anymore.

My comment about Saban was in jest, surely HE retires in the next eight years.

Saban signed an extension through 2028 yesterday

https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...al-2028-season

[snow1868]

Originally Posted by MOWJO8185

Saban signed an extension through 2028 yesterday

https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...al-2028-season

But....he's nearly 70 now. Should he even be coaching?

[Lee3691]

^
My comment was made in jest to what Gundy will be always be known for. I should have added he is a man.

12 team playoff is likely going to be the next change in the college football system, with 5 Major Conference Winners and 1 Group of 5 team getting autobids.

[drakan]

Saban got tenure.

[snow1868]

Originally Posted by Lee3691

^
My comment was made in jest to what Gundy will be always be known for. I should have added he is a man.

12 team playoff is likely going to be the next change in the college football system, with 5 Major Conference Winners and 1 Group of 5 team getting autobids.

Fair enough.

[pearljammer]

Originally Posted by Lee3691

^
My comment was made in jest to what Gundy will be always be known for. I should have added he is a man.

12 team playoff is likely going to be the next change in the college football system, with 5 Major Conference Winners and 1 Group of 5 team getting autobids.

So both teams in the SECCG will get in every year, pretty much.

[Lee3691]

Originally Posted by pearljammer

So both teams in the SECCG will get in every year, pretty much.

Possibly 3 for the SEC, depending on how the regular season shakes out - I don't think there will be a limit in how many teams conferences will be able to put it. I kind of like the idea of an 8 team with the first 6 sports guaranteed, and 2 at large.

[mthawk07]

12 game playoff would be a joke. You think the blowouts are bad now? Wait till the B1G/ACC/Big 12/Pac 12 runner up gets in there. Wait till Notre Dame makes it in every time they manage not to lose to the service academies.

[Lee3691]

Originally Posted by mthawk07

12 game playoff would be a joke. You think the blowouts are bad now? Wait till the B1G/ACC/Big 12/Pac 12 runner up gets in there. Wait till Notre Dame makes it in every time they manage not to lose to the service academies.

The top 4 seeds would get byes in the first round, so unless you think seed #5 is going to blowout seeds #12, this scenario wouldn't be relevant.