That Girl Is You - Page 10 - Antsmarching.org Forums
Old 05-31-2018, 09:54 PM   #271
ToySoldier#34
 
ToySoldier#34's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 34,758

Shows Seen: 28

Re: That Girl Is You

It's absolutely not falsetto, it's mixed voice which is why he is able to push so hard
ToySoldier#34 is online now   Reply With Quote

  • Want to hide all ads on Ants? Click here
  • Old 06-01-2018, 01:32 AM   #272
    bubba40
     
    bubba40's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Sep 2004
    Posts: 13,040

    Shows Seen: 18

    Re: That Girl Is You

    Okay fine I like this better now
    bubba40 is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 06-01-2018, 03:55 AM   #273
    Utopia
    Minutes and hours
     
    Utopia's Avatar
     
    Join Date: May 2002
    Location: Atlanta (Dirty South)
    Posts: 4,339

    Shows Seen: 74

    Re: That Girl Is You

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Bluewater21 View Post
    Excellent point, ha. I'm not sure what to really classify what he's doing, falsetto just seemed the closest haha.
    Iíd consider it head voice, which is why it isnít airy and pretty, like IBYU. Itís more vulnerable and I think thatís why itís grown on me. At first, I was thinking WTF, but hearing it live made my appreciation grow.
    __________________
    http://www.dmbalmanac.com/Member.aspx?number=896
    D&T - SPAC '17
    Utopia is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 06-01-2018, 08:04 AM   #274
    douglaskg41
    All the bacon and eggs
     
    douglaskg41's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Jun 2004
    Location: Cincinnati
    Posts: 2,625

    Shows Seen: 36

    Re: That Girl Is You

    I hated on the vocals pretty hard on day 1. So yeah... it constantly gets stuck in my head and I kinda love it now. I think it's going to work on the album as a whole. For the life of me I have no idea why they picked it for an early release track.
    __________________
    DMB 2018 - Riverbend (Show #36).

    Squishy Break:
    https://media.giphy.com/media/3o6Ygp...pP0I/giphy.gif
    douglaskg41 is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 06-01-2018, 08:06 AM   #275
    Bluewater21
    Climbin' out the mud
     
    Bluewater21's Avatar
     
    Join Date: May 2009
    Location: Bethel Park, PA
    Posts: 7,496

    Shows Seen: 50

    Re: That Girl Is You

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by douglaskg41 View Post
    I hated on the vocals pretty hard on day 1. So yeah... it constantly gets stuck in my head and I kinda love it now. I think it's going to work on the album as a whole. For the life of me I have no idea why they picked it for an early release track.
    probably so we had enough time to let it grow on us before the album dropped ha
    Bluewater21 is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 06-01-2018, 11:56 AM   #276
    NewBernPirate13
     
    NewBernPirate13's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Mar 2012
    Posts: 545

    Shows Seen: 23

    Re: That Girl Is You

    This might be the quickest and most extreme shift I've had on a song..EVER. Went from "WTF" to "smile on my face" within 4 days haha
    __________________
    Keep the big door open..
    NewBernPirate13 is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 06-01-2018, 12:45 PM   #277
    billycuth
     
    Join Date: Sep 2012
    Posts: 46

    Shows Seen: 7

    Re: That Girl Is You

    I've been stewing on this one for a few days now.

    I'm converted. First listen was not good. But I love it now. And not just because I love Dave (that's obviously a big part of it)... It just grew on me. Can't wait to have it blasting in the car driving down the freeway to work.
    billycuth is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 06-01-2018, 01:45 PM   #278
    CatchThePhoenix
     
    Join Date: May 2016
    Posts: 95

    Shows Seen: 9

    Re: That Girl Is You

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by NewBernPirate13 View Post
    This might be the quickest and most extreme shift I've had on a song..EVER. Went from "WTF" to "smile on my face" within 4 days haha
    Absolutely. It felt very awkward at first, now I can't stop playing it.
    CatchThePhoenix is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 06-02-2018, 03:37 AM   #279
    tanto
    torching time
     
    tanto's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Feb 2003
    Posts: 790

    Shows Seen: 0

    Re: That Girl Is You

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by GoingToCA91 View Post
    Hallelujah
    Hallelujah.
    __________________
    immortal souls temporary form
    tanto is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 06-02-2018, 01:57 PM   #280
    cjstinelli
     
    Join Date: Aug 2012
    Posts: 247

    Shows Seen: 0

    Re: That Girl Is You

    The vocal track was the one and only attempt.
    cjstinelli is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 06-02-2018, 04:29 PM   #281
    dt129700
     
    Join Date: Apr 2006
    Posts: 73

    Shows Seen: 15

    Re: That Girl Is You

    Love the song. Wish it had been a one-off like Eh Hee. I could probably come up with ten vault songs that would have fit the feel of CT better.
    dt129700 is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 06-03-2018, 09:20 AM   #282
    Madnana
    Smoke the Dreaming Tree
     
    Madnana's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Apr 2002
    Location: bkdkdkdd
    Posts: 1,157

    Shows Seen: 16

    Re: That Girl Is You

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by cjstinelli View Post
    The vocal track was the one and only attempt.
    No shit. If they had another take, they would have used it.
    Madnana is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 06-03-2018, 02:08 PM   #283
    crawfish
     
    Join Date: Sep 2007
    Location: Arlington, VA
    Posts: 1,068

    Shows Seen: 0

    Re: That Girl Is You

    Went from hating it to disliking it. It still is not good.
    crawfish is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 06-03-2018, 06:54 PM   #284
    tim.ryan
     
    Join Date: Apr 2007
    Location: Brisbane, Australia
    Posts: 126

    Shows Seen: 1

    Re: That Girl Is You

    I went from intense hatred to actually listening to it and enjoying it (still need to ignore some of Dave's vocals) frustrating part is that with just another take or two on vocals to get it from 50% right to 75% right and the addition of the horns like the live version this could have been so so good!
    tim.ryan is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 06-03-2018, 10:09 PM   #285
    bubba40
     
    bubba40's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Sep 2004
    Posts: 13,040

    Shows Seen: 18

    Re: That Girl Is You

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by crawfish View Post
    Went from hating it to disliking it. It still is not good.
    bubba40 is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 06-04-2018, 11:47 AM   #286
    cjstinelli
     
    Join Date: Aug 2012
    Posts: 247

    Shows Seen: 0

    Re: That Girl Is You

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Madnana View Post
    No shit. If they had another take, they would have used it.
    Nice contribution. I was just stating what Dave has said.
    cjstinelli is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 06-04-2018, 05:03 PM   #287
    ryantravlr
    No Mas!
     
    Join Date: Jun 2002
    Posts: 258

    Shows Seen: 44

    Re: That Girl Is You

    It's harmless and already shows signs of being interesting in a live setting. I like the bass line and for the record the first time I heard it I had the WTF reaction.
    ryantravlr is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 06-04-2018, 05:59 PM   #288
    Rockyall107
    Ya Dig?
     
    Rockyall107's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Jan 2004
    Location: Northern Liberties - Philly
    Posts: 3,785

    Shows Seen: 47

    Re: That Girl Is You

    Yeah I like it.
    But after hearing the 6/1 version. Good god. Please work on your delivery. How can you open a set singing like that.
    __________________
    Ryan
    Rockyall107 is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 06-04-2018, 06:04 PM   #289
    Bmwm3oz
     
    Bmwm3oz's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Aug 2004
    Location: Seattle, WA
    Posts: 8,215

    Shows Seen: 43

    Re: That Girl Is You

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rockyall107 View Post
    Yeah I like it.
    But after hearing the 6/1 version. Good god. Please work on your delivery. How can you open a set singing like that.
    ??? I don't get it, it sounds the same (terrible) live as it does on the album. Frankly, the live 06/01 version almost sounds better and I think this song is the worst DMB song of all time.
    Bmwm3oz is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 06-04-2018, 06:06 PM   #290
    Rockyall107
    Ya Dig?
     
    Rockyall107's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Jan 2004
    Location: Northern Liberties - Philly
    Posts: 3,785

    Shows Seen: 47

    Re: That Girl Is You

    Idk it sounds worse to me
    __________________
    Ryan
    Rockyall107 is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 06-04-2018, 06:08 PM   #291
    Bmwm3oz
     
    Bmwm3oz's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Aug 2004
    Location: Seattle, WA
    Posts: 8,215

    Shows Seen: 43

    Re: That Girl Is You

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rockyall107 View Post
    Idk it sounds worse to me
    It's a terrible opener, that's for damn sure. It belongs mid set so people can take a leak. At least they did the crowd a favor with OSW
    Bmwm3oz is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 06-05-2018, 04:14 PM   #292
    gakm7
     
    Join Date: Mar 2007
    Posts: 1,957

    Shows Seen: 0

    Re: That Girl Is You

    Yeah, it seems like a lot of people have converted from "WTF" to "Damn, this is pretty groovy"... I'm one of those people... The vocals made me cringe on first listen, but now they just sort of "fit" and give me a Some Devil album feel.
    gakm7 is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 06-05-2018, 04:37 PM   #293
    earl
    Midnight Toker
     
    earl's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Aug 2004
    Location: NJ
    Posts: 836

    Shows Seen: 1
    Send a message via AIM to earl

    Re: That Girl Is You

    Imagine anyone else in the world being able to pull of this song vocally. Who else could?

    That is part of its appeal to me. Literally no one else could or would sing like this. And I love the over-the-top vibrato, it reminds me of a 1930s female jazz singer, in a Jeff Buckley-sort of way.

    The percussion 'section' is also being overlooked. Sure its not typical Carter but there is a lot of very intricate and subtle detail, with lots there to appreciate if you have ears to listen. Juxtaposed, of course, against the straight-ahead anthemic, if not overly simplistic, groove of the main body of the song.

    Don't try to fit the song into some preconceived notion you may have of what the band should sound sound like. Appreciate it for what it is and you will be grateful you did.
    earl is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 06-05-2018, 04:49 PM   #294
    Bmwm3oz
     
    Bmwm3oz's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Aug 2004
    Location: Seattle, WA
    Posts: 8,215

    Shows Seen: 43

    Re: That Girl Is You

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by earl View Post
    Imagine anyone else in the world being able to pull of this song vocally. Who else could?
    I'm confused. The answer is nobody, including Dave. The vocals are horrible. And Dave's vocals have always been bad.

    There is no non-dmb fan that would ever be like 'Oh wow, this actually works, or this guy is good'. Everyone who knows what a good singer is would say Dave's voice is not good, and certainly not in this song.
    Bmwm3oz is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 06-05-2018, 05:16 PM   #295
    marchingmonkey
     
    marchingmonkey's Avatar
     
    Join Date: May 2008
    Location: DFW
    Posts: 506

    Shows Seen: 16

    Re: That Girl Is You

    I’m in the “WTF —> damn this is groovy” crowd. It reminds me of recent covers that Dave’s done and added his own flair to, like Take Me to Tomorrow and Worried Man Blues.
    marchingmonkey is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 06-05-2018, 06:19 PM   #296
    dre2142
    Get it done
     
    dre2142's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Jul 2005
    Posts: 43,943

    Shows Seen: 32

    Re: That Girl Is You

    I dont mind the studio version so much anymore.

    Hate the live versions.
    dre2142 is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 06-05-2018, 06:21 PM   #297
    earl
    Midnight Toker
     
    earl's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Aug 2004
    Location: NJ
    Posts: 836

    Shows Seen: 1
    Send a message via AIM to earl

    Re: That Girl Is You

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Bmwm3oz View Post
    I'm confused. The answer is nobody, including Dave. The vocals are horrible. And Dave's vocals have always been bad.

    There is no non-dmb fan that would ever be like 'Oh wow, this actually works, or this guy is good'. Everyone who knows what a good singer is would say Dave's voice is not good, and certainly not in this song.
    On the contrary, the studio take is a phenomenal vocal performance and every moment of it is the way it is because that is 100% how he wanted it to sound. It's art (man) - using different timbres the way a painter uses different hues and shades.

    The guttural sound is exaggerated to reinforce just how intentional it is. He is not singing the song this way because his voice "got bad" or something.

    Do you have any idea how difficult it is to sing with that type of vibrato?

    Dave is developing his voice and finding new ways to use it. It has been a constant evolution. Hell, the rasp didn't begin to appear at all until 03-05, now he has developed it further and is juxtaposing it with the falsetto/thick vibrato style he used in Seven. His voice has always changed from album to album. Yes, even through the big 3.

    Wouldn't surprise me if he did it (guilty as charged) specifically to provoke the kind of reactions we are witnessing here. Most of the songs and music seem to be composed approached from that mindset, IMO.
    earl is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 06-05-2018, 06:28 PM   #298
    dre2142
    Get it done
     
    dre2142's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Jul 2005
    Posts: 43,943

    Shows Seen: 32

    Re: That Girl Is You

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by earl View Post
    On the contrary, the studio take is a phenomenal vocal performance and every moment of it is the way it is because that is 100% how he wanted it to sound. It's art (man) - using different timbres the way a painter uses different hues and shades.

    The guttural sound is exaggerated to reinforce just how intentional it is. He is not singing the song this way because his voice "got bad" or something.

    Do you have any idea how difficult it is to sing with that type of vibrato?

    Dave is developing his voice and finding new ways to use it. It has been a constant evolution. Hell, the rasp didn't begin to appear at all until 03-05, now he has developed it further and is juxtaposing it with the falsetto/thick vibrato style he used in Seven. His voice has always changed from album to album. Yes, even through the big 3.

    Wouldn't surprise me if he did it (guilty as charged) specifically to provoke the kind of reactions we are witnessing here. Most of the songs and music seem to be composed approached from that mindset, IMO.

    well...some art is pretty difficulty to achieve....and just as shitty.



    Its not necessary for Dave to do this. But to each their own i guess.
    dre2142 is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 06-05-2018, 06:39 PM   #299
    earl
    Midnight Toker
     
    earl's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Aug 2004
    Location: NJ
    Posts: 836

    Shows Seen: 1
    Send a message via AIM to earl

    Re: That Girl Is You

    Its not a matter of difficulty determining artistic value. But as a singer who works on his vocals and vocal delivery, when I first heard TGIY I was thinking "Jesus Christ, now here is a guy in complete command of his vocals". He can go so many different places with his voice, and he does - not for the sake of displaying his abilities but for conveying yet even deeper emotions. I can't help but appreciate that, while genuinely enjoying the sound of him doing so within the context of an almost 30-year-old band that is still evolving.

    If you or others think it is 'shitty' art then, like you said, to each their own.


    **This is also doesn't mean I'm over here listening to the song on repeat, or think it is some great artistic statement. But their is beauty on this album that is being overlooked. It almost seems like some people are in a rush to form an opinion about the new material. And why these broad, blanket generalizations like 'shitty'? So a song is either 'shitty' or 'not-shitty'? Up to par or not?

    Last edited by earl; 06-05-2018 at 06:43 PM.
    earl is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 06-05-2018, 07:34 PM   #300
    Bmwm3oz
     
    Bmwm3oz's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Aug 2004
    Location: Seattle, WA
    Posts: 8,215

    Shows Seen: 43

    Re: That Girl Is You

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by earl View Post
    On the contrary, the studio take is a phenomenal vocal performance and every moment of it is the way it is because that is 100% how he wanted it to sound. It's art (man) - using different timbres the way a painter uses different hues and shades.

    The guttural sound is exaggerated to reinforce just how intentional it is. He is not singing the song this way because his voice "got bad" or something.

    Do you have any idea how difficult it is to sing with that type of vibrato?

    Dave is developing his voice and finding new ways to use it. It has been a constant evolution. Hell, the rasp didn't begin to appear at all until 03-05, now he has developed it further and is juxtaposing it with the falsetto/thick vibrato style he used in Seven. His voice has always changed from album to album. Yes, even through the big 3.

    Wouldn't surprise me if he did it (guilty as charged) specifically to provoke the kind of reactions we are witnessing here. Most of the songs and music seem to be composed approached from that mindset, IMO.
    I love the art card. Here is more Ďartí for you. Yes, people actually clapped for this.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdZ9weP5i68

    There will always be dedicated fans who try to find a deep meaning in Kayne West poop song, or Yoko Onoís episode, or the vocals in this DMb song.

    Just like there will always be people who find a bucket of paint thrown against a wall as something amazing that Ďyou just donít understandí.

    Not trying to insult you, but youíre not gonna convince me Dave is even trying here. It took them six years to make this album and everyone got tired of waiting so Dave recorded this Ďsoloí song half drunk just to get the album finished.
    Bmwm3oz is offline   Reply With Quote
    Reply

    Thread Tools
    Display Modes

    Posting Rules
    You may not post new threads
    You may not post replies
    You may not post attachments
    You may not edit your posts

    BB code is On
    Smilies are On
    [IMG] code is Off
    HTML code is Off

    Forum Jump


    Want to hide all ads on Ants? Click here

    All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:30 PM.


    Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
    Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.


       
    Site LinksAbout AntsAnts MobileTweet Tweet
    Home
    Ants+
    Tour Central
    Search bar
    RSS Feeds
    About Us
    Contact Us
    The Ants Blog
    Advertise on Ants
    Privacy Policy
    Ants on your cell phone
    iAnts
    mobile news
    mobile setlists
    antslive!
    Ants' Twitter
    DMBLive Twitter
    Ants Facebook
    Ants Instagram
    Matt's Twitter
    Joe's Twitter