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Old 08-25-2020, 05:16 AM   #751
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When the release is good, yes.

Ah, I forgot how much this site loved the exclusive Live 25 vinyl.


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    Ah, I forgot how much this site loved the exclusive Live 25 vinyl.


    Not melty at all here. No tantrums. Loved by all!
    Why would non-vinyl users, the vast majority of music consumers in 2020, be excited about an exclusive vinyl release? Especially one as unique and great as Live 25?
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    Ah, I forgot how much this site loved the exclusive Live 25 vinyl.

    Not melty at all here. No tantrums. Loved by all!
    Seems like there was a lot of love.

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    Holy shit....
    they finally have the Bartender from Boston 2002 on there..... yessssss
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    Grabbed one of the bundles. Super excited.
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    Holy shit that's awesome
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    Ordered. This is fantastic.
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    love this, just ordered
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    holy shit.
    pricey? yes
    no brainer? yes
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    Ordered! Can't wait, this is awesome.
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    Old 08-25-2020, 05:25 AM   #754
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    Why would non-vinyl users, the vast majority of music consumers in 2020, be excited about an exclusive vinyl release? Especially one as unique and great as Live 25?
    Good thing it wasn't exclusive and there was a download option added!


    But, this brings up a good point. Vinyl is now the dominate physical media product in the market, but streaming and digital playback is still king. I can only name a handful of things release solely on vinyl by an establish band/artist that had no digital or CD offering. DMB, if they ever decided on a vinyl-only exclusive, would be doing something none of their peers do. Seems like that would be bad management on their end.
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    Old 08-25-2020, 05:35 AM   #755
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    Good thing it wasn't exclusive and there was a download option added!


    But, this brings up a good point. Vinyl is now the dominate physical media product in the market, but streaming and digital playback is still king. I can only name a handful of things release solely on vinyl by an establish band/artist that had no digital or CD offering. DMB, if they ever decided on a vinyl-only exclusive, would be doing something none of their peers do. Seems like that would be bad management on their end.
    Exactly. Vinyl releases are great, and those that enjoy that medium should want awesome releases on vinyl. But digital is and always will be king. Bands that don't offer digital versions will lose a ton of money. There were many that acquired the Live 25 before it's eventual release on digital and probably didn't buy the $45 digital version when they already had a 95% quality rip for free. I'm not saying that is right, but it's the truth.

    If they release Live 25 digitally at the same time as the vinyl I would have instantly purchased a bundle anywhere between $60-$100 depending on what else was offered with it.

    The Tom Petty Wildflowers release is a perfect example of this. They have a huge and awesome vinyl release and also offer the same release digitally for slightly less. The vinyl people will happily buy all the product. Those that can't afford or don't use vinyl can still enjoy that historic release and management will make a lot of money.

    If DMB does something similar with BTCS I'll buy the most expensive digital bundle offered in a heartbeat. If they don't offer it digitally I'm sure it will be able to be found on Al Gore's internet and I'll partake if I have no other way to listen to something as awesome as the Wildflower release from DMB.
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    if they ever decided on a vinyl-only exclusive, would be doing something none of their peers do. Seems like that would be bad management on their end.

    Being unique is bad management! Noted.


    I can't wait to pick up that Pearl Jam MTV Unplugged digital download, because none of the DMB peers would EVER release something just on vinyl.


    Did everyone pre-order their CDs from Metallica's vinyl club?



    Or are we only using Big Head Todd and the Monsters as their peer group?
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    Being unique is bad management! Noted.


    I can't wait to pick up that Pearl Jam MTV Unplugged digital download, because none of the DMB peers would EVER release something just on vinyl.


    Did everyone pre-order their CDs from Metallica's vinyl club?



    Or are we only using Big Head Todd and the Monsters as their peer group?
    Pearl Jam https://www.amazon.com/MTV-Unplugged...9GQ8YEPEB6HW02

    Metallica https://www.metallica.com/vinyl-club.html

    You can buy the Pearl Jam on CD and the Metallica Club says never released before on Vinyl.

    Nice try though, Hilly
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    Being unique is bad management!
    If you think retailers selling product at 27% of list price is good business...¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    I can't wait to pick up that Pearl Jam MTV Unplugged digital download, because none of the DMB peers would EVER release something just on vinyl.

    Did everyone pre-order their CDs from Metallica's vinyl club?
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    Pearl Jam https://www.amazon.com/MTV-Unplugged...9GQ8YEPEB6HW02

    Metallica https://www.metallica.com/vinyl-club.html

    You can buy the Pearl Jam on CD and the Metallica Club says never released before on Vinyl.

    Nice try though, Hilly
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    Old 08-25-2020, 08:39 AM   #759
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    Pearl Jam https://www.amazon.com/MTV-Unplugged...9GQ8YEPEB6HW02

    Metallica https://www.metallica.com/vinyl-club.html

    You can buy the Pearl Jam on CD and the Metallica Club says never released before on Vinyl.

    Nice try though, Hilly

    The Pearl Jam is not on CD. That clearly leads to a different CD, if you follow your link.


    The Metallica vinyl is unreleased live tracks for the first series of the vinyl series. So, yes, never before released on vinyl. Not released elsewhere.
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    If you think retailers selling product at 27% of list price is good business...¯\_(ツ)_/¯




    dunked!

    Dunked because you can buy another band's MTV unplugged?
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    The Pearl Jam is not on CD. That clearly leads to a different CD, if you follow your link.


    The Metallica vinyl is unreleased live tracks for the first series of the vinyl series. So, yes, never before released on vinyl. Not released elsewhere.
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    The 2020 Vinyl Club Subscription will be available exclusively to Fifth Members and will bring you rare cuts, demos & rough mixes, and live rarities; who knows what we’ll dig up! …Obviously they’ll all be cuts that have never been released on vinyl before.

    WHAT YOUR SUBSCRIPTION INCLUDES
    Four 7” vinyl records including rare cuts, demos & rough mixes, and live rarities; who knows what we’ll dig up!
    Digital Download Card
    Personalized Membership Card
    Select releases throughout the year will include additional collectibles; this could be anything from exclusive stickers to picks, or even posters!
    The opportunity to purchase exclusive Metallica Vinyl Club merch.
    Direct quote from the Metallica vinyl page. Never before released on vinyl doesn't mean never before released at all. It also includes a digital dl card

    The attached image is of the PJ cd page and here is a link to a target page to buy the CD

    https://www.target.com/p/pearl-jam-c...d/-/A-54310690
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    Direct quote from the Metallica vinyl page. Never before released on vinyl doesn't mean never before released at all. It also includes a digital dl card

    The attached image is of the PJ cd page and here is a link to a target page to buy the CD

    https://www.target.com/p/pearl-jam-c...d/-/A-54310690
    That's not an official PJ CD release.

    Unplugged was released on DVD as part of the Ten Deluxe Edition. That was 2009. Then last year there was the official vinyl audio release.

    But there has never been an official audio CD release.

    There have of course been very easily obtainable digital files from the original TV broadcast and then the DVD. So it's not like the DMB25 thing which for months was really not available in official/soundboard quality except for the vinyl only release.
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    As a vinyl collector, even when this was available for $28, i still didn't pick it up because i knew i would never listen to this show. Still think it's a terrible release. LT 35 is WAY better and I immediately purchased.
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    Christ, this clown is back?
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    Direct quote from the Metallica vinyl page. Never before released on vinyl doesn't mean never before released at all. It also includes a digital dl card

    The attached image is of the PJ cd page and here is a link to a target page to buy the CD

    https://www.target.com/p/pearl-jam-c...d/-/A-54310690

    You've found a crappy bootleg. I guess that meets the standards for you.


    And every single one of the announced Metallica releases are only available through buying the vinyl. Yes, there's a download for those purchases, but the music is not available elsewhere.
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    That's not an official PJ CD release.

    Unplugged was released on DVD as part of the Ten Deluxe Edition. That was 2009. Then last year there was the official vinyl audio release.

    But there has never been an official audio CD release.

    There have of course been very easily obtainable digital files from the original TV broadcast and then the DVD. So it's not like the DMB25 thing which for months was really not available in official/soundboard quality except for the vinyl only release.
    It's also on Amazon prime streaming: https://www.amazon.com/MTV-Unplugged.../dp/B0824LLQZH


    Audio streaming (HD Remaster) is available on Deezer, as well: https://www.deezer.com/us/album/55648432
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    Does anyone have this album on CD for sale?
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    Send an email to musictoday/Warehouse stating their print run of the CD was too low, print some more. I'm going to do that right now and I have the CD. I'm just nervous I'll end up scratching it.
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    Does anyone have this album on CD for sale?
    $55 bucks plus shipping. Take it or leave it.
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    You mean $5, right?
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    Send an email to musictoday/Warehouse stating their print run of the CD was too low, print some more. I'm going to do that right now and I have the CD. I'm just nervous I'll end up scratching it.
    Any idea why they didn’t give this a general release the way titles like Folsom Field, 12.19.98 & live in New York City did?
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    Any idea why they didn’t give this a general release the way titles like Folsom Field, 12.19.98 & live in New York City did?
    There's essentially no more market for CDs to go to retail left. Go to your local Walmart and see what they have in CDs.
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    You mean $5, right?
    Hey, it's a rarity and you want the physical format which I have and you do not.
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    There's essentially no more market for CDs to go to retail left. Go to your local Walmart and see what they have in CDs.
    Agreed it seems there are a handful or people looking for this in physical format though. But I would argue if they would have made another run of 1000 they'd never sell them all. It was probably just the right amount to be made.

    I think Discogs would have it.
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    Agreed it seems there are a handful or people looking for this in physical format though. But I would argue if they would have made another run of 1000 they'd never sell them all. It was probably just the right amount to be made.

    I think Discogs would have it.
    Says the guy setting his CD at $55. Discogs doesn't have it in CD, and there's more than a handful of people I've seen on this site alone bemoaning the CD is no longer available or saying had this primarily been a CD first and not vinyl this would have gone over better here on Ants. I have a copy and I'll buy another so I can play mine a lot more often.
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    No matter the format, it’s a regrettable release
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    Says the guy setting his CD at $55. Discogs doesn't have it in CD, and there's more than a handful of people I've seen on this site alone bemoaning the CD is no longer available or saying had this primarily been a CD first and not vinyl this would have gone over better here on Ants. I have a copy and I'll buy another so I can play mine a lot more often.
    I'm not sure what you're saying. You think 1000 more people would buy it? I'm saying they're probably about 100 short of demand and they're not going to make a run for the remaining 100 that would buy this.
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    No matter the format, it’s a regrettable release
    I thought it was a cool release! But maybe I’m just biased.

    The set obviously wasn’t the best, but the show was incredible. DMB playing three songs with orchestral accompaniment? The only live performance of When I’m Weary & Mark Batson guesting… Probably the best mix out of any live release we’ve gotten over the last 3 years.
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    If this release helps management not select more Buddy Strong era releases, why is this regrettable? I don't understand that.
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    There's essentially no more market for CDs to go to retail left. Go to your local Walmart and see what they have in CDs.
    Target still has CDs (I got the newest Norah Jones there). Amazon.com.
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