Best 4.0 show?

[Dannyyankou]

Virginia Beach 2021 is a dark horse.

But my vote goes to Alpine N1, 2019

http://dmbalmanac.com/TourShowSet.as...160&where=2019

[ToySoldier#34]

Originally Posted by grilldanmo

Shorter answer...SPAC 2021 N2 might be the best show/performance by this version of DMB. They have gotten better w/ Buddy with and throughout each tour since he joined. Everyone is finding their place and even the best sounds for the tunes.

Timmy's sounding as good as he ever has. He's using far less distortion, grooving like mad, switching up what he plays and how he approaches tunes (fresh takes), and seemingly being more melodic.
Jeff got more solo features at our shows...this is always a good/great thing.
Rashawn sounded the best he ever has to me this year.
Dave's voice is the strongest it's been in years. His guitar has been sounding great the last couple of tours.
Fonz's presence keeps getting stronger and the mix is so improved for him.
Carter is ALWAYS excellent.
Buddy is finding his place and fitting in better and better.

They're just killing it.

I agree with everything you wrote but especially this, he's so well connected to every part of his voice right now and more so than I've seen in years. His transitions with going back and forth between chest, head, falsetto was so smooth and controlled, he's singing so bassy without a ton of strain and very accurate. I was basically in awe on Saturday, it's inspiring.

[BruceW]

Originally Posted by crashintonickdm

7/1/08-2018 is 4.0

So it’s LT45. That’s the best show since Roi left.

This.

Best show 2018 onward? Man SPAC N2 2021 has to be up there...I don't have a strong argument against off the top of my head.

[Speilmen230]

I'm partial to DC N2 2019 and Fiddler's N2 2019.

http://dmbalmanac.com/TourShowSet.as...160&where=2019
http://dmbalmanac.com/TourShowSet.as...160&where=2019

[ToySoldier#34]

LT45 doesn't match my preferences as well as Saturday does, obviously the encore is stronger

[Beekman47]

Thought the 2018 MSG shows were some of the best they sounded with that Cortez being a big moment for the band with Buddy. Not sure 2018 MSG sounded anywhere near as good though as SPAC (cue the recency bias).

[karczews41]

Originally Posted by OneSweetMonkey

Peter was around for 2 years. So, yes he was around long enough.

This is 5.0.

No way. Peter's last show was March 23, 1993, which predates every album (Recently and RTT) by a long shot. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't believe he was even on the demo.

[karczews41]

The 2018 MSG shows were up there. 2019 WPB N1 and Des Moines are up there. 2010 Gorge N3 is right up there for me too: http://dmbalmanac.com/TourShowSet.as...110&where=2010.

[Xcacel]

Originally Posted by dontdrink36

Peter wasn't around nearly long enough to be considered a separate era. Cmon man.

This is 4.0

91-98
98-08
08-18
18-?

That’s also my way of dividing the eras.
But I know it is subjective

[DMB1JW]

Originally Posted by Dannyyankou

Virginia Beach 2021 is a dark horse

Virginia Beach 2021 gets my vote. Energy was incredible. Great setlist. Billies opener.

[Perch1019]

Originally Posted by OneSweetMonkey

This is DMB 5.0, at the least.

And SPAC N2 was the best show I've seen in years. Everything about it was on point. I never say this about 5.0 shows... but it's Live Trax worthy.

The band just had an energy about them I haven't seen in a long time. It's hard to describe if your weren't there. The crowd was also on another level. A show that won't be forgotten for a long time for anyone there.

[OneSweetMonkey]

Originally Posted by karczews41

No way. Peter's last show was March 23, 1993, which predates every album (Recently and RTT) by a long shot. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't believe he was even on the demo.

Yes way. Was the band not a band before Remember Two Things was recorded? Was Peter not in the band from 1991 - 1993? Did he not play hundreds of shows with them?

It makes no sense that someone would consider Remember Two Things as the beginning of this band.

[OneSweetMonkey]

Originally Posted by Perch1019

The band just had an energy about them I haven't seen in a long time. It's hard to describe if your weren't there. The crowd was also on another level. A show that won't be forgotten for a long time for anyone there.

Very much this.

[Titotimmy]

While I agree, I think things like “energy” and the crowd into the discussion feeds into the whole recency bias thing. What matters most to me is good songs being played and obviously a lot of that is preference.

I think it tops most 2018/19 shows because all the CT slots that were so heavily allotted were basically swapped out for Busted Stuff tunes.

[karczews41]

Originally Posted by OneSweetMonkey

Yes way. Was the band not a band before Remember Two Things was recorded? Was Peter not in the band from 1991 - 1993? Did he not play hundreds of shows with them?

It makes no sense that someone would consider Remember Two Things as the beginning of this band.

He certainly did not: http://dmbalmanac.com/GuestStats.aspx?gid=101. By your measure, is Warren Haynes a band member? He's guested almost as many shows (http://dmbalmanac.com/GuestStats.aspx?gid=40) as Peter but has been "with" the band over a much broader range of time. Your argument doesn't make sense.

[Tom Brady]

I don’t understand how any show that closes with SMLAM could be considered in this discussion… but to each their own

[grilldanmo]

Originally Posted by OneSweetMonkey

Watchtower is a DMB staple that has been around since the beginning. And it killed at SPAC. I can agree with Time Of The Season, even though that was also great. But Watchtower is a "DMB song". Just like The Maker. (Obviously they're not DMB songs, but those are 2 songs that they have certainly made their own).

They're covers. I know how long they've been around, I'd rather not hear/see them live. Don't care about their status as staples. I'd rather EVERY AAtW get replaced w/ JTR, DT, PM, DS, BS, BT, etc. AAtW doesn't do anything for me, never has...whatever it had I got out of it at SPAC in '96.

It's cool though that you and others enjoy it...obviously.

[grilldanmo]

Originally Posted by Tom Brady

I don’t understand how any show that closes with SMLAM could be considered in this discussion… but to each their own

One or two songs regardless of placement shouldn't kill the quality of a great show. I don't mind Monkey, so it didn't bother me. Two covers did, but not enough to negate that awesome show.

[Titotimmy]

Originally Posted by Tom Brady

I don’t understand how any show that closes with SMLAM could be considered in this discussion… but to each their own

Did you see the main set? Would you rather a steady diet of Bayou, Can’t Stop, and other random CT garbage like in 18-19?

[Perch1019]

Originally Posted by Titotimmy

Did you see the main set? Would you rather a steady diet of Bayou, Can’t Stop, and other random CT garbage like in 18-19?

Exactly. As much as I hated the Shake me closer, it was a lot easier to take after Xmas song and that set instead of hearing a show full of come tomorrow for the umpteenth time.

[Xcacel]

If we put all the preferences above in a Word Cloud, this is what we get
https://images2.imgbox.com/3e/1b/WznQc0dk_o.png

[OneSweetMonkey]

Originally Posted by karczews41

He certainly did not: http://dmbalmanac.com/GuestStats.aspx?gid=101. By your measure, is Warren Haynes a band member? He's guested almost as many shows (http://dmbalmanac.com/GuestStats.aspx?gid=40) as Peter but has been "with" the band over a much broader range of time. Your argument doesn't make sense.

From Peter's page...

"Peter is considered a member of the band on all full-band shows from 8.21.91 to 3.13.93."

Looked for that on Warren's page. Wasn't there.

Also, there's a huge difference between 1179 song appearances (Peter. Because he was a member of the band for almost 2 years) and 87 song appearances (Warren... who was never a member of the band).

So, no. I don't consider Warren a band member. Because he was not a band member, like Peter was.

[skrellner]

SPAC N2 2021 best show of this iteration of the band? No way. I attended and the main set was very solid, but….

A show where a significant (we can argue about how significant) portion of the fan base is going home upset with how the show ended? Can’t be the top for me. Maybe I value the encore more than I should. But going home on a high is very important to me.

The best show would have to have an incredible last 4 or 5 song run.

My personal favorite of the 20 or so I’ve been to in last 3 tours is seen below. Love seeing other people’s opinions. Also kinda hard to pick a show you weren’t at.

http://www.dmbalmanac.com/TourShowSe...160&where=2019

[OneSweetMonkey]

Originally Posted by skrellner

SPAC N2 2021 best show of this iteration of the band? No way. I attended and the main set was very solid, but….

A show where a significant (we can argue about how significant) portion of the fan base is going home upset with how the show ended? Can’t be the top for me. Maybe I value the encore more than I should. But going home on a high is very important to me.

The best show would have to have an incredible last 4 or 5 song run.

My personal favorite of the 20 or so I’ve been to in last 3 tours is seen below. Love seeing other people’s opinions. Also kinda hard to pick a show you weren’t at.

http://www.dmbalmanac.com/TourShowSe...160&where=2019

It wasn’t just the set list. The band sounded great. And the set list was great. One mediocre song to end it doesn’t change that. I honestly mean it when I said that this was the best show I’ve seen in years.


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[crashintonickdm]

Spac isn’t even the best show this year let alone best in this era of DMB

[BruceW]

Originally Posted by skrellner

SPAC N2 2021 best show of this iteration of the band? No way. I attended and the main set was very solid, but….

A show where a significant (we can argue about how significant) portion of the fan base is going home upset with how the show ended? Can’t be the top for me. Maybe I value the encore more than I should. But going home on a high is very important to me.

The best show would have to have an incredible last 4 or 5 song run.

My personal favorite of the 20 or so I’ve been to in last 3 tours is seen below. Love seeing other people’s opinions. Also kinda hard to pick a show you weren’t at.

http://www.dmbalmanac.com/TourShowSe...160&where=2019

Have listened to both. Prefer SPAC N2. This one is definitely top 3 though. It’s very close

[BruceW]

Originally Posted by crashintonickdm

Spac isn’t even the best show this year let alone best in this era of DMB

Ooooh I love this.

Tampa for you?

[crashintonickdm]

Originally Posted by BruceW

Ooooh I love this.

Tampa for you?

I’m not saying spac isn’t good and I’m sure most here will read into it like I am.

Yes, Tampa. That set is very strong for 2021 dmb

[ToySoldier#34]

There's a lot to choose from between Tampa, Deer Creek, Gorge N1, SPAC, many other shows. It's just nice there are a bunch at this level this year.

[crashintonickdm]

Yep, it is refreshing

So much so that I grabbed tix to holmdel. Curious to see how it plays out. Dave usually treats that venue good