The Decision: Boyd Leaving DMB

[LowEnd_Theory]

Originally Posted by hurley711

https://youtu.be/c4lsFL33Q8I

Geez. Apparently this was at an event right before he announced he had arthritis.

Damn... was this resolved over the last couple years?

[ExistenceNow]

Originally Posted by LowEnd_Theory

Damn... was this resolved over the last couple years?

Yea, he had surgery and stopped dropping the bow after that one summer.

[#41Tom]

Originally Posted by MrMojoRisin67

He announced his break, and then they began looking [for violin replacements].

so this basically means he almost certainly didn't get fired, and that it was his decision in the moment.......

[garagebrothers]

Originally Posted by LowEnd_Theory

Damn... was this resolved over the last couple years?

I've gotten arthritis in both hands over the past year and it's brutal, there are days I can't even close them or lift certain things.

[Gene Parmesan]

Originally Posted by #41Tom

so this basically means he almost certainly didn't get fired, and that it was his decision in the moment.......

You sure can extrapolate a lot based on second hand hearsay. I think we can feel confident they are trying out violin players and that's about it.

[dmbolp]

Originally Posted by #41Tom

so this basically means he almost certainly didn't get fired, and that it was his decision in the moment.......

Could just as easily argue the opposite; the fact that auditions began just a few days after the announcement tells me the band was already heading down that path.

[willndmb]

I'm going to trust Robert Randolph and someone connected to Tim and say they are not trying out replacements.

[dmbdrew41]

Originally Posted by willndmb

I'm going to trust Robert Randolph and someone connected to Tim and say they are not trying out replacements.

Well that sucks

[Gene Parmesan]

The same Robert Randolph that acted like he didn't know DMB was playing The Night Before while on his way to the show? Seems like a real straight shooter that's going to give the inside details of another band's long time member's plans.

[DMBCardinal]

Yeah, I believe the poster in the other thread that says the band has auditioned for a replacement.

[TheLastPig]

Originally Posted by willndmb

I'm going to trust Robert Randolph and someone connected to Tim and say they are not trying out replacements.

Where did RR say that they arent trying out replacements? That didnt happen.


And someone directly connected to someone who literally auditioned is more trustworthy than "someone connected to tim"

[Gravedigger789]

Originally Posted by Gene Parmesan

The same Robert Randolph that acted like he didn't know DMB was playing The Night Before while on his way to the show? Seems like a real straight shooter that's going to give the inside details of another band's long time member's plans.

Exactly. But yeah we should totally trust a random person on the forums who claims they're connected w/ RR and a friend of TR...

[#41Tom]

Originally Posted by Gene Parmesan

You sure can extrapolate a lot based on second hand hearsay. I think we can feel confident they are trying out violin players and that's about it.

Hey, this is a discussion board, if I throw out a theory make sure to shoot me down if you disagree, only just with logic, like dmbolp did

Originally Posted by dmbolp

Could just as easily argue the opposite; the fact that auditions began just a few days after the announcement tells me the band was already heading down that path.

I'd say this possibility is much less likely - why wouldn't they audition before a show if there was foreknowledge, instead of possibly floundering (they actually did a great job) at the Superbowl? We all know Dave likes things to be "just right", and they attempted a number of songs which the violin was previously crucial to...

Originally Posted by Gravedigger789

But yeah we should totally trust a random person on the forums who claims they're connected w/ RR and a friend of TR...

The way he's doing it makes it seem distinctly believable. I'd be very surprised if he was making it up. There was also some lad posting his violin videos on here who said he'd heard from management, in about the same time-frame.

[Cptn. Monkeyman]

Yeah, I don't think they're lying. Don't really see the point, they don't gain anything out of it. But just because they heard from management/auditioned doesn't mean for a fact that the band will settle on a replacement. It is a good sign though

[#41Tom]

Originally Posted by Cptn. Monkeyman

Yeah, I don't think they're lying. Don't really see the point, they don't gain anything out of it. But just because they heard from management/auditioned doesn't mean for a fact that the band will settle on a replacement. It is a good sign though

Agreed, I really hope they get someone in

[willndmb]

Originally Posted by TheLastPig

Where did RR say that they arent trying out replacements? That didnt happen.


And someone directly connected to someone who literally auditioned is more trustworthy than "someone connected to tim"

There is a lot of people who know things and talk to people that are not on here or dmbfamily and I trust them more then most of the people here.

Until we have something more solid, i'll trust what I have heard from sources.
Others are clearly free to trust whatever they feel is valid

[billysmart1999]

This is crazy. I feel like there's definitely some tension between Boyd and the band right now

Boyd's the only band member missing from the Live Nation tour promo video...<br>
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<a href="https://www.facebook.com/TheWharfAmphitheater/videos/1757292924336966/" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/TheWharfAmp...7292924336966/</a>

[Dannyyankou]

Originally Posted by billysmart1999

This is crazy. I feel like there's definitely some tension between Boyd and the band right now

Why would he be featured in a tour promo video if he’s not going to be on tour?

[moosicmaniac]

Originally Posted by Dannyyankou

Why would he be featured in a tour promo video if he’s not going to be on tour?

Right, but when the promo went live may give us more insight into when the "decision" was made.

[willndmb]

Originally Posted by moosicmaniac

Right, but when the promo went live may give us more insight into when the "decision" was made.

yes, and all those ads went live 2/2 for the ticket sales day. Of course they were not made last minute so imo it was known he was going to "drop out"

[TheLastPig]

Originally Posted by willndmb

yes, and all those ads went live 2/2 for the ticket sales day. Of course they were not made last minute so imo it was known he was going to "drop out"

Pretty easy to slightly edit a video over a span of 5 days.

[dmbclstj2]

Originally Posted by willndmb

yes, and all those ads went live 2/2 for the ticket sales day. Of course they were not made last minute so imo it was known he was going to "drop out"

No question. They could have saved face by leaving him in the promo videos but the fact they took the time to edit him out leads be to believe this decision was made a while ago and they gave BT the chance to announce it.

[AlexK79]

Originally Posted by dmbclstj2

No question. They could have saved face by leaving him in the promo videos but the fact they took the time to edit him out leads be to believe this decision was made a while ago and they gave BT the chance to announce it.

Anyone with even remedial knowledge of video editing could have edited the video to remove Boyd in an hour or two.

[DerekJTR2]

What's the venn diagram of people who think Boyd not being in the promo is a statement and people who were upset that they announced it after tickets already went on sale? Relax.

[dmbclstj2]

Originally Posted by AlexK79

Anyone with even remedial knowledge of video editing could have edited the video to remove Boyd in an hour or two.

Considering their marketing team/Warehouse is a complete joke and never "on it" I doubt anyone would have scrambled to edit these videos last second.

[20TwoStep]

I do not post much and really try to avoid commenting on topics I am not in a position to understand or judge, but after a conversation with Warehouse I wanted to share.

After Boyd's announcement, listening to the night before show, and with no announcement from the band, I had concerns as to the impact of the tour. I waited a couple of weeks and emailed Warehouse. I inquired about an official announcement, something to give me an idea that with increased ticket prices, investment in travel, that the tour was not going to be a train wreck; the 24 hours from announcement to end of show were rough to observe. I really did not expect a reply, and if so maybe a generic email reply, but instead the email was that they would be calling me, and sure enough I received the call within an hour. I checked both boards and was surprised that no one else had the same opportunity.

I was surprised and impressed to get the call and very much appreciated the ten minute conversation we had that was informative, genuine, and sincere. I was told and will paraphrase that the band stands behind Boyd and his decision, respectfully entrusting him to control the message, they miss him and send unconditional love and support as he navigates through this challenging time, this was unexpected. Acknowledging Boyd's as being an integral part of the band and history; Boyd is irreplaceable. They will not replace him but as is normal for the band through time it is not unlikely that additional special talents may make appearances throughout the tour. I specifically inquired if it would be handled similar to 08' when Jeff cam in quickly after Roi's ATV accident and was told no. That's it & all that I needed to feel confident and not concerned as to what or how the tour will unfold.

I have always considered this band to be my best friend; always there in good times & bad, sharing the best of memories, a soundtrack to my life. I think this is probably true for many devout fans. This friend has done so much for me that I will not become critical at a time of duress for them and have trust that they respect the history with their fans and what carried them to so much success. All things change and evolve, our friends evolve and change, this is much the same. My hope is that speculation ends, criticism stops, negativity wanes and we allow the process to play out and take it as it comes, support our friends when needed most, have faith, love, and trust that this will be yet another great summer tour.

I hope there is some value in what I have shared and if not that is ok to. I can only control my effort to put this out there for others. Be well and see you soon for another great summer night of fun. Cheers.

[ForkInFork]

Originally Posted by 20TwoStep

I do not post much and really try to avoid commenting on topics I am not in a position to understand or judge, but after a conversation with Warehouse I wanted to share.

After Boyd's announcement, listening to the night before show, and with no announcement from the band, I had concerns as to the impact of the tour. I waited a couple of weeks and emailed Warehouse. I inquired about an official announcement, something to give me an idea that with increased ticket prices, investment in travel, that the tour was not going to be a train wreck; the 24 hours from announcement to end of show were rough to observe. I really did not expect a reply, and if so maybe a generic email reply, but instead the email was that they would be calling me, and sure enough I received the call within an hour. I checked both boards and was surprised that no one else had the same opportunity.

I was surprised and impressed to get the call and very much appreciated the ten minute conversation we had that was informative, genuine, and sincere. I was told and will paraphrase that the band stands behind Boyd and his decision, respectfully entrusting him to control the message, they miss him and send unconditional love and support as he navigates through this challenging time, this was unexpected. Acknowledging Boyd's as being an integral part of the band and history; Boyd is irreplaceable. They will not replace him but as is normal for the band through time it is not unlikely that additional special talents may make appearances throughout the tour. I specifically inquired if it would be handled similar to 08' when Jeff cam in quickly after Roi's ATV accident and was told no. That's it & all that I needed to feel confident and not concerned as to what or how the tour will unfold.

I have always considered this band to be my best friend; always there in good times & bad, sharing the best of memories, a soundtrack to my life. I think this is probably true for many devout fans. This friend has done so much for me that I will not become critical at a time of duress for them and have trust that they respect the history with their fans and what carried them to so much success. All things change and evolve, our friends evolve and change, this is much the same. My hope is that speculation ends, criticism stops, negativity wanes and we allow the process to play out and take it as it comes, support our friends when needed most, have faith, love, and trust that this will be yet another great summer tour.

I hope there is some value in what I have shared and if not that is ok to. I can only control my effort to put this out there for others. Be well and see you soon for another great summer night of fun. Cheers.

thanks for sharing, but that is a disappointment to me. If they don't have a violin fill in while Boyd is gone I will probably be ditching a bunch of the shows I was planning to attend. Whereas a talented violin replacement would probably have me adding shows. Bummer to hear they are saying they will not replace him.

[AlexK79]

Originally Posted by ForkInFork

thanks for sharing, but that is a disappointment to me. If they don't have a violin fill in while Boyd is gone I will probably be ditching a bunch of the shows I was planning to attend. Whereas a talented violin replacement would probably have me adding shows. Bummer to hear they are saying they will not replace him.

This post (OP's, not yours) is directly contradicting the person in the 'replacement' thread that stated they are actively auditioning people.

I wonder how much someone from the Warehouse would really know. People that work for the Warehouse are not the same as the band's management. Not saying that this for sure untrue but I don't think we should take this to mean 100% there will be no replacement.

[Cptn. Monkeyman]

Originally Posted by AlexK79

This post (OP's, not yours) is directly contradicting the person in the 'replacement' thread that stated they are actively auditioning people.

I wonder how much someone from the Warehouse would really know. People that work for the Warehouse are not the same as the band's management. Not saying that this for sure untrue but I don't think we should take this to mean 100% there will be no replacement.

The same can be said for the post you're referring to about the auditioning. I assume both parties are truthful (sometimes a flaw of mine, being to trusting) They could have taken a few auditions by request of someone without actually wanting a full on replacement (trying out people for guest spots, or something along those lines)

[TheLastPig]

Originally Posted by AlexK79

This post (OP's, not yours) is directly contradicting the person in the 'replacement' thread that stated they are actively auditioning people.

I wonder how much someone from the Warehouse would really know. People that work for the Warehouse are not the same as the band's management. Not saying that this for sure untrue but I don't think we should take this to mean 100% there will be no replacement.

Yeah I read his statement as they arent looking for someone to step in and play his parts, but rather someone to step in and do something different. So I think it makes sense that both reports we have about names out there are multi-instrumentalists.

Regardless, its still slightly discouraging because it lends to the idea there may not be a fill in for all shows or a true violin on stage for all songs.. but if its a mash of violin and mandolin or violin and slide guitar or something of that ilk I think it will be okay.