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Old 02-23-2019, 05:01 AM   #1
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LN & TM: “Platinum” tickets justified or not?

If appropriate why?
If not, is it time to protest and if so how?
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    Re: LN & TM: “Platinum” tickets justified or not?

    It's a for-profit business, concert tickets aren't a life-sustaining item. Sure, I'd like them to be cheaper like everyone else, but what's the argument for that from the business/industry perspective? Tickets are still selling.
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    Re: LN & TM: “Platinum” tickets justified or not?

    From a business standpoint, obviously it makes sense and is a good move since people are buying the platinum tickets.

    From a moral and ethical standpoint, it’s bullshit. Fuck them for screwing true fans the chance at buying tickets at face value.
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    Re: LN & TM: “Platinum” tickets justified or not?

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    If appropriate why?
    If not, is it time to protest and if so how?
    If you feel outraged then do something

    Ppl have flooded the bands social media w posts about it. There has been chatter of writing emails to management as well as bringing signs into the shows to make sure Dave is aware since he is vocal about things he doesn’t like.

    All of that can be found in numerous threads here if you want to read more

    I doubt anything changes tho. This is the way the industry as a whole is moving. Tiered pricing. The days of the 5th row being the same price as the 30th Row are coming to an end
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    Re: LN & TM: “Platinum” tickets justified or not?

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    It's a for-profit business, concert tickets aren't a life-sustaining item. Sure, I'd like them to be cheaper like everyone else, but what's the argument for that from the business/industry perspective? Tickets are still selling.
    I agree with this premise... however, shouldn't we then be able to sell our tickets at a profit? Why are we held to a criminal standard should we be caught selling tickets at a higher cost then when we purchased them?
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    Re: LN & TM: “Platinum” tickets justified or not?

    Lol it’s not unethical or immoral. Tickets are a luxury item. They should be priced at what people are willing to pay. Anything else is unamerican honestly.

    I’ve said it before but if I owned Ticketmaster I’d price like this: every ticket in the venue would be priced at 10K a piece the first day. Every day following, the tickets would get cheaper and cheaper until someone bought them. On the day of the show they would be free.

    That way every ticket is sold exactly for the price that someone was willing to pay. Scalpers would be cut out completely overnight.
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    Old 02-23-2019, 06:17 AM   #7
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    Re: LN & TM: “Platinum” tickets justified or not?

    That's right. If corporations are people too, then they should be arrested for ticket scalping!
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    Old 02-23-2019, 06:25 AM   #8
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    Re: LN & TM: “Platinum” tickets justified or not?

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    I agree with this premise... however, shouldn't we then be able to sell our tickets at a profit? Why are we held to a criminal standard should we be caught selling tickets at a higher cost then when we purchased them?
    Makes a good point here.....
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    Old 02-23-2019, 06:33 AM   #9
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    Re: LN & TM: “Platinum” tickets justified or not?

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    I agree with this premise... however, shouldn't we then be able to sell our tickets at a profit? Why are we held to a criminal standard should we be caught selling tickets at a higher cost then when we purchased them?

    I haven't really looked into it cause im not that guy, but cant you pretty much do this thru the LN verified resale? Are there restrictions as to what you can sell your tickets for? I mean aside from WH tickets, we can sell them at higher cost without recourse (except ridicule from fans)...right?



    Serious question, is it illegal for me to sell a pair of $115 tickets on stubhub for $600 a piece?
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    Old 02-23-2019, 06:44 AM   #10
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    Serious question, is it illegal for me to sell a pair of $115 tickets on stubhub for $600 a piece?
    No. Some states have scalping laws stating you can sell within a certain distance proximity of the venue, or over a certain markup.

    Online you can sell non-WH tickets in complete anonymity thru Stubhub and TM Verified Resale.
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    Old 02-23-2019, 06:50 AM   #11
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    Re: LN & TM: “Platinum” tickets justified or not?

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    From a business standpoint, obviously it makes sense and is a good move since people are buying the platinum tickets.

    From a moral and ethical standpoint, it’s bullshit. Fuck them for screwing true fans the chance at buying tickets at face value.
    Platinum pricing is the face value of those tickets.

    Ticketmaster is not "scalping" tickets. They are the initial seller, setting the initial price (face value) of the tickets in accordance with the band.


    Basically, the band just raised the prices on a bunch of seats. That's it. It's fine to not like that, but that's all it is.
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    Re: LN & TM: “Platinum” tickets justified or not?

    If appropriate why? People buy them.
    If not, is it time to protest and if so how? Don't buy them.

    I won't pay above face value for a ticket, I will sit on the lawn before I pay above face, Stubhub can be used to get below face value tickets the day of the show. I've stopped chasing good seats years ago, just not worth the effort and frustration.
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    Old 02-23-2019, 07:03 AM   #13
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    Re: LN & TM: “Platinum” tickets justified or not?

    Another question - I assume the face value printed on platinum tickets is the price they are sold for ($259, $360, $605, etc)?
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    Re: LN & TM: “Platinum” tickets justified or not?

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    Another question - I assume the face value printed on platinum tickets is the price they are sold for ($259, $360, $605, etc)?

    This is correct.
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    Old 02-23-2019, 07:12 AM   #15
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    Re: LN & TM: “Platinum” tickets justified or not?

    The shadiness doesn’t end with the premium pricing, but with the monopoly
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    Re: LN & TM: “Platinum” tickets justified or not?

    Just set all the seats in one area as the same price. I see it as weird as hell that I can get a ticket for $115 and the person in the row behind me paid $325.

    If you want more money, then put all lowers at $175 or $185 or something. Don't just take THE BEST SEATS and put them $200+ more than anything around them.
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    Just set all the seats in one area as the same price. I see it as weird as hell that I can get a ticket for $115 and the person in the row behind me paid $325.

    If you want more money, then put all lowers at $175 or $185 or something. Don't just take THE BEST SEATS and put them $200+ more than anything around them.

    How would that be better for us? I don't buy Platinum tickets. I'm fine sitting in the $115 seats and certainly don't want to pay $185 for them just so the dumb asses willing to pay exorbitant Platinum pricing don't have to do that.
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    Old 02-23-2019, 07:57 AM   #18
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    Re: LN & TM: “Platinum” tickets justified or not?

    Yo. Ticketmaster and LiveNation have us by the balls and can really do whatever the fuck they want. One of the things that made DMB so great is that their ticket prices stayed consistently low throughout the years. Even when ticket scalping sites like Stubhub really blew up in the early 2010's, people weren't selling these tickets for outrageous prices. For instance, I got a pit ticket for N2 of Alpine 2010 off SH for $140. Just checking SH now, the lowest priced pit ticket for N2 today is $326.

    What seemed to have happened is TM/LM adopted a Platinum ticket program and pretty much controlled the narrative from there. They knew that the super rich/nut job fans would pay several hundred dollars for a seat up close no matter what. So, are those seats actually worth that much? Just because a select few are willing (stupid) enough to pay it? It is largely a slap in the face to dedicated fans of the band who may not have the means to shell out several hundred dollars for a good seat.
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    Yo. Ticketmaster and LiveNation have us by the balls and can really do whatever the fuck they want. One of the things that made DMB so great is that their ticket prices stayed consistently low throughout the years. Even when ticket scalping sites like Stubhub really blew up in the early 2010's, people weren't selling these tickets for outrageous prices. For instance, I got a pit ticket for N2 of Alpine 2010 off SH for $140. Just checking SH now, the lowest priced pit ticket for N2 today is $326.

    What seemed to have happened is TM/LM adopted a Platinum ticket program and pretty much controlled the narrative from there. They knew that the super rich/nut job fans would pay several hundred dollars for a seat up close no matter what. So, are those seats actually worth that much? Just because a select few are willing (stupid) enough to pay it? It is largely a slap in the face to dedicated fans of the band who may not have the means to shell out several hundred dollars for a good seat.
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    Who the hell pays 300+ dollars a ticket for dmb in 2019?
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    Who the hell pays 300+ dollars a ticket for dmb in 2019?
    The Family? I will say a paid for a premium package this tour but at least it's way more than just a ticket.

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    Who the hell pays 300+ dollars a ticket for dmb in 2019?
    I just don't have time like I did a few years ago to deal with drops all day, so I'm fine cutting a show or two and just knowing I have decent seats. I've been lucky and gotten WH premium for the last few though.
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    Yea, at least with WH Premium you can recoup some costs by selling the swag. At the very least, a trash Methane poster can get you $50 back. A nice Sperry or Eads and you could even get your net cost down below a normal priced ticket if you're willing to part with it.



    I would never buy a Platinum ticket.
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    Lol at the idea of bringing signs about ticket prices to shows.
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    Lol at the idea of bringing signs about ticket prices to shows.

    Yea, if anything will make Dave want to do more Platinum pricing.
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    Carter throw drumstick here if against platinum pricing
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    They should implement platinum sticking. People venmo money and the section that gives the most gets the sticks thrown at them.
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    Or platinum song of the night by request!
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    The Family? I will say a paid for a premium package this tour but at least it's way more than just a ticket.

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    Dont you get more for the platinum ticket as well?

    I'm surprised there is so much butthurt on the site about the pricing. DMB has been under pricing their shows forever. They are still incorrectly priced. Pit and lowers provide a much different experience than uppers. Side tickets provide a much different experience than center. The prices should reflect that. There should be a lot more tiers and each should start more expensive than they are currently.

    They should price like sporting events. Floor seats are more expensive than others and certain games are more expensive than others. Wanna see Golden State or the Lakers you pay way more than if the Hawks are in town. DMB has started doing this with shows like Pelham starting at $95 for lowers. SPAC, Deer Creek, Alpine etc should start at a higher price point. I think like $250 pit/centered lowers, $175 side lowers. $125 uppers and $70 for lawn. If they dont sell at that price for 30 days bump them down 10% until they sell.

    Platinum/premium is way out of my range. I'd rather sit in the uppers at 3-4 shows than first 10 rows at 1 show.
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    Dont you get more for the platinum ticket as well?

    I'm surprised there is so much butthurt on the site about the pricing. DMB has been under pricing their shows forever.
    If by more you mean more fees, then yes

    And I think they've exceeded necessary pricing with the new Stubhub VIP for all shows, and the attached
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