Dave Matthews Band "Drive-In" - Every Wednesday At 8!

[grilldanmo]

Originally Posted by Aforauer

Makes sense! Part of my optimism comes from being sick of it all. If this vaccine comes out in October or November like they say it might, I’d like to think it won’t take 6 months to produce sufficient numbers of doses if effective, but I’m not a doctor or expert! Obviously not something to be rushed.

Sadly you have to take into account that there are millions of people still calling COVID-19 a hoax and tons of other people saying they WON'T vaccinate against this "hoax"...some even doing so to avoid being chipped.

The other problem is that we're still figuring out what exposure really means. There's the obvious COVID-19 sicknesses (or lack thereof for the lucky), but we're finding out DAILY how it affects co-morbidities AND that it has some long-term effects that vary greatly from patient to patient (as well as the exposed).

There's still a ton of work to be done related to this virus that the scientists and doctors need to do, be trusted to do, and to be shared to the public.

[grilldanmo]

Originally Posted by BruceW

There is nothing wrong with that. I never said there was.

Nothing wrong at all. I was genuinely curious as I haven't stayed on top of vaccine news.

Unfortunately most of the vaccine news is far off the mark.

There's a process that's not been done in under several years to date. The largest commodity needed for safe and accurate testing of vaccines is time. That's for development, testing (this includes efficacy and side-effects, the latter requiring months to years alone), manufacture, dissemination, tracking of inoculation, and continued study of long term side-effects.

Rushing any or skipping any of these steps presents a very real danger to the health and welfare of the population at large. Right now millions of our fellow citizens are vocally NOT on board with taking care of each other. So, you have to trust the people making the regulations, the folks running the venues, and your fellow concert goers. Right now two of groups have not earned my trust.

[spiza]

Originally Posted by ToySoldier#34

Was Central Park a decent DMB show? Was Listener Supported?


It's just absurd to say Jimi Thing has no place in a DMB show, I don't even like Jimi Thing and I really don't like the never ending covers after it, have said they should end it with WWBOM multiple times. Jimi Thing whether you love it or hate it is a DMB staple and always has been, shows aren't make or break because of it.

Central Park could of had a better set list comparing it to other 2003 shows and Listener Supported really? Tons of better 1999 shows to choose from. Substitute The Dreaming Tree or Cry Freedom any day over Jimi thing and the show is a million times better. It is okay to disagree with someone i hope you enjoy your shows with Jimi thing, i will go get a beer take a pee or just sit back and relax and smoke my mind and feel better for a small time. Stay safe

[ToySoldier#34]

Ants Marching has no place at a DMB show, there's other songs I'd rather get

[grilldanmo]

Complaining about Jimi Thing when we regularly get ED and SU songs is mind boggling to me...

[TheStone91]

Originally Posted by spiza

Sledgehammer and Jimi thing have no place at Spac, the fact he played Sledgehammer over best of whats around was a slap in the face. Terrible Spac weekend. Night 2 was mailed in they were on a boat all day on lake George not caring about the nights show. I remember seeing stefans social media post and instantly saying to my friend yup tonight is gonna blow not getting any surprises. I still love Spac and will never miss a show there but it just seems they are going through the motions at this point.

Sorry, but how do you know they were on a boat “all day” and didn’t care about the show that night, based off of a social media post? Even if they truly were, that doesn’t mean the show is going to be mailed in. Haha

[BruceW]

Originally Posted by spiza

Central Park could of had a better set list comparing it to other 2003 shows and Listener Supported really? Tons of better 1999 shows to choose from. Substitute The Dreaming Tree or Cry Freedom any day over Jimi thing and the show is a million times better. It is okay to disagree with someone i hope you enjoy your shows with Jimi thing, i will go get a beer take a pee or just sit back and relax and smoke my mind and feel better for a small time. Stay safe

What does "could of" mean?

[Whiteyxc514]

Originally Posted by spiza

Sledgehammer and Jimi thing have no place at Spac, the fact he played Sledgehammer over best of whats around was a slap in the face. Terrible Spac weekend. Night 2 was mailed in they were on a boat all day on lake George not caring about the nights show. I remember seeing stefans social media post and instantly saying to my friend yup tonight is gonna blow not getting any surprises. I still love Spac and will never miss a show there but it just seems they are going through the motions at this point.

It certainly wasn’t the best N2 ever but I wouldn’t say the inclusion of songs like lover lay down, pig, say goodbye, grace is gone, JTR, #40 and Blue Water teases is mailing it in. I can think far worse set list decisions Dave could have made.

[spiza]

Originally Posted by BruceW

What does "could of" mean?

Not played at Central Park that IMO would of made the show more epic.
The Stone
Lie in Our Graves
The Last Stop
Minarets
Halloween
The Dreaming Tree
Pig

[BruceW]

Originally Posted by spiza

Not played at Central Park that IMO would of made the show more epic.
The Stone
Lie in Our Graves
The Last Stop
Minarets
Halloween
The Dreaming Tree
Pig

What does “would of” mean?

[prdstmnky36]

Should of seen that coming

[BruceW]

[Fpuonpko]

Does anyone have the download yet? I dont like using youtube if i dont have to lol

[spiza]

Originally Posted by BruceW

What does “would of” mean?

Correcting someones grammar on a message board you must be fun at a party.

[ToySoldier#34]

I'm bummed out I didn't get to party with Bruce at the Gorge so ...

[BruceW]

Originally Posted by spiza

Correcting someones grammar on a message board you must be fun at a party.

If you don’t know it’s not “could of” or “would of”, then idk what to tell ya

[BruceW]

Originally Posted by ToySoldier#34

I'm bummed out I didn't get to party with Bruce at the Gorge so ...

Amen. 2021 maybe/hopefully, and if not, 2022

[Cptn. Monkeyman]

Originally Posted by BruceW

If you don’t know it’s not “could of” or “would of”, then idk what to tell ya

It’s a really easy and common mistake because the contractions “would’ve”, “could’ve” and “should’ve” when spoken sound just like “would of”, “could of”, etc.

This is how the Mandela effect theory started. People thought it was Sex IN the City instead of Sex and the City, because it sounds like Sex ‘N the City. Same with Interview with A Vampire, sounds like you’re saying Interview with THE Vampire.

Now, as far as the Bernstein Bears go... I got no answers for that anomaly.

[Cptn. Monkeyman]

We’re already starting to figure out how to do sporting events and some other live acts in September 2020. I have no doubt, things will not be back to normal by next summer, if ever. But I think they will find a way to make live events a possibility in the next year. There will surely be smaller capacities and other rules in place, but people already have their tickets, so that will be interesting.

[YankeesDMB41]

I don't see how 20,000 seat amphitheaters could possibly have concerts in 2021. They'd have to come up with a pretty creative plan for DMB to tour next summer.

[grilldanmo]

Makes me wonder if they might shift shows from something like Mo Sun BACK to Hartford, but only let 10K or less in, distance the seating, no pit/rail, masks, etc.

[BruceW]

Originally Posted by Cptn. Monkeyman

It’s a really easy and common mistake because the contractions “would’ve”, “could’ve” and “should’ve” when spoken sound just like “would of”, “could of”, etc.

This is how the Mandela effect theory started. People thought it was Sex IN the City instead of Sex and the City, because it sounds like Sex ‘N the City. Same with Interview with A Vampire, sounds like you’re saying Interview with THE Vampire.

Now, as far as the Bernstein Bears go... I got no answers for that anomaly.

Oh trust me I’m aware what they sound like. Nevertheless.....


I was just giving them a hard time anyways. It was probably a little rude so I’ll apologize for that

[Whiteyxc514]

Originally Posted by Cptn. Monkeyman

We’re already starting to figure out how to do sporting events and some other live acts in September 2020. I have no doubt, things will not be back to normal by next summer, if ever. But I think they will find a way to make live events a possibility in the next year. There will surely be smaller capacities and other rules in place, but people already have their tickets, so that will be interesting.

I don't know if it's possible logistically....but, I wonder if football/baseball stadiums become more common for concerts in 2021.

There's a pretty small list of artists that can routinely sell out 70,000-seat Lucas Oil Stadium, for instance, but what if instead of two nights of 20,000 people at Deer Creek, we get two or three nights of 20,000 per night at Lucas Oil?

Again, not sure if it's feasible or makes sense for bands/venues/LiveNation financially, but as we're seeing football start to come back with limited fans, I am wondering if it's a possibility.

[prdstmnky36]

Even the NFL model isn't exactly working though, and there are still a bunch of stadiums that wont be allowing any fans in attendance this year.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/t...chiefs-opener/

Its a good thought, and probably a more likely scenario than an amphitheater as far as legit spacing goes, but it just seems like a stretch at this point (especially financially at a stadium). Im sure they could raise ticket prices 5x and make up the financials but is there really a demand for something like that?

[Cptn. Monkeyman]

Originally Posted by YankeesDMB41

I don't see how 20,000 seat amphitheaters could possibly have concerts in 2021. They'd have to come up with a pretty creative plan for DMB to tour next summer.

Like grill said, limited capacity, no pit, segregated lawn areas, require masks. I think that honestly will be what concerts look like going forward for a while. You’d be talking probably 5,000 people or less at most venues unless you do stadiums, like whitey said.

And it’s not just DMB that will be needing to tour next summer. Tons of acts and the venues as well are dependent upon it to happen, so I’m sure there will be enough of a push to get live events back.

[Cptn. Monkeyman]

Originally Posted by prdstmnky36

Even the NFL model isn't exactly working though, and there are still a bunch of stadiums that wont be allowing any fans in attendance this year.

Yeah, it’s dependent upon the local government. And the same will be said for concerts next year I’d imagine. I highly doubt DMB would sign off on a tour if it was still controversial.

[prdstmnky36]

It is still going to cost roughly the same amount to put on the concert though, right? Sure, less people in attendance means you can have less employees working but is it really that big of a cut into whatever that magic number is?

For the sake of discussion, if they are only able to have 5,000 people at an amphitheater how much will they have to raise those ticket prices to make it feasible? 2x / 3x / 5x?

[lilant420]

Your best bet of getting any kind of concert next year is at stadiums only. And don’t even hold your breath on that.

[Bmwm3oz]

I’ve got a thousand dollars held up at TM for Gorge tickets next year. Given the information we know now, and what we’ll learn as we head into 2021, I wonder if they open another period of refunds.

I should’ve taken the refund earlier but I have pits and premier camping... didn’t want to give that up. At this point though, I don’t care anymore.

[YankeesDMB41]

Originally Posted by lilant420

Your best bet of getting any kind of concert next year is at stadiums only. And don’t even hold your breath on that.

This is how I feel. I would be absolutely shocked if DMB played at SPAC this summer.