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Originally Posted by Mountains#41
Hmmm. I never looked at it that way. I suppose in the DMB community there are so few tapers it's easier to ask? and when there were a handful more in the prime years, we have no idea what their wishes might have been.
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I suppose this is a pretty multi-level scenario. I immediately think of less than immediately recent audience pulls where the taper explicitly states to not alter their efforts. I haven't seen this called out as much nowadays but have seen it. A lot of effort and money can go in to taping and I certainly do not fault any tapers efforts to keep that finished product intact, a labor of love perhaps but still labor.
I agree it seems the total number of tapes we get these days has lessened but would those even be the ones that would get a touching up?
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Originally Posted by Mountains#41
I know guys like Charlie Miller in the Dead and Phish community remaster and make matrix like tapes all the time. Like that's what he's known for much like Xcacel and dmbjamie here. I have no idea if he gets permission to this. I just assumed in that community of all places tapers would certainly be more protective of what they put out.
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The Dead is definitely a different animal, with soundboards available across their existence and Phish stopped allowing patches quite some time ago. The evolution of the taping community of each artist has been different, especially DMB post-'95.
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Originally Posted by Mountains#41
He always gives credit where it's due in his remasters of course. But GD had dozens of sources and tapes for some shows, whereas we're lucky to get 1 or 2 most of the time which makes it much easier to ask permission. And with DMB it's usually 1 of 3 or 4 people these days...
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I don't think it improper to ask these days, assuming they don't have something stated explicitly with their files.
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Originally Posted by Mountains#41
As for the lossy format, ya. If there is a Flac file and an Mp3 file available on mega.nz or something. I don't think that breaks the code of trading lossy formats still. Now, if people started emailing those mp3s back and forth or torrenting the files, that would be an issue. But we seem to have moved past those days with cloud servers. Like 1000 people could go download an mp3 right now in mega, and it will not lose any quality.
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That totally breaks the code. If you have a lossless show that states do not convert to MP3, one... you could just not but as time moved on and music players/consumption changed most text files added only convert to lossy for personal enjoyment, do not trade those files. CDs mostly had a print-out of the text file stating the same or a post-it note. It's not the sharing of the files that is degrading the quality, these aren't analog tapes but just the MP3 in general is the issue regardless of where it comes from.
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Originally Posted by Mountains#41
Also, how would it dilute the trading pool? The original tape would still be there.
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The files being traded without text files noting it is in fact different than the original source. Less an issue as we are not trading CDs much these days but that is my frame of reference.