No more BWATGGK vinyl?

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by thehoss

since im a dm for my local pepsi distributor, and have gone on about 25,000 dollars worth of vacations and trips in the last calender year, all tax-free, and make a lot of money, can anyone tell me if they see any FTWII single records around anymore?

I'll sell you mine for $1,000 moneybags.

[bacardibat23]

Originally Posted by thehoss

since im a dm for my local pepsi distributor, and have gone on about 25,000 dollars worth of vacations and trips in the last calender year, all tax-free, and make a lot of money, can anyone tell me if they see any FTWII single records around anymore?

Since you got it so good why dont you have dave press one for you in person...Will work for food..

[Millstone]

Originally Posted by thehoss

since im a dm for my local pepsi distributor, and have gone on about 25,000 dollars worth of vacations and trips in the last calender year, all tax-free, and make a lot of money, can anyone tell me if they see any FTWII single records around anymore?

Can I get 25,000 dollars worth of vacations and trips in the next calendar year, all tax-free, and make a lot of money?

[TSlick7]

Originally Posted by thehoss

since im a dm for my local pepsi distributor, and have gone on about 25,000 dollars worth of vacations and trips in the last calender year, all tax-free, and make a lot of money, can anyone tell me if they see any FTWII single records around anymore?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Dave+Matthews+B...Way+It+Is+eBay

[jeff edwards]

Originally Posted by Jordan#41

I wouldn't expect a release such as this to be worth a cent as of right now but somewhere down the road you never know...

[jsimon8]

hmm, kind of makes me wish I had kept mine in perfect condition, although that would mean I have not been listening to it constantly sooooo nevermind

[jeff edwards]

I bought the vinyl and the box set. Listen to the box set, kept the vinyl sealed.
According to the promoter, the first batch of vinyls were labeled incorrectly. Side a sticker on b and vice versa.
So who knows 15 years from now, it could be worth something. Either way its a fantastic piece of work, I still listen to it 4-5 times a week.

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by jeff edwards

I bought the vinyl and the box set. Listen to the box set, kept the vinyl sealed.
According to the promoter, the first batch of vinyls were labeled incorrectly. Side a sticker on b and vice versa.
So who knows 15 years from now, it could be worth something. Either way its a fantastic piece of work, I still listen to it 4-5 times a week.

That's a shame you kept the vinyl sealed, it's the best sounding version of Big Whiskey we have. On Why I Am the CD has barely 5dB of dynamic range, the vinyl has almost 12dB. The vinyl isn't a victim of the loudness war as painfully as the CD is.

There's probably 5,000 mislabelled vinyl records of Big Whiskey, it's highly unlikely it will ever be worth a lot of money. (It's side's b and c that are backwards)

[rickyh24]

I would gladly exchange my mislabeled one in for one that is correctly labeled.

[antsman41]

I have the vinyl but no means to rip it...

is there a vinyl rip out there...

[Millstone]

Originally Posted by rickyh24

I would gladly exchange my mislabeled one in for one that is correctly labeled.

I've tried that, they just keep sending you out mislabelled ones. Without asking for the old ones back. Maybe now it's different.

The other problem is that off-centring of side C or D that is in all the pressings.

[rickyh24]

Originally Posted by Millstone

I've tried that, they just keep sending you out mislabelled ones.

sounds about right

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by antsman41

I have the vinyl but no means to rip it...

is there a vinyl rip out there...

There's a 16-bit/44.1kHz vinyl rip on Demonoid using a VPI Scout - highly recommend finding that one. There's a 24/48 on there too but the equipment wasn't as good and neither were the ripping levels resulting in clipping and less dynamic range.

[antsman41]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

There's a 16-bit/44.1kHz vinyl rip on Demonoid using a VPI Scout - highly recommend finding that one. There's a 24/48 on there too but the equipment wasn't as good and neither were the ripping levels resulting in clipping and less dynamic range.

sweet, ill hit that up when I'm home...

[thehoss]

i was making fun of the douche that was spitting out his life at you guys, FTW.

[dythuger]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

Yeah, no point, after all why would you want a version mastered from a 24-bit source with no clipping and substantially less compression and brickwalling than the CD?

I guess if you had shit stereo systems all around and wouldn't notice the difference?

There's a big reason to own this album on vinyl, it's sonically superior to the CD. Perhaps pictures will explain it better:

Here is a look at "Why I Am" ripped bit-for-bit from the CD:

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/4...mparison50.png

Clipping is hidden in this picture so you can see the waveform better. The top half represents the top 10 decibels of dynamic range, there should only be peaks in here yet this has peaks nowhere to be seen, almost the entire song floats along with 1~2dB of dynamic range tops. The bottom half shows the waveform, look how flat it is all squeezed into the top, no life.

Here is a look at "Why I Am" ripped from vinyl to PCM on a high-end turntable system:

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/139...mparison50.png

Ahh! That's better. In the top half you can see the top 10dB reserved for peaks of the music, that's what gives the music its dynamic, its life. In the bottom half you can see the waveform isn't flat, but rather is spikey...which means the music has life.

So, there is VERY good reason to own this album on vinyl.

[jayman414]

the album sounds great on vinyl I really enjoy it

[JacobLovesYou]

i have the super deluxe, two vinyls (one opened, one not), and the FTWII single

[rwwest7]

Just picked up the vinyl at Best Buy for $13. Now I just need a record player!

[DJGeneral]

Originally Posted by JacobLovesYou

i have the super deluxe, two vinyls (one opened, one not), and the FTWII single

I have Super Deluxe
Two Vinyls, 1 misprint, 1 regular both unopened
FTWII single
CD/DVD album
iTunes pass
Europe Album

[JacobLovesYou]

Originally Posted by DJGeneral

I have Super Deluxe
Two Vinyls, 1 misprint, 1 regular both unopened
FTWII single
CD/DVD album
iTunes pass
Europe Album

europe album, nice!!

i'll pick up the CD on its own someday just to complete the collection more properly for the regular versions of albums.

i know that my opened version of BWGK is mislabled, how do i know if my unopened one is?

[thestand]

Yeah, this whole keeping vinyl sealed is really weird to me. It's never going to be a collector's item, because it's not a limited print. Does this come from what people see the BTCS vinyl going for? Because otherwise, I can't really see it. In the same way that albums from the 70s have depreciated into dollar-bin fodder, we're entering a period of vinyl where you can see how the same thing will happen. I'd be shocked if you can't get BTCS for 5 dollars in a decade or so, because of how many were pressed and are in circulation.

What will be interesting to see is the quality of the records when they start popping up in used bins. A lot of people have bought their first turntables in the past few years, so it'll be interesting to see how well the albums were kept/how degraded the grooves are from the tracking force not being set up correctly.

[JacobLovesYou]

i kept one of my BWGK vinyls in the plastic wrapping so that it would be stay nice. i'll listen to my other one always knowing that i have a mint condition one for the future.

[dobyblue]

All of my new LP's will always be in mint condition because I look after them and keep them in good outer sleeves as well (www.sleevetown.com) so I'll always be able to list both the jacket and vinyl in near mint condition should I even choose to sell.

IMO MINT is only for unplayed.

[granny_dmb41]

Originally Posted by DJGeneral

I have Super Deluxe
Two Vinyls, 1 misprint, 1 regular both unopened
FTWII single
CD/DVD album
iTunes pass
Europe Album

Same here, minus the iTunes pass.

[dobyblue]

GOOD NEWS! I just got another copy of BWGK from Amazon.com and it plays dead centre on SIDE D and has no labelling issues.
Beauty!

The matrices are the same (catalogue # from the barcode along with SA [Side A], etc.) except the new pressing has RE-3 after the catalogue # and does NOT have the STERLING stamp on it or the RJ (Ray Janos) initials.

Anyway, I'm very happy to have a perfect copy of this now.

[crashing4u02]

For those of you still looking for BW in vinyl, Best Buy has them in stock in their store. I was at Findlay, Ohio Best Buy yesterday and they had four in stock for $14.99.

If you can't find it at your local Best Buy, contact the Findlay, Ohio Best Buy. They'll ship it to you (for an extra shipping fee, of course).

[amirightsideup]

Originally Posted by crashing4u02

For those of you still looking for BW in vinyl, Best Buy has them in stock in their store. I was at Findlay, Ohio Best Buy yesterday and they had four in stock for $14.99.

If you can't find it at your local Best Buy, contact the Findlay, Ohio Best Buy. They'll ship it to you (for an extra shipping fee, of course).

just got one today from best buy! didn't go there looking for it, but came upon it and had to buy it

[TempHelpNeeded]

Originally Posted by DJGeneral

I have Super Deluxe
Two Vinyls, 1 misprint, 1 regular both unopened
FTWII single
CD/DVD album
iTunes pass
Europe Album

I have a life.



I kid. I hart the Dave too!

[DaveHead36]

My only gripe about vinyl these days are the prices. It seems to be so inconsistent. I love that I can get loads of Jean Luc-Ponty and Genesis for between $1-3. But in the same breathe cringe when they sell Rubber Soul for $75. I know it's all supply and demand and what with having the Beatles name on it makes it more expensive, but still... Lots of great jazz albums are this way too.

I guess I shouldn't complain... for every $40 I spend on a Coltrane album, I'm getting James Taylor for $2.