***Official Deer Creek 2023***

[btpeters]

Not much here from Walmart in Arkansas. But I thought I'd run it through anyway. They've only played here 4 times.

Venue Stats: Walmart Arkansas Music Pavilion

14 Never Played Before: Bismarck, Walk Around the Moon, Madman's Eyes, Virginia In The Rain, The Space Between, All You Wanted Was Tomorrow, Break Free, Brick House (partial), The Only Thing, Grey Street, monsters, Stay or Leave, You Might Die Trying, Something to Tell My Baby

0 Liberation (almanac rules): N/A

3 Tour Debuts: What Would You Say, The Only Thing, Something To Tell My Baby

3 Songs Played Last time in Walmart (2021): Ants Marching, PNP>Rapunzel, When The World Ends

1st since 2015 - Jimi Thing

1st since 2018 - Satellite

1st Bismarck opener
set You Might Die Trying closer
1st Ants Marching show closer

2nd ever: When The World Ends, PNP>Rapunzel, Jimi Thing, Ants Marching
3rd ever: Satellite, What Would You Say

Noteworthy
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[BigWhiskey1855]

Originally Posted by btpeters

Hola Creek! Once again, this thread will be home to my "Venue Stats" posts I like to do every year. And since I've had many people PM me or tell me at a show that they enjoy them...I'll go ahead and continue. Sorry for the late start, its been a very busy time for me (and still is ), plus this tour has me thinking this isn't gonna yield interesting results...but let's see shall we?



Without further adieu, lets have a look at...



Venue Stats: Woodlands



8 Never Played Before: It Could Happen, Brick House (partial), Virginia In The Rain, Monsters, After Everything, All You Wanted Was Tomorrow, Looking For A Vein, First Call



1 Song Debut: After Everything



0 Liberation (almanac rules): N/A



2 Tour Debuts: Don't Drink The Water, Dancing Nancies



7 Songs Played Last time in Woodlands (2022): Break Free, Dancing Nancies, Grey Street, Jimi Thing, Madman's Eyes, Warehouse, When The World Ends



1st since 2016 - Bismarck, Stay or Leave



1st since 2018 - #41, Don't Drink the Water, PNP>Rapunzel, You and Me



1st Bismarck opener

1st Warehouse set closer

3rd Grey Street show closer (last 2018)



2nd ever: Bismarck, Madman's Eyes, Break Free

3rd ever: N/A



Noteworthy

-3 straight years of Dancing Nancies and Warehouse

-Busted Stuff was played here in 2000 & 2002. Guess you neede to be there then.

Glad to have these back. They are a lot of fun on the road to DC!

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[btpeters]

Jumpin onward to Riverbend. There just aren't enough shows at some places to score them effectively yet. Riverbend was well received and one of the best of the tour. And...yeah. Solid set writing. Even though there are 5 repeats from 2021...3 of them I don't think many mind at all and 1 is a new album song.

Venue Stats: Riverbend

5 Never Played Before: Madman's Eyes, All You Wanted Was Tomorrow, It Could Happen, Brick House (partial), Looking For A Vein

0 Liberation (almanac rules): N/A

1 Tour Debut: Gravedigger

5 Songs Played Last time in Riverbend (2021): Crush, Walk Around The Moon, Warehouse, You & Me, You Never Know

1st since 2008 - Water Into Wine

1st since 2014 - So Much To Say, So Right

1st since 2015 - Gravedigger

1st since 2016 - Anyone Seen The Bridge, Bismarck, Break Free, Too Much

1st since 2018 - Jimi Thing, PNP>Rapunzel

1st Bismarck opener
1st Warehouse set closer
4th Rapunzel show closer (last 2018)

2nd ever: Bismarck, Walk Around the Moon, So Right, Break Free, Water Into Wine
3rd ever: Stay or Leave

Noteworthy
-Water Into Wine is a nice grab that I think is undervalued. Its also shown up the last 2 trips to Ohio (Dayton 2022).

[DMBFan4Life5]

ISO two pavilion seats N2.

[ramiro24]

CHS shows may have not gotten the diehard song chasing sets but the shows were pretty darn good.

As we all know, up next? Teh Creeekzzz

[btpeters]

Originally Posted by ramiro24

CHS shows may have not gotten the diehard song chasing sets but the shows were pretty darn good.

As we all know, up next? Teh Creeekzzz

Hope its finally the Mother Father>Me and Julio year! Fingers crossed!

[daveindyman]

We sure couldnt be lucky enough to have weather at showtime like we have been having the past couple weeks..... minus the all the smoke. This low humidity rocks.

[joeyray34]

3 weeks til my first teh creekz! I apparently drunkenly won a bamaworks auction so I’ll be in the pit N1 so that’s exciting.

[btpeters]

With Hartford, Mansfield and Star Lake in the lead up to Deer Creek, I feel like some quality debuts are gonna show up that we will benefit from.

Though, I do feel like Pine Knob and Milwaukee are gonna snag a couple right before us that we hope to hear and won't get (this happened to me with Hello Again in 2018)

[BigWhiskey1855]

Realistic things I'd like to check off my list at Deer Creek: Crash, Bartender, The Ocean and The Butterfly, Bismarck, Say Goodbye, or Recently.

I'd also just like to see The Stone or Typical again.

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[btpeters]

Busted Stuff or gtfo for this guy

[twostepping]

Originally Posted by btpeters

With Hartford, Mansfield and Star Lake in the lead up to Deer Creek, I feel like some quality debuts are gonna show up that we will benefit from.

Though, I do feel like Pine Knob and Milwaukee are gonna snag a couple right before us that we hope to hear and won't get (this happened to me with Hello Again in 2018)

I'll be at both!

[twostepping]

Originally Posted by btpeters

Busted Stuff or gtfo for this guy

That's one of the few songs I'm still chasing.

[chapmansj]

Hoping to finally get Captain this year after it was scratched from N2 in 2021! Busted Stuff will hopefully stay in rotation until DC. I have a feeling they will make up for the encore from N2 last year with something really special. Hell even the N1 encore last year was pretty lackluster with Sister and YMDT (I enjoy the song but really prefer it in non power slots)

Here is to hoping this new trend of interesting encores continues for the rest of tour!

[daveindyman]

Originally Posted by btpeters

Busted Stuff or gtfo for this guy

Bingo.... that and Hello Again every year for me...

[btpeters]

Originally Posted by daveindyman

Bingo.... that and Hello Again every year for me...

Well, it'll be that if Hello Again shows up. I'm just goin with what is on the docket so far this tour


I have the bad luck of never being able to catch Hello Again or Pay For What You Get when they come back. Even when they feel like a sure thing.

[mHeiser92]

If Busted Stuff is sticking around I'd love to get that one. Where's Raven hiding?

My #1 chase song is still Shotgun at this point.

[BigWhiskey1855]

Originally Posted by mHeiser92

If Busted Stuff is sticking around I'd love to get that one. Where's Raven hiding?

My #1 chase song is still Shotgun at this point.

I didn't list Raven because it's unrealistic in my mind on this tour, but the current iteration of the band does it so well. It's a shame (a damn shame?)

I was lucky enough to get Busted Stuff in Nashville, but I would love to see it again. It sounds great this year.

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[btpeters]

They could make for an incredibly fresh weekend at Deer Creek this year and not even have to debut anything.

Here's a list of non-WATM songs they could play at Deer Creek this summer from what has already shown up this tour, that hasn't been played in a bit here.

Busted Stuff - never played
Brick House - never
Bismarck - last 2016
The Maker - last 2009
Say Goodbye - last 2009
JTR - last 2010
Gravedigger - last 2013
When the World Ends - Last 2015
Virginia in the Rain - last 2015
Lover Lay Down - Last 2016
Crash - last 2018
Space Between - last 2018
Come On Come On - last 2018
Fool to Think - last 2019
Squirm - Last 2019
Stay - last 2019
Water into Wine - last 2019

That's 17 songs (Water Into Wine & Brick House usually doesn't even count in the song count number...so maybe 15). Roughly 8 per night to go with the 5-6 WATM songs. Which still leaves room for 6-7 spots for your staples and overplayeds and whatnot.

[donvito72]

Originally Posted by mHeiser92

If Busted Stuff is sticking around I'd love to get that one. Where's Raven hiding?

My #1 chase song is still Shotgun at this point.

Me as well. But I also just got Busted Stuff at Forest Hills for the first time since August of 2000.

[btpeters]

Pretty solid set writing in Hartford. Shame they didn't get Bismarck as it was one of the places that didn't get it in 2016. No Busted Stuff either, but its been played there 4 times in their history which is far and away the most of any venue. Repeats from last year were ones people don't mind either. And some of the common songs or groaners actually hadn't shown up there in quite a while.

Venue Stats: Hartford

4 (kinda 5) Never Played Before: All You Wanted Was Tomorrow, Madman's Eyes, I Want You (She's So Heavy)(partial)>After Everything, Looking For Vein

0 Liberation (almanac rules): N/A

3 Tour Debuts: Song That Jane Likes, Say Goodbye, Shake Me Like A Monkey

3 Songs Played Last time in Hartford (2022): Dancing Nancies, Say Goodbye, Walk Around The Moon

1st since 2013 - Shake Me Like A Monkey

1st since 2014 - Satellite, Stay

1st since 2015 - Virginia In The Rain

1st since 2016 - You Might Die Trying

1st since 2018 - Louisiana Bayou

1st Song That Jane Likes opener
3rd Stay set closer (last 2001)
1st Shake Me Like A Monkey show closer (yay?)

2nd ever: Walk Around The Moon, Virginia In The Rain
3rd ever: None

Noteworthy
-2nd ever appearance of #40 in any form at Hartford. The last one in 2001 was shorter (18 seconds) but had a few lines of lyrics. Didn't quite make it to "Alwayyyyys"
-First time Say Goodbye has been in a full band encore since 1998

[daytondmb40]

Less than two weeks until the legendary Creekend. It’ll be my first.

[joeyray34]

Originally Posted by daytondmb40

Less than two weeks until the legendary Creekend. It’ll be my first.

Same here can’t wait!

[pattywagon]

Originally Posted by daytondmb40

Less than two weeks until the legendary Creekend. It’ll be my first.

Sweet man. You'll love it. It's not the Gorge or Spac but there is something about the Creek that is special!

[amkaps]

With the band in hitting their stride this last weekend, we are primed for an epic Deer Creek!

Tour Debuts in the last week include:
- What You Are
- JTR
- Fool in the Rain
- Cha Cha (Only Takes a Moment)
- Say Goodbye
- Song That Jane Likes

With these songs in rotation - plus tour staples and new album songs - combined with legendary Creekend magic, I think there is something special brewing. Personally hoping for Bartender and Spoon. Both are long-shots, but putting it out into the Universe.

[amkaps]

Originally Posted by btpeters

They could make for an incredibly fresh weekend at Deer Creek this year and not even have to debut anything.

Here's a list of non-WATM songs they could play at Deer Creek this summer from what has already shown up this tour, that hasn't been played in a bit here.

Busted Stuff - never played
Brick House - never
Bismarck - last 2016
The Maker - last 2009
Say Goodbye - last 2009
JTR - last 2010
Gravedigger - last 2013
When the World Ends - Last 2015
Virginia in the Rain - last 2015
Lover Lay Down - Last 2016
Crash - last 2018
Space Between - last 2018
Come On Come On - last 2018
Fool to Think - last 2019
Squirm - Last 2019
Stay - last 2019
Water into Wine - last 2019

That's 17 songs (Water Into Wine & Brick House usually doesn't even count in the song count number...so maybe 15). Roughly 8 per night to go with the 5-6 WATM songs. Which still leaves room for 6-7 spots for your staples and overplayeds and whatnot.

This. it's going to be a great weekend!

[donvito72]

I honestly think with nearly a week off before Star Lake, we're in for a treat friday night as well. But very much looking forward to my first Deer Creek experience in two weeks as well.

[BigWhiskey1855]

I'm interested to see how Dave holds up on what will end up being a 3 day run. I was surprised to see Summerfest fell the night before Creekend.

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[Zags85]

Originally Posted by BigWhiskey1855

I'm interested to see how Dave holds up on what will end up being a 3 day run. I was surprised to see Summerfest fell the night before Creekend.

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I noticed the same thing. The shows have already been overall shorter this year but the only positive is they have a handful of days off after Creek.

[boldm002]

10 degrees difference in daytime highs depending on which weather source.