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I love them both, I can't decide! 14 7.65%
Busted Stuff 17 9.29%
Lillywhite Sessions 141 77.05%
I don't care for either. 3 1.64%
I like turtles. 8 4.37%
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Old 09-25-2009, 09:40 PM   #1
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Best Studio Captain

Searched and didn't find a poll on this in the past. Which version of Captain do you prefer, the Lillywhite Sessions version or the Busted Stuff version?

I feel like most people prefer the LS version, but I'm partial to the BS version. I like the faster pace, and the background instruments really seem to pop more--it just sounds like there's more going on there. Of course, these may well be the same reasons many people prefer the LS one; it is certainly more muted and subdued and therefore (to me, at least) has a slightly different emotional tone to it, but I don't think it fits the lyrics as well. I do miss Boyd's awesome solo from the LS version. It may just come down to the fact that the BS version had the benefit of a final mix/master. But I prefer the BS Captain.
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  • Old 09-25-2009, 09:47 PM   #2
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    LS, pretty easily.
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    Old 09-25-2009, 09:51 PM   #3
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    I don't know why people act like the LS version is SOOOO much better. They're pretty much the same. Some lyrical changes, but none that totally basterized the song.
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    Old 09-25-2009, 09:54 PM   #4
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    I don't know why people act like the LS version is SOOOO much better. They're pretty much the same. Some lyrical changes, but none that totally basterized the song.
    This.
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    Old 09-25-2009, 09:57 PM   #5
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    tLWS.
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    Old 09-25-2009, 10:01 PM   #6
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    I agree with you OP, the faster pace sounds a lot better to me as well. I heard Busted Stuff before I heard the sessions, so maybe i'd feel differently if i heard the sessions version first, George Clinton and Bill Bush kinda thing.
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    Old 09-25-2009, 10:01 PM   #7
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    I don't know why people act like the LS version is SOOOO much better. They're pretty much the same. Some lyrical changes, but none that totally basterized the song.
    This could be one of the most absurd things I've ever read on Ants. The BS version of Captain is one of DMB's biggest fails in the studio ever. It is a shell of what it was on tLWS. Captain from the Sessions is one of the most haunting pieces of music this band ever accomplished in the studio.
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    Old 09-25-2009, 10:08 PM   #8
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    Lillywhite; I do like turtles quite a bit though.
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    Old 09-25-2009, 10:14 PM   #9
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    This could be one of the most absurd things I've ever read on Ants. The BS version of Captain is one of DMB's biggest fails in the studio ever. It is a shell of what it was on tLWS. Captain from the Sessions is one of the most haunting pieces of music this band ever accomplished in the studio.
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    Old 09-25-2009, 10:39 PM   #10
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    I prefer tLWS
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    Old 09-25-2009, 10:42 PM   #11
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    I prefer tLWS but I also like turtles.....
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    Old 09-25-2009, 10:50 PM   #12
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    I don't know why people act like the LS version is SOOOO much better. They're pretty much the same. Some lyrical changes, but none that totally basterized the song.
    I strongly disagree with this. The lyrics alone are drastically different in subject, tone, mood, and, IMO, quality. I think the music on the Busted Stuff version is also pretty cheesy.

    The LWS version is much more ambiguous, which is a quality of Dave's lyrics that I like. It can be about whatever you want--God, a woman, a friend, etc. The BS version is an incredibly straightforward lusty "love" song.
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    Old 09-25-2009, 11:17 PM   #13
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    I went with Lillywhite Sessions. However, I do enjoy turtles....
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    Old 09-25-2009, 11:22 PM   #14
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    The correct answer would be a mixture of the two. Both have some outstanding qualities, and both have their ehhh moments.
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    Old 09-25-2009, 11:31 PM   #15
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    Easiest poll ever
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    Old 09-25-2009, 11:40 PM   #16
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    Re: Best Studio Captain

    I went with the both option, but it's a little overstated. I like both versions of the song. I don't love both versions, I prefer some of the live ones more. I know tLWS version is better, but I like them equally.
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    Old 09-26-2009, 12:04 AM   #17
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    Re: Best Studio Captain

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    I don't know why people act like the LS version is SOOOO much better. They're pretty much the same. Some lyrical changes, but none that totally basterized the song.
    Lyrics were better. Vocals were wayyyy better... depressing, creepier. The music was very different. Completely different vibe and sound with the breakdown in the middle with Roi and Boyd blasting right into "why should I, be hypnotized?" A great studio cut... I can only imagine if we had a produced CD quality version of that cut.

    I would skip over Captain before Where Are You Going? on a listen through Busted Stuff. Buts thats just my opinion
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    Old 09-26-2009, 12:10 AM   #18
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    I strongly disagree with this. The lyrics alone are drastically different in subject, tone, mood, and, IMO, quality. I think the music on the Busted Stuff version is also pretty cheesy.

    The LWS version is much more ambiguous, which is a quality of Dave's lyrics that I like. It can be about whatever you want--God, a woman, a friend, etc. The BS version is an incredibly straightforward lusty "love" song.

    Could you give an example?
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    Old 09-26-2009, 12:11 AM   #19
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    Gotta be LWS. When I listen to the Busted Stuff version, I enjoy it, but I am confused
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    Old 09-26-2009, 12:35 AM   #20
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    Lillywhite hands down
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    Old 09-26-2009, 02:03 AM   #21
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    Could you give an example?
    Maybe you could check out his site perhaps?
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    Old 09-26-2009, 02:18 AM   #22
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    i was awfully tempted to express my love for turtles in this poll but lillywhite captain won. so close.
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    Old 09-26-2009, 02:20 AM   #23
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    Could you give an example?
    LWS Captain can be interpreted as being about suicide and BS is basically a straightforward "I want you" kind of song.

    Here are the last few stanzas for each version of the song.

    LWS Captain:

    "Why should I be hypnotized,
    By the promise of a long life?
    Why should I hold hope,
    In tiny, tiny dribbles that glide by?
    Why should I lean on everything... upon
    I won't be here long....

    Oh, I know I'm a dreamer,
    Still seems a truth.
    I won't be long for here.
    Oh, it's so, but I think I lay this,
    On now your lips.
    I'm drowning.

    I am the captain of... oh... But, I'll be okay after all."

    BS Captain

    "Same old song won't you come stay all my life after all
    Oh how could I even try to fight after falling into your arms?
    Oh mesmerized by your smile the way it lights up under your eyes
    Oh how could I even try love won't you stay with me?

    Oh our love - how you do me
    Oh my love - come now lets go again
    Oh our love - everything
    Oh won't play with me again we got all night

    The same old song
    Won't you come dance with me my love after all?"

    To be honest, I think it is self-explanatory towards which is better, and why they can be interpreted very differently.
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    Old 09-26-2009, 02:22 AM   #24
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    Turtles are cool but loving these poll results
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    Old 09-26-2009, 03:49 AM   #25
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    Old 09-26-2009, 03:51 AM   #26
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    I'm not sure what you mean by this, but okay....clearly tLWS captain is better.
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    Old 09-26-2009, 03:58 AM   #27
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    I enjoy Lillywhite more because of the raw edge it has. But I enjoy the older versions called Crazy about the same. But speaking of Lillywhite Sessions I suggest giving Monkey Man a listen if you havent heard it in a while. It had been a couple of years for me and it came on Slacker Radio the other day and I enjoyed it.
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    Old 09-26-2009, 04:04 AM   #28
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    adding to that...

    everybody around here now seems to be a smartass trying to make people look stupid and what not. i think we should all just post with happiness and real thought. unless somebody posts something off the wall stupid. and if they do i think we should ream their ass
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    Old 09-26-2009, 06:24 AM   #29
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    I do prefer the Busted Stuff version of the LWS version. I have stated my reasons on many threads. I am not a giant fan of the lyrics on the LWS, and I don't like it being so slow and mellow. I liked the BS and Crazy progressions.

    I have also stated that my preferred version is Crazy.
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    Old 09-26-2009, 07:11 AM   #30
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    everybody around here now seems to be a smartass trying to make people look stupid and what not. i think we should all just post with happiness and real thought. unless somebody posts something off the wall stupid. and if they do i think we should ream their ass
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