General Discussion on Setlists as a Whole This Year

[Speilmen230]

Originally Posted by TheLastPig

The fact that they are still pulling out songs like JTR, Last stop, spoon etc over the last few years says that’s false. If they have the motivation to play it once or twice, they can play it more than that. Not every song is as complex as LS.

You’re venturing into extreme excuse making territory.

I will agree that I give them credit for busting out Last Stop and Spoon, that said I don't see any reason why those songs can't get 5-10 plays instead of 1.

Drive In, Drive Out - The Stone - The Last Stop - Spoon - JTR - Sweet Up And Down should all be played at least 10 times each a tour.

I am not a fan of cornbread or bayou - but if the chance of hearing them was as good of a chance as hearing Last Stop, I don't know that I would mind them as much.

[Speilmen230]

In my 15 shows since 2008, I've seen Seven 9 times and Cornbread and You Might Die Trying 6 times.

I've never seen The Best of What's Around or Drive In, Drive Out.

I have however seen Halloween 4 times. So go figure there.

[pbroderi86]

Just taking Dave on his word here, but I think those who are hopeful for a violin are going to be disappointed next summer.

Personally, I’m playing devil’s advocate here as Dave said Boyd was part of the band’s early sound and asked to step down after all the lawsuit unfolded. Dave and company were not ahead of this, nor do I believe the sole reason Boyd left was because he was content. Pushing a story that said this was the reason was the perfect excuse, and Boyd was a good fall guy. If they were unhappy with his performance, he should have been let go years ago. Being fiercely loyal and keeping someone employed (who is well underperforming for years) does not make sense to me.

My main point being, Dave (and company) were able to get past this PR nightmare that didn’t sink their ship. I would say they have plenty to be “happy” about onstage, and the energy resignates. That being said, they successfully removed the violin this summer, and can bet they won’t reopen that can of worms ever!

[dontdrink36]

Originally Posted by Antiramie

I don’t get the band’s thinking on this at all. Do they think Boyd might come back soon? Do they not think that instrument is important?

I’m giving them the benefit of the doubt for one year after losing someone that’s been with them for so long, but if they don’t have a violin back on stage next summer that might be it for me seeing them.

I think you hit the nail on the head. The violin (Boyd) has taken a back seat in the live mix and the new material since basically Big Whiskey. Each year he faded away more and more to the point he was basically a soloist on a handful of songs each night.

The band moved on from him long before they let him go. A lot like a relationship where the people dont like each other but go through the motions in stead of breaking up. They cultivated a sound that didnt feature the violin, when it came time to finally break up with Boyd the band was used to basically playing without him and decided to just fully shift away from the violin sound.

[TwoStep2888]

Originally Posted by dontdrink36

I think you hit the nail on the head. The violin (Boyd) has taken a back seat in the live mix and the new material since basically Big Whiskey. Each year he faded away more and more to the point he was basically a soloist on a handful of songs each night.

The band moved on from him long before they let him go. A lot like a relationship where the people dont like each other but go through the motions in stead of breaking up. They cultivated a sound that didnt feature the violin, when it came time to finally break up with Boyd the band was used to basically playing without him and decided to just fully shift away from the violin sound.

[coombse]

Originally Posted by dontdrink36

How much time? The biggest whiners on this site, still show up here to bitch, and still attend 1-5 shows a tour, ya know, cause of friends, and habit, and nostalgia.

Who the fuck are you again?

[socccerr8]

Biggest question I have is... Can this thread go strong into the Fall Tour?

[ToySoldier#34]

Originally Posted by socccerr8

Biggest question I have is... Can this thread go strong into the Fall Tour?

People have been complaining about setlists for well over a decade, a two month break isn't going to change that

[rickyh24]

Two month break will most likely not change the majority of shows being throw away songs. Maybe though. I’d like the band to make it worth me driving 10 miles through rush hour traffic for them.

[dontdrink36]

Originally Posted by coombse

Who the fuck are you again?

I'm a teacher who happens to like DMB and a frequent poster on this site. Who are you?

[dontdrink36]

Originally Posted by rickyh24

Two month break will most likely not change the majority of shows being throw away songs. Maybe though. I’d like the band to make it worth me driving 10 miles through rush hour traffic for them.

Such a long trip....

[ToySoldier#34]

Originally Posted by rickyh24

Two month break will most likely not change the majority of shows being throw away songs. Maybe though. I’d like the band to make it worth me driving 10 miles through rush hour traffic for them.

Yeah I've traveled over 6,000 miles for DMB this year so far, will be nice to only go 20 miles or so to Boston, looking forward to it

[rickyh24]

Originally Posted by dontdrink36

Such a long trip....

It’s not at all. Should easily be worth it. We will see.

[rickyh24]

Originally Posted by ToySoldier#34

Yeah I've traveled over 6,000 miles for DMB this year so far,

Great year for it.

[ToySoldier#34]

Originally Posted by rickyh24

Great year for it.

Considering I've had a blast at every show I've been to yeah you are right

[rickyh24]

Originally Posted by ToySoldier#34

Considering I've had a blast at every show I've been to yeah you are right

Sets were kind of weak but always good to have fun regardless.

[ToySoldier#34]

Originally Posted by rickyh24

Sets were kind of weak but always good to have fun regardless.

Not really but it's too bad you didn't enjoy all of the shows you weren't at this summer

[DMBstandUP1984]

too early for "Anyone else think these setlists are weak (fall edition)"?

[rickyh24]

Originally Posted by ToySoldier#34

Not really but it's too bad you didn't enjoy all of the shows you weren't at this summer

Tour as a whole was very weak. Maybe the weakest.

[ToySoldier#34]

Originally Posted by rickyh24

Tour as a whole was very weak. Maybe the weakest.

Yeah like I said it's too bad you didn't like the shows you weren't at, hopefully you'll enjoy upcoming shows you don't go to

[rickyh24]

Originally Posted by ToySoldier#34

Yeah like I said it's too bad you didn't like the shows you weren't at, hopefully you'll enjoy upcoming shows you don't go to

If the shows I don’t go to are good then I’ll probably enjoy the show I go to. It’s too bad you don’t realize every show is impacted by overall tour quality.

[ToySoldier#34]

Originally Posted by rickyh24

If the shows I don’t go to are good then I’ll probably enjoy the show I go to. It’s too bad you don’t realize every show is impacted by overall tour quality.

Jumping to condescending conclusions is what you do

[dontdrink36]

Originally Posted by rickyh24

It’s not at all. Should easily be worth it. We will see.

If they aren't worth 10 miles than they probably aren't worth it to all anymore. That goes for pretty much anything not DMB or live music specifically. I can totally understand people who choose not to travel for them anymore, though.

[rickyh24]

You seem to not realize why all the shows being good matters. It is what it is.

[rickyh24]

Originally Posted by dontdrink36

If they aren't worth 10 miles than they probably aren't worth it to all anymore. That goes for pretty much anything not DMB or live music specifically. I can totally understand people who choose not to travel for them anymore, though.

Would not travel 10 miles for shows consistently like this past summer. Would travel 10 miles or a lot more for sets consistently like Camden live trax. I don’t think you realize how much philly rush hour sucks. The sets just need to be good for it to be worth it. Dmb doesn’t guarantee that.

If the show was on Saturday we probably go regardless.

[ToySoldier#34]

Originally Posted by rickyh24

You seem to not realize why all the shows being good matters. It is what it is.

You think having a difference in perspective means I don't understand where you are coming from, I get that the tour as a whole is important to you because the shows leading up to the one you are going to will likely be similar to the one you are at, I only care about the shows I'm at or close friends are at and that's it. I can have that perspective when going to something like SPAC or The Gorge every year, Boston will fall in line with everything else the way Camden does in the summer. I'm still not going to care how the shows are leading up to the Boston show, I'm not there.

[dontdrink36]

Originally Posted by rickyh24

Would not travel 10 miles for shows consistently like this past summer. Would travel 10 miles or a lot more for sets consistently like Camden live trax. I don’t think you realize how much philly rush hour sucks. The sets just need to be good for it to be worth it. Dmb doesn’t guarantee that.

If the show was on Saturday we probably go regardless.

I live near Atlanta. I know all about horrible traffic. NW corridor of 285 and 75 is one of the worst traffic areas in the country.

I know what you mean, though. You want shows to be exciting and not a chore to get to just to have a mediocre time.

[rickyh24]

Originally Posted by ToySoldier#34

. I'm still not going to care how the shows are leading up to the Boston show, I'm not there.

You still don’t get it. Even after explaining that you do.

[rickyh24]

Originally Posted by dontdrink36

I know what you mean, though. You want shows to be exciting and not a chore to get to just to have a mediocre time.

Right. Which is why the shows leading up to shows matter. Can’t get on board with somebody not caring about the tour sucking. Just awful logic.

[ToySoldier#34]

Originally Posted by rickyh24

You still don’t get it. Even after explaining that you do.

Boston will be a lot like every show before and after it, shows that I won't be paying close attention to or checking out the setlists for, pretty simple