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Old 06-30-2024, 01:54 PM   #566011
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John Fetterman is a shithead
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    This dude was recovering from a stroke though. There’s no recovery from what Biden has
    He seemed pretty fine the next day.
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    You know, there is a chance all of this actually helps Biden. People are so terrified of Trump that people that may have stayed home or voted third party end up showing just so he doesn’t win.
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    Old 06-30-2024, 02:16 PM   #566014
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    He seemed pretty fine the next day.
    They gave him the good shit they forgot to the night before.
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    You know, there is a chance all of this actually helps Biden. People are so terrified of Trump that people that may have stayed home or voted third party end up showing just so he doesn’t win.
    There is an argument to be made that having oatmeal brains up there makes it hard for normies to take seriously the argument absolute brain dead idiot morons make that electing Joe means civilization suicide.

    Dude can't even tie his shoes but people from South Carolina are telling us we gotta vote for trump otherwise society dies? Tough sell now.
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    When everything is driven by negative partisanship an argument can be made that losing debates is a good thing because it doesn't fire up the opposing base. Hillary winning debates was probably good for trump. Fired up his base to vote even harder.
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    This tweet is misleading. The first slide that shows a majority support for Biden running for President is only among Democrats, versus the second slide for Trump which is the entire electorate.

    72% of the entire electorate say Biden should not be running for President.
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    do polls matter now?
    When they confirm our biases and perspectives, they sure do!

    When they don't, though, they're unreliable. You know who picks up a landline to be polled about politics? Old people
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    CBS POLL: ****72 Percent ***** Say Biden doesn't have cognitive health to serve as president

    https://x.com/sykescharlie/status/18...uGwtGs1QZIT5Bg
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    CBS POLL: ****72 Percent ***** Say Biden doesn't have cognitive health to serve as president

    https://x.com/sykescharlie/status/18...uGwtGs1QZIT5Bg

    Yeah but 28% say he does!
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    Americans care infinitely more about TV spots and photo shoots and stuff than a president's record, So we're stuck with the orange man again this November unfortunately, And it's looking like he may be our last president.
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    Yet for the last almost 4 years he has been doing the job perfectly fine

    #polls
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    So did Macron "have" to call Elections out of some kind of good sportsmanship?

    Seems like his centrist party is going to be slaughtered by the Far Right...and all for no reason, right? Didn't have to happen?
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    This tiktok has 3 million likes


    https://x.com/firebornnn/status/1807194071586251165


    Open the schools!
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    This tiktok has 3 million likes


    https://x.com/firebornnn/status/1807194071586251165


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    The commentary that if elected Biden would likely face a Republican House and Senate sounds unlikely but is presented like its a given.


    Down ballot is outpacing Biden by a mile. America loves a generic Dem. It's Biden they don't like and don't want to elect.


    Does 538 or anywhere do % scenarios of Biden elected and likelihood the house is Dem or GOP? Because if Biden gets elected I can't see any way it's not a Dem controlled House.
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    So did Macron "have" to call Elections out of some kind of good sportsmanship?

    Seems like his centrist party is going to be slaughtered by the Far Right...and all for no reason, right? Didn't have to happen?
    France doesn't call elections like the UK or Canada. 5 year terms.

    Edit: but he was elected in 2017 and 2022 so I don't know why there is an election now.

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    Apparently macron did call a snap election when he didn't need to for another 3 years. My bad, I was under the impression that French Presidents had a a 5 year term. Will have to read more.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc...kkng554w8o.amp
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    This tiktok has 3 million likes


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    I relate to the frustration if not the misunderstanding of how gubmint works
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    I relate to the frustration if not the misunderstanding of how gubmint works

    I wonder how many of those 3M likes stayed home in 2016
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    I relate to the frustration if not the misunderstanding of how gubmint works
    But the misunderstanding of how government works is what drives the frustration TOWARDS the wrong target. Complete dumbass.

    People like that scare the normies away, too.
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    Apparently macron did call a snap election when he didn't need to for another 3 years. My bad, I was under the impression that French Presidents had a a 5 year term. Will have to read more.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc...kkng554w8o.amp
    He will still be President for the remainder of his term but if the assembly goes Far Right majority then he has to appoint one for Prime Minister. Apparently there is a 28 year old wunderkind that Marine La Pen can't wait to get into that chair. Apparently he is dating her niece. Woo hoo Nepotism!


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    The commentary that if elected Biden would likely face a Republican House and Senate sounds unlikely but is presented like it’s a given.

    Down ballot is outpacing Biden by a mile. America loves a generic Dem. It's Biden they don't like and don't want to elect.

    Does 538 or anywhere do % scenarios of Biden elected and likelihood the house is Dem or GOP? Because if Biden gets elected I can't see any way it's not a Dem controlled House.
    America loves their divided government. Very few (and short) periods of a 2 chamber + presidency control for 1 party in most of our lifetimes. And 3 branch control for Dems has been virtually non-existent for our lifetimes.

    Sabato’s Crystal Ball has the Senate at 50R, 48D, and 2 Toss Up. The toss ups are Montana and Ohio.

    Their House forecast has safe/likely/lean R at 211, and 206 D.

    https://centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/2024-senate/

    https://centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/2024-house/

    So, yeah, it’s pretty likely even with a Biden win that it’ll be at best a narrow R House and a power shared Senate.
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    He will still be President for the remainder of his term but if the assembly goes Far Right majority then he has to appoint one for Prime Minister. Apparently there is a 28 year old wunderkind that Marine La Pen can't wait to get into that chair. Apparently he is dating her niece. Woo hoo Nepotism!


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    I wonder how many of those 3M likes stayed home in 2016
    Most of them probably weren't voting age in 2016
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    America loves their divided government. Very few (and short) periods of a 2 chamber + presidency control for 1 party in most of our lifetimes. And 3 branch control for Dems has been virtually non-existent for our lifetimes.

    Sabato’s Crystal Ball has the Senate at 50R, 48D, and 2 Toss Up. The toss ups are Montana and Ohio.

    Their House forecast has safe/likely/lean R at 211, and 206 D.

    https://centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/2024-senate/

    https://centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/2024-house/

    So, yeah, it’s pretty likely even with a Biden win that it’ll be at best a narrow R House and a power shared Senate.

    And a compromised scotus
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    Okay folks. This stuff is no longer just nauseating; it's downright dangerous.

    Joe Biden limped his way past a fractured 2020 primary field, the party finally coalescing around him because 1) he was the safest pick against an opponent they feared to an existential degree, and 2) his explicit promise to be the “bridge” (wink, wink) to the next generation of Democrats, several of whom flanked him on stage in Detroit as those words left his mouth and interpreted them exactly as Dem primary voters did.

    Then he won in November by 43k votes against a spiraling, self-sabotaging incumbent who talked about injecting bleach as the country was falling apart.

    Biden’s 2020 campaign was not some strategic masterstroke; there were no tactical or messaging breakthroughs that serve as blueprints for Poli Sci 101 lectures. The guy barely left his house between March and November! Sorry, but squeaking past the Bad News Bears doesn’t make you the ‘27 Yankees.

    And yet the people around him have spent 3.5 years hailing the president as some sort of Jedi master: supernaturally tuned to the psyche of the electorate, singularly equipped to govern the country, uniquely able to save democracy from Donald Trump in 2024.

    It’s nonsense.

    Joe Biden is not Barack Obama. He's not Ronald Reagan. Heck, he's not even Bill Clinton. Spare us the lazy ahistorical comparisons and the romantic underdog narratives.

    The truth is, the president is old, unpopular, and trapped by a dilemma of his own making. He picked a vice president in whom he’s lost confidence; is facing an opponent who insults him and his family in ways that his Irish pride can’t get beyond; and has surrounded himself with sycophants who refuse to tell him the truth.

    Joe Biden has a distinguished record of public service. He has, in certain important ways, been an effective chief executive. But this mythologizing of the man is an insult to the public’s intelligence—and, in and of itself, a threat to our democratic institutions.

    The reason for panic right now isn’t because a bunch of pundits and elites are oblivious to the thinking of regular people; it’s because those regular people always had a hunch the pundits and elites were lying to them about Biden’s capacities and now it’s been confirmed

    https://x.com/TimAlberta/status/1807592631351853275
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    I hope we're ready for the end of democracy and the beginning of a dictatorship. Didn't need to happen obviously, but if there's any place I would believe it could happen, It would be in the U.S. RIP.
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    Okay folks. This stuff is no longer just nauseating; it's downright dangerous.

    Joe Biden limped his way past a fractured 2020 primary field, the party finally coalescing around him because 1) he was the safest pick against an opponent they feared to an existential degree, and 2) his explicit promise to be the “bridge” (wink, wink) to the next generation of Democrats, several of whom flanked him on stage in Detroit as those words left his mouth and interpreted them exactly as Dem primary voters did.

    Then he won in November by 43k votes against a spiraling, self-sabotaging incumbent who talked about injecting bleach as the country was falling apart.

    Biden’s 2020 campaign was not some strategic masterstroke; there were no tactical or messaging breakthroughs that serve as blueprints for Poli Sci 101 lectures. The guy barely left his house between March and November! Sorry, but squeaking past the Bad News Bears doesn’t make you the ‘27 Yankees.

    And yet the people around him have spent 3.5 years hailing the president as some sort of Jedi master: supernaturally tuned to the psyche of the electorate, singularly equipped to govern the country, uniquely able to save democracy from Donald Trump in 2024.

    It’s nonsense.

    Joe Biden is not Barack Obama. He's not Ronald Reagan. Heck, he's not even Bill Clinton. Spare us the lazy ahistorical comparisons and the romantic underdog narratives.

    The truth is, the president is old, unpopular, and trapped by a dilemma of his own making. He picked a vice president in whom he’s lost confidence; is facing an opponent who insults him and his family in ways that his Irish pride can’t get beyond; and has surrounded himself with sycophants who refuse to tell him the truth.

    Joe Biden has a distinguished record of public service. He has, in certain important ways, been an effective chief executive. But this mythologizing of the man is an insult to the public’s intelligence—and, in and of itself, a threat to our democratic institutions.

    The reason for panic right now isn’t because a bunch of pundits and elites are oblivious to the thinking of regular people; it’s because those regular people always had a hunch the pundits and elites were lying to them about Biden’s capacities and now it’s been confirmed

    https://x.com/TimAlberta/status/1807592631351853275
    Could not have put it more eloquently.
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    I hope we're ready for the end of democracy and the beginning of a dictatorship. Didn't need to happen obviously, but if there's any place I would believe it could happen, It would be in the U.S. RIP.
    I was a sweet, naive baby before 2015-16

    I guess I didn't think those ideas could take hold in America because I didn't think the mainstream of either party was susceptible to those ideas
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    Could not have put it more eloquently.


    He had one bad debate.
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