General Discussion on Setlists as a Whole This Year

[dmbnut21]

Originally Posted by CheckEmOutBoyd6

I would rather dig a hole to china unless I was there then not being tied to the ground, not falling but rising like rolling around. whatever the hell that is supposed to mean

I think he is referring to being free like a cloud. I think it is supposed to be thought of as "Rising like rolling around, eyes closed above the rooftops. Not a great lyric but, You and Me also is not a very good song but at least it is only 3 1/2 minutes long and the lyrics are still more intelligently written that Dream Girl.

I have no idea how digging a hole could possibly steal the wind from the sails of greedy men who rule the world. Solid logic.

It's also sort of uncool that in the song Dave gets wasted, wakes up and then bangs it out with whomever he is with but in reality he was dreaming beforehand of his "dream girl". That's like banging your chick while yelling out Jennifer Aniston, or whoever you kids think is hot these days.

Anyway, I have to stop, I just read the entire lyrics to Dreamgirl and it hurt my head. Dear lord Stand Up has just terrible lyrics. Wtf.

[Antiramie]

[Bethel (final...hopefully) predictions:

Opener: What Would You Say
E1: Granny
TD: None
LIB: Dive In

[dmbnut21]

Just curious, why don't you guys do the game this way?

Opener:
Closer:

Encore Opener:
Encore Closer:

*Note: Encore Closer can be put in as None if you expect a 1 song encore and that becomes a correct answer. If there are 3 songs than the second song doesn't count towards either answer.

TD/LIB: Limit it to 1 song between these two (even though there could be more). If you guess a TD that's $5. If you guess a LIB that is $15 (LIBs are super rare). You can't guess None. That's boring. Don't be poon.

[Antiramie]

Originally Posted by dmbnut21

Just curious, why don't you guys do the game this way?

Opener:
Closer:

Encore Opener:
Encore Closer:

*Note: Encore Closer can be put in as None if you expect a 1 song encore and that becomes a correct answer. If there are 3 songs than the second song doesn't count towards either answer.

TD/LIB: Limit it to 1 song between these two (even though there could be more). If you guess a TD that's $5. If you guess a LIB that is $15 (LIBs are super rare). You can't guess None. That's boring. Don't be poon.

We did closers and then got tired of having to pick the same 3 songs every show.

TDs and LIBs are limited to one song.

I do think though that LIB bet should be different than TD. Bmw, $10 for LIB? They definitely should be different than TD since they're more rare.

I'm content with being able to choose none for both. Shouldn't be forced to pick those if you think none will show up.

[Bmwm3oz]

Originally Posted by Antiramie

We did closers and then got tired of having to pick the same 3 songs every show.

TDs and LIBs are limited to one song.

I do think though that LIB bet should be different than TD. Bmw, $10 for LIB? They definitely should be different than TD since they're more rare.

I'm content with being able to choose none for both. Shouldn't be forced to pick those if you think none will show up.

LIB is already $10 if you get the song right. It's $5 if you guess a LIB, a LIB happens, but you didn't pick the right song.

If we are talking about making it $10 for simply guessing there is a LIB, I guess I'm up for that. Would that make it $15 for getting the song right?

Does that mean if you guess a LIB for Wednesday, and I say no LIB, and there is no LIB, I get $10? Those are high stakes

[Antiramie]

Originally Posted by Bmwm3oz

LIB is already $10 if you get the song right. It's $5 if you guess a LIB, a LIB happens, but you didn't pick the right song.

If we are talking about making it $10 for simply guessing there is a LIB, I guess I'm up for that. Would that make it $15 for getting the song right?

Does that mean if you guess a LIB for Wednesday, and I say no LIB, and there is no LIB, I get $10? Those are high stakes

Yea, that might get kind of crazy. How about everything stays the same but LIB is a mandatory pick. If they play what you guessed you get $10.

?

[Bmwm3oz]

Originally Posted by Antiramie

Yea, that might get kind of crazy. How about everything stays the same but LIB is a mandatory pick. If they play what you guessed you get $10.

?

So we are taking the $5 option out of LIB? I like guessing only LIB only when I think a LIB is coming. Mandated guesses feels too Russian'eee .

All rules stay the same?

[Antiramie]

Originally Posted by Bmwm3oz

So we are taking the $5 option out of LIB? I like guessing only LIB only when I think a LIB is coming. Mandated guesses feels too Russian'eee .

All rules stay the same?

Lol, yea.

$5
$5
$5 (+$5)
$5 (+$5)

My last picks stand btw.

[Antiramie]

Bmw, I've got one more change I think we should make. Given that LIBs are inherently rare...and TDs become more so as the tour progresses...I think there's an advantage to picking last. You get to see what your opponent chose, and if he includes a LIB/TD it's probably strategically better to not include one.

So, I think we should alternate who goes first for every show we do. That way there's no way anyone can have an advantage in the long run.

[Bmwm3oz]

Originally Posted by Antiramie

Bmw, I've got one more change I think we should make. Given that LIBs are inherently rare...and TDs become more so as the tour progresses...I think there's an advantage to picking last. You get to see what your opponent chose, and if he includes a LIB/TD it's probably strategically better to not include one.

So, I think we should alternate who goes first for every show we do. That way there's no way anyone can have an advantage in the long run.

Ok I’m in. Since you’ve already gone, I’ll go first on the next round.

[Antiramie]

Originally Posted by Bmwm3oz

Ok I’m in. Since you’ve already gone, I’ll go first on the next round.

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[Bmwm3oz]

Originally Posted by Antiramie

[Bethel (final...hopefully) predictions:

Opener: What Would You Say
E1: Granny
TD: None
LIB: Dive In

Opener: That Girl is You
E1: None is this okay? Let's say it's a one song encore and that song closes the show, and you guess an E1 and I say none for E1, can I get $5? I think we should do this.. keeps it interesting. I'm fine with implementing this on the next set. If we either nix this idea or only make it count after this show, then Some Devil is my guess.
TD: None
LIB: None

I'm nervous about this one..I have no idea. mid-week shows are tough!

I think you'll win on this one, good luck

[YouNeverKnow25]

had a real good time saturday night but why i am-can't stop-you and me-jimi thing-shake me

is about as bad as it gets for a 5 song run to end a set

[richvisser23]

Originally Posted by YouNeverKnow25

had a real good time saturday night but why i am-can't stop-you and me-jimi thing-shake me

is about as bad as it gets for a 5 song run to end a set

IMO N1>N2 the last few years.

[YouNeverKnow25]

I certainly would have much rather been at night 1 than night 2 this past weekend

[Bmwm3oz]

Originally Posted by richvisser23

IMO N1>N2 the last few years.

Def does not apply to Chicago last year. N1 was the worst show I've ever attended, and N2 looked much better. But yeah, exceptions don't make a rule

[richvisser23]

Originally Posted by Bmwm3oz

Def does not apply to Chicago last year. N1 was the worst show I've ever attended, and N2 looked much better. But yeah, exceptions don't make a rule

I always go to both nights, just because I plan my weekend around traveling to those types of shows. But I do feel this way from the last few 2 night shows I attended. But also by looking at others. I would provide examples, but I am lazy.

[Bmwm3oz]

Originally Posted by richvisser23

I always go to both nights, just because I plan my weekend around traveling to those types of shows. But I do feel this way from the last few 2 night shows I attended. But also by looking at others. I would provide examples, but I am lazy.

I'm the same, but we couldn't do N2 because my girlfriends mom's birthday was N2..

[Antiramie]

Originally Posted by Bmwm3oz

Opener: That Girl is You
E1: None is this okay? Let's say it's a one song encore and that song closes the show, and you guess an E1 and I say none for E1, can I get $5? I think we should do this.. keeps it interesting. I'm fine with implementing this on the next set. If we either nix this idea or only make it count after this show, then Some Devil is my guess.
TD: None
LIB: None

I'm nervous about this one..I have no idea. mid-week shows are tough!

I think you'll win on this one, good luck

If there’s a one song encore that counts as the E1.

So you have to pick an E1. If you think it’ll just be one song then you pick that song for your E1.

[Bmwm3oz]

Originally Posted by Antiramie

If there’s a one song encore that counts as the E1.

So you have to pick an E1. If you think it’ll just be one song then you pick that song for your E1.

Alright, I'm fine with that. I really have no idea..

Sticking with Some Devil as E1.

[Bmwm3oz]

Last minute change. Should we decide a cutoff point in terms of time? and/or maybe a... you only get one guess, or two?

Opener: So Much To Say
E1: Some Devil
TD: None
LIB: None

[dmbnut21]

Originally Posted by Bmwm3oz

Last minute change. Should we decide a cutoff point in terms of time? and/or maybe a... you only get one guess, or two?

Opener: So Much To Say
E1: Some Devil
TD: None
LIB: None

Wait, so you guys are skipping both the closer and the E2 spot? That's lame.

Also TD: So Damn Lucky I'll take my cash in bitcoin.

[Antiramie]

Originally Posted by Bmwm3oz

Last minute change. Should we decide a cutoff point in terms of time? and/or maybe a... you only get one guess, or two?

Opener: So Much To Say
E1: Some Devil
TD: None
LIB: None

I’d say 8:00 ET cutoff no matter what, so there’s no question it was in on time.

One revision allowed. If you’re the first person to go, you can’t revise after the other person posts theirs.

[Antiramie]

8:00 cutoff for person going 2nd (first guess or revision)

First person goes by 3:00 ET day of show?

[dmbnut21]

This is the most intense game I have seen since GOT ended...

[Bmwm3oz]

OSW was my first guess but I deleted it. Stick with your gut.

Don’t be jealous dmbnut

[Bmwm3oz]

This set looks very familiar so far.

[Antiramie]

Iowa is starting to look like an outlier this tour.

Dave just won’t take chances anymore...

[ToySoldier#34]

They just don't play their great songs except for when they do or sound check or practice except for when they do, led by an asshole except for him not being one

[Antiramie]

Originally Posted by ToySoldier#34

They just don't play their great songs except for when they do or sound check or practice except for when they do, led by an asshole except for him not being one

They play the same shit pretty much every show except for destination venues and Iowa apparently.