*Prompter Thread* (NO Personal Attacks, Trolling, breaking 52 USC 30121 OR 2 USC 684) - Page 8586 - Antsmarching.org Forums

Go Back   Antsmarching.org Forums > General Discussion > nDMBc Discussion


Want to hide all ads on Ants? Click here
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-02-2020, 09:04 AM   #257551
BTBaboon
 
BTBaboon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Quarantined, PrompterThread
Posts: 28,843

Shows Seen: 28

Re: *Prompter Thread* (NO Personal Attacks, Trolling, breaking 52 USC 30121 OR 2 USC

I have some HUGE concerns that the monthly jobs report is going to give congress false security in the recovery, and they are going to let jobless benefits expire at the end of July. The weekly jobless claims does not have the downward slope you want to see, and with recent re-closings it may get worse before it gets better, and the continuing claims rising is unexpected and a big worry.

We still have 14M jobs to add back, and ~7% to cut off the unemployment rate, and I worry fiscal hawks are going to stand in the way of continued relief and the economy will double dip.
__________________
The Vinyl Farm: Instagram | Blog

Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDMB
You probably know more about this stuff than I do.
BTBaboon is offline   Reply With Quote

  • Want to hide all ads on Ants? Click here
  • Old 07-02-2020, 09:05 AM   #257552
    YouKnowThatItIS
    Go Bucks!
     
    YouKnowThatItIS's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Aug 2009
    Location: Milwaukee, WI
    Posts: 2,863

    Shows Seen: 124

    Re: *Prompter Thread* (NO Personal Attacks, Trolling, breaking 52 USC 30121 OR 2 USC

    I am now among the furloughed who filed for unemployment this week. My employer did what they could to keep us aboard but with no money coming in for likely all of 2020 they had no choice.

    Obviously the virus is the main reason behind this. But the idiot “reopen now for freedom” fuckheads made things worse in regards to us gaining control of the spread of the virus. This made the prospects of our business bleak for the rest of 2020. The irony of people using economics as a talking point regarding reopening when that very reopening is causing the opposite to happen would be laughable if it wasn’t so ignorant.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    __________________
    Fear the Deer - Go Bucks
    YouKnowThatItIS is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-02-2020, 09:06 AM   #257553
    mthawk07
    In all kinds of weather
     
    mthawk07's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Oct 2005
    Location: Tampa
    Posts: 17,153

    Shows Seen: 19

    Re: *Prompter Thread* (NO Personal Attacks, Trolling, breaking 52 USC 30121 OR 2 USC

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BTBaboon View Post
    I have some HUGE concerns that the monthly jobs report is going to give congress false security in the recovery, and they are going to let jobless benefits expire at the end of July. The weekly jobless claims does not have the downward slope you want to see, and with recent re-closings it may get worse before it gets better, and the continuing claims rising is unexpected and a big worry.

    We still have 14M jobs to add back, and ~7% to cut off the unemployment rate, and I worry fiscal hawks are going to stand in the way of continued relief and the economy will double dip.

    I’m highly skeptical another stimulus package would have been passed regardless.
    __________________
    "And when they've given you their all, some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy banging your heart against some mad bugger's wall."
    mthawk07 is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-02-2020, 09:07 AM   #257554
    Dannyyankou
     
    Dannyyankou's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Dec 2010
    Location: Westchester, NY
    Posts: 23,942

    Shows Seen: 27

    Re: *Prompter Thread* (NO Personal Attacks, Trolling, breaking 52 USC 30121 OR 2 USC

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by YouKnowThatItIS View Post
    I am now among the furloughed who filed for unemployment this week. My employer did what they could to keep us aboard but with no money coming in for likely all of 2020 they had no choice.

    Obviously the virus is the main reason behind this. But the idiot “reopen now for freedom” fuckheads made things worse in regards to us gaining control of the spread of the virus. This made the prospects of our business bleak for the rest of 2020. The irony of people using economics as a talking point regarding reopening when that very reopening is causing the opposite to happen would be laughable if it wasn’t so ignorant.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    Sorry about that. Yeah, even though a lot of people are coming back to work, there’s still above average jobless claims every week. This economy is nowhere close to getting back in good shape.
    Dannyyankou is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-02-2020, 09:07 AM   #257555
    BTBaboon
     
    BTBaboon's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Jul 2015
    Location: Quarantined, PrompterThread
    Posts: 28,843

    Shows Seen: 28

    Re: *Prompter Thread* (NO Personal Attacks, Trolling, breaking 52 USC 30121 OR 2 USC

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by YouKnowThatItIS View Post
    The irony of people using economics as a talking point regarding reopening when that very reopening is causing the opposite to happen would be laughable if it wasn’t so ignorant.
    At the beginning of this, many noted that during the Flu pandemic of 1918, the areas that shutdown hard and prevented spread had more swift and robust economic recoveries than those areas that did not.
    __________________
    The Vinyl Farm: Instagram | Blog

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ShotgunDMB
    You probably know more about this stuff than I do.
    BTBaboon is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-02-2020, 09:12 AM   #257556
    daveshookme
    Altuve wore a wire
     
    daveshookme's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Jun 2009
    Location: online
    Posts: 55,139

    Shows Seen: 46

    Re: *Prompter Thread* (NO Personal Attacks, Trolling, breaking 52 USC 30121 OR 2 USC

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BTBaboon View Post
    At the beginning of this, many noted that during the Flu pandemic of 1918, the areas that shutdown hard and prevented spread had more swift and robust economic recoveries than those areas that did not.
    Many people have been saying it. Very smart people. The best people, really, they tell me "sir! You cannot control the economy until you control the virus."

    So that's what I did. I went out, I told them "we'll take control of the numbers real quick." Nobody else could've done that. Nobody *does stupid little hand movement that has never once convinced anybody of anything*

    I told my advisors "just stop testing. when you test, you get cases. no tests means no cases. no cases means we can open up again"
    __________________
    Tape Cover Artwork
    Twitter
    100 Day election predictions

    #LetBrettBang
    daveshookme is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-02-2020, 09:13 AM   #257557
    Lee3691
     
    Lee3691's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Aug 2002
    Location: Californian in Texas
    Posts: 39,281

    Shows Seen: 123

    Re: *Prompter Thread* (NO Personal Attacks, Trolling, breaking 52 USC 30121 OR 2 USC

    I know you're not going to believe this but: https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/...itter-account/
    Lee3691 is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-02-2020, 09:13 AM   #257558
    Dannyyankou
     
    Dannyyankou's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Dec 2010
    Location: Westchester, NY
    Posts: 23,942

    Shows Seen: 27

    Re: *Prompter Thread* (NO Personal Attacks, Trolling, breaking 52 USC 30121 OR 2 USC

    Cuomo’s been warning from the start, states that shutdown and have more restrictive measures suffer less economic damage. We’ve learned this from 1918 too. New York reopened safely, and besides the masks, you wouldn’t even know there was a pandemic going on here. Really the only things shut down still are movie theaters, and indoor restaurants in the city.
    Dannyyankou is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-02-2020, 09:13 AM   #257559
    daveshookme
    Altuve wore a wire
     
    daveshookme's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Jun 2009
    Location: online
    Posts: 55,139

    Shows Seen: 46

    Re: *Prompter Thread* (NO Personal Attacks, Trolling, breaking 52 USC 30121 OR 2 USC

    Happy Thursday everybody.

    Morning reminder that our president cheated on his wife just after she gave birth to his son, with a mid-level porn star, whom he then paid off with money taken from a second mortgage on his lawyer's house, during a campaign for president, and didn't report any of that on FEC disclosure forms, and faced no consequence.
    __________________
    Tape Cover Artwork
    Twitter
    100 Day election predictions

    #LetBrettBang
    daveshookme is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-02-2020, 09:15 AM   #257560
    Dannyyankou
     
    Dannyyankou's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Dec 2010
    Location: Westchester, NY
    Posts: 23,942

    Shows Seen: 27

    Re: *Prompter Thread* (NO Personal Attacks, Trolling, breaking 52 USC 30121 OR 2 USC

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BTBaboon View Post
    At the beginning of this, many noted that during the Flu pandemic of 1918, the areas that shutdown hard and prevented spread had more swift and robust economic recoveries than those areas that did not.
    I just typed out this same point and didn’t see your post, haha. States like New York, Connecticut, and New Jersey are as close to “back to normal” as they can get, and they’ve contained the virus. And they acted the most aggressively.
    Dannyyankou is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-02-2020, 09:15 AM   #257561
    drop2d
     
    drop2d's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Dec 2003
    Location: NH
    Posts: 25,310

    Shows Seen: 32

    Re: *Prompter Thread* (NO Personal Attacks, Trolling, breaking 52 USC 30121 OR 2 USC

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BTBaboon View Post
    I have some HUGE concerns that the monthly jobs report is going to give congress false security in the recovery, and they are going to let jobless benefits expire at the end of July. The weekly jobless claims does not have the downward slope you want to see, and with recent re-closings it may get worse before it gets better, and the continuing claims rising is unexpected and a big worry.

    We still have 14M jobs to add back, and ~7% to cut off the unemployment rate, and I worry fiscal hawks are going to stand in the way of continued relief and the economy will double dip.
    The other thing that is missing here is the portion of us still working that had to take a massive pay cut. I wonder what percentage that is? Are there any numbers anywhere on that? I know very few people personally (not just in travel) that haven't had to take a paycut. Fortunately, my wife is one of them. Otherwise we'd be really fucked.
    __________________
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bonzo48280 View Post
    I'd rather be wearing an American Flag T-shirt blasting Foreigner through a boombox in Pyongyang than ever set foot in St Louis ever again.
    drop2d is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-02-2020, 09:21 AM   #257562
    BTBaboon
     
    BTBaboon's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Jul 2015
    Location: Quarantined, PrompterThread
    Posts: 28,843

    Shows Seen: 28

    Re: *Prompter Thread* (NO Personal Attacks, Trolling, breaking 52 USC 30121 OR 2 USC

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by drop2d View Post
    The other thing that is missing here is the portion of us still working that had to take a massive pay cut. I wonder what percentage that is? Are there any numbers anywhere on that? I know very few people personally (not just in travel) that haven't had to take a paycut. Fortunately, my wife is one of them. Otherwise we'd be really fucked.
    And that's reflected in the jobs report, too, with a -1.2% month-on-month average hourly earnings drop.

    People are losing income even in the case that they're working. I've now lost 2 weeks of pay over the past 2 months with a 1-week furlough in each. State + Federal Unemployment hasn't made me whole, and I didn't received stimulus.

    Congress can't let a head fake or dead cat bounce dissuade them from passing more/extending relief for workers.
    __________________
    The Vinyl Farm: Instagram | Blog

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ShotgunDMB
    You probably know more about this stuff than I do.
    BTBaboon is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-02-2020, 09:21 AM   #257563
    M. Steng
    Big Brain Stengs
     
    M. Steng's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Sep 2012
    Posts: 16,037

    Shows Seen: 20

    Re: *Prompter Thread* (NO Personal Attacks, Trolling, breaking 52 USC 30121 OR 2 USC

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by daveshookme View Post
    Happy Thursday everybody.

    Morning reminder that our president cheated on his wife just after she gave birth to his son, with a mid-level porn star, whom he then paid off with money taken from a second mortgage on his lawyer's house, during a campaign for president, and didn't report any of that on FEC disclosure forms, and faced no consequence.
    Uhhh this just sounds like an ALPHA being an ALPHA, you beta cuck
    __________________
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ShotgunDMB View Post
    WHO the hell are you? You have got to be the most annoying person on the planet. You're like a puppy begging for attention.
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by neumdogg View Post
    Steng - dude holds no punches. He calls people out and does so with an uppercut
    M. Steng is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-02-2020, 09:21 AM   #257564
    YouKnowThatItIS
    Go Bucks!
     
    YouKnowThatItIS's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Aug 2009
    Location: Milwaukee, WI
    Posts: 2,863

    Shows Seen: 124

    Re: *Prompter Thread* (NO Personal Attacks, Trolling, breaking 52 USC 30121 OR 2 USC

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dannyyankou View Post
    Sorry about that. Yeah, even though a lot of people are coming back to work, there’s still above average jobless claims every week. This economy is nowhere close to getting back in good shape.


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BTBaboon View Post
    At the beginning of this, many noted that during the Flu pandemic of 1918, the areas that shutdown hard and prevented spread had more swift and robust economic recoveries than those areas that did not.
    What makes it even more frustrating is trying to have conversations about these facts with the “reopen now for freedom” crowd gets a person no where. They are so entrenched in this viewpoint that any evidence provided to them such as what you both pointed out is outright dismissed. And I’m not talking about the Trump cult because they are not even worth having discussions about anything with. It’s the normally reasonable people that have this view that frustrate me to no end.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    __________________
    Fear the Deer - Go Bucks
    YouKnowThatItIS is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-02-2020, 09:23 AM   #257565
    BTBaboon
     
    BTBaboon's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Jul 2015
    Location: Quarantined, PrompterThread
    Posts: 28,843

    Shows Seen: 28

    Re: *Prompter Thread* (NO Personal Attacks, Trolling, breaking 52 USC 30121 OR 2 USC

    Oof...digging into the jobs report and you find some uglies.

    https://twitter.com/TheStalwart/stat...193137665?s=20

    Quote:
    On a monthly basis, this was actually the worst month yet for new permanent job losses. Nearly 600K
    This chart illustrates the issue - red line is unemployed persons, white line is job losses characterized as permanent. It's concerning they're moving in opposite directions: https://twitter.com/TheStalwart/stat...202061/photo/1
    __________________
    The Vinyl Farm: Instagram | Blog

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ShotgunDMB
    You probably know more about this stuff than I do.
    BTBaboon is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-02-2020, 09:25 AM   #257566
    drop2d
     
    drop2d's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Dec 2003
    Location: NH
    Posts: 25,310

    Shows Seen: 32

    Re: *Prompter Thread* (NO Personal Attacks, Trolling, breaking 52 USC 30121 OR 2 USC

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BTBaboon View Post
    And that's reflected in the jobs report, too, with a -1.2% month-on-month average hourly earnings drop.

    People are losing income even in the case that they're working. I've now lost 2 weeks of pay over the past 2 months with a 1-week furlough in each. State + Federal Unemployment hasn't made me whole, and I didn't received stimulus.

    Congress can't let a head fake or dead cat bounce dissuade them from passing more/extending relief for workers.
    Ah... thanks for providing.
    __________________
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bonzo48280 View Post
    I'd rather be wearing an American Flag T-shirt blasting Foreigner through a boombox in Pyongyang than ever set foot in St Louis ever again.
    drop2d is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-02-2020, 09:25 AM   #257567
    Lee3691
     
    Lee3691's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Aug 2002
    Location: Californian in Texas
    Posts: 39,281

    Shows Seen: 123

    Re: *Prompter Thread* (NO Personal Attacks, Trolling, breaking 52 USC 30121 OR 2 USC

    He went to Jared: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkeyFUe6WdU
    Lee3691 is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-02-2020, 09:26 AM   #257568
    BruceW
     
    BruceW's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Apr 2005
    Location: FLA
    Posts: 29,952

    Shows Seen: 49

    Re: *Prompter Thread* (NO Personal Attacks, Trolling, breaking 52 USC 30121 OR 2 USC

    Trump says the BLM mural in front of Trump Tower is "a symbol of hate"

    Cool.
    __________________
    Emotional and educational COVID-19 centric episode regarding a DMB fan and Dave himself:
    BONUS: The Landsman Family: Apple Spotify
    Instagram
    Twitter
    Facebook
    Email Us: greystreetpod@gmail.com
    BruceW is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-02-2020, 09:30 AM   #257569
    mthawk07
    In all kinds of weather
     
    mthawk07's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Oct 2005
    Location: Tampa
    Posts: 17,153

    Shows Seen: 19

    Re: *Prompter Thread* (NO Personal Attacks, Trolling, breaking 52 USC 30121 OR 2 USC

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BruceW View Post
    Trump says the BLM mural in front of Trump Tower is "a symbol of hate"

    Cool.

    Nobody has done more for black people!
    __________________
    "And when they've given you their all, some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy banging your heart against some mad bugger's wall."
    mthawk07 is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-02-2020, 09:31 AM   #257570
    Dannyyankou
     
    Dannyyankou's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Dec 2010
    Location: Westchester, NY
    Posts: 23,942

    Shows Seen: 27

    Re: *Prompter Thread* (NO Personal Attacks, Trolling, breaking 52 USC 30121 OR 2 USC

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...73786913599488

    Does Trump really think most Americans care that he’s sticking up for the monuments? If only he cared this much about real people as inanimate ones.
    Dannyyankou is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-02-2020, 09:32 AM   #257571
    barefoot
    More coffee....
     
    barefoot's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Nov 2002
    Location: rochester ny
    Posts: 6,232

    Shows Seen: 60

    Re: *Prompter Thread* (NO Personal Attacks, Trolling, breaking 52 USC 30121 OR 2 USC

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by YouKnowThatItIS View Post
    What makes it even more frustrating is trying to have conversations about these facts with the “reopen now for freedom” crowd gets a person no where. They are so entrenched in this viewpoint that any evidence provided to them such as what you both pointed out is outright dismissed. And I’m not talking about the Trump cult because they are not even worth having discussions about anything with. It’s the normally reasonable people that have this view that frustrate me to no end.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    I will say this, I own commercial property and all of my tenants are small business. Even with govt assistance they were struggling to pay their bills, they needed to get back open to survive. It's a double edged sword, stay closed longer to hopefully be open safely but by that time you could be so far in your business will have to close. Some of these people have every dime they owned invested in their business. Closing could mean losing their houses and life savings. You have to respect that point of view regardless of how frustrating it may be to you.
    __________________
    Pete
    He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lampposts--for support rather than for illumination.
    barefoot is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-02-2020, 09:35 AM   #257572
    BTBaboon
     
    BTBaboon's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Jul 2015
    Location: Quarantined, PrompterThread
    Posts: 28,843

    Shows Seen: 28

    Re: *Prompter Thread* (NO Personal Attacks, Trolling, breaking 52 USC 30121 OR 2 USC

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by barefoot View Post
    I will say this, I own commercial property and all of my tenants are small business. Even with govt assistance they were struggling to pay their bills, they needed to get back open to survive. It's a double edged sword, stay closed longer to hopefully be open safely but by that time you could be so far in your business will have to close. Some of these people have every dime they owned invested in their business. Closing could mean losing their houses and life savings. You have to respect that point of view regardless of how frustrating it may be to you.
    The thing is, though, the Fed and Congress have (and have the ability to continue/expand) provided support for business to keep them whole in the interim.


    Mortgages/Rent freezes should have been part of the first stimulus. It would have taken significant pressure off of businesses to try to rush to reopen, and would have ensure a more stable recovery.
    __________________
    The Vinyl Farm: Instagram | Blog

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ShotgunDMB
    You probably know more about this stuff than I do.
    BTBaboon is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-02-2020, 09:38 AM   #257573
    BruceW
     
    BruceW's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Apr 2005
    Location: FLA
    Posts: 29,952

    Shows Seen: 49

    Re: *Prompter Thread* (NO Personal Attacks, Trolling, breaking 52 USC 30121 OR 2 USC

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dannyyankou View Post
    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...73786913599488

    Does Trump really think most Americans care that he’s sticking up for the monuments? If only he cared this much about real people as inanimate ones.

    I mean it was already against the law to deface a statue or monument.....he’s acting like he INVENTED THE LAW!!! LAW AND ORDER!!!
    __________________
    Emotional and educational COVID-19 centric episode regarding a DMB fan and Dave himself:
    BONUS: The Landsman Family: Apple Spotify
    Instagram
    Twitter
    Facebook
    Email Us: greystreetpod@gmail.com
    BruceW is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-02-2020, 09:38 AM   #257574
    daveshookme
    Altuve wore a wire
     
    daveshookme's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Jun 2009
    Location: online
    Posts: 55,139

    Shows Seen: 46

    Re: *Prompter Thread* (NO Personal Attacks, Trolling, breaking 52 USC 30121 OR 2 USC

    Ghislaine Maxwell has been arrested by the FBI.
    __________________
    Tape Cover Artwork
    Twitter
    100 Day election predictions

    #LetBrettBang

    Last edited by daveshookme; 07-02-2020 at 09:42 AM.
    daveshookme is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-02-2020, 09:39 AM   #257575
    barefoot
    More coffee....
     
    barefoot's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Nov 2002
    Location: rochester ny
    Posts: 6,232

    Shows Seen: 60

    Re: *Prompter Thread* (NO Personal Attacks, Trolling, breaking 52 USC 30121 OR 2 USC

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BTBaboon View Post
    The thing is, though, the Fed and Congress have (and have the ability to continue/expand) provided support for business to keep them whole in the interim.


    Mortgages/Rent freezes should have been part of the first stimulus. It would have taken significant pressure off of businesses to try to rush to reopen, and would have ensure a more stable recovery.
    Agreed, I think the PPP program was good, had some flaws but overall good. I think they should have put in provisions for land lords, like myself, to be able to give direct assistance to them as well. All my bills kept coming, mortgage , upkeep , taxes, repairs etc. I think it should have been a 6-8 month program really, opening is one thing, making up for lost time in a soft economy is another.
    __________________
    Pete
    He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lampposts--for support rather than for illumination.
    barefoot is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-02-2020, 09:39 AM   #257576
    DMBstandUP1984
    for a healthier option.
     
    DMBstandUP1984's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Dec 2005
    Posts: 58,848

    Shows Seen: 33

    Re: *Prompter Thread* (NO Personal Attacks, Trolling, breaking 52 USC 30121 OR 2 USC

    Ohhh Trump going to be on tv in a few mins.
    __________________
    What I like about cowboy hats is, they seem to really protect you from the sun and progressive ideas.- Joe List
    DMBstandUP1984 is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-02-2020, 09:40 AM   #257577
    daveshookme
    Altuve wore a wire
     
    daveshookme's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Jun 2009
    Location: online
    Posts: 55,139

    Shows Seen: 46

    Re: *Prompter Thread* (NO Personal Attacks, Trolling, breaking 52 USC 30121 OR 2 USC

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BTBaboon View Post
    The thing is, though, the Fed and Congress have (and have the ability to continue/expand) provided support for business to keep them whole in the interim.


    Mortgages/Rent freezes should have been part of the first stimulus. It would have taken significant pressure off of businesses to try to rush to reopen, and would have ensure a more stable recovery.

    I’m on my phone and can’t look but I’m positive we were all bringing this up back then. You cannot leave it up to the business to decide. You’re going to harm the employees, and you’re going to increase cases.
    __________________
    Tape Cover Artwork
    Twitter
    100 Day election predictions

    #LetBrettBang
    daveshookme is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-02-2020, 09:40 AM   #257578
    TheLastStop123
     
    TheLastStop123's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Nov 2007
    Location: Raleigh, NC
    Posts: 13,100

    Shows Seen: 35

    Re: *Prompter Thread* (NO Personal Attacks, Trolling, breaking 52 USC 30121 OR 2 USC

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by barefoot View Post
    I will say this, I own commercial property and all of my tenants are small business. Even with govt assistance they were struggling to pay their bills, they needed to get back open to survive. It's a double edged sword, stay closed longer to hopefully be open safely but by that time you could be so far in your business will have to close. Some of these people have every dime they owned invested in their business. Closing could mean losing their houses and life savings. You have to respect that point of view regardless of how frustrating it may be to you.
    which is exactly why we should have allowed temporary mortgage & rent freezes for everyone.

    Edit: I see my guy BTB already ahead of me
    __________________
    Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by FromTheMorning View Post
    Antsmarching.org: Came for the DMBc, stayed for the nDMBc.

    Last edited by TheLastStop123; 07-02-2020 at 09:42 AM.
    TheLastStop123 is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-02-2020, 09:41 AM   #257579
    YouKnowThatItIS
    Go Bucks!
     
    YouKnowThatItIS's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Aug 2009
    Location: Milwaukee, WI
    Posts: 2,863

    Shows Seen: 124

    Re: *Prompter Thread* (NO Personal Attacks, Trolling, breaking 52 USC 30121 OR 2 USC

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by barefoot View Post
    I will say this, I own commercial property and all of my tenants are small business. Even with govt assistance they were struggling to pay their bills, they needed to get back open to survive. It's a double edged sword, stay closed longer to hopefully be open safely but by that time you could be so far in your business will have to close. Some of these people have every dime they owned invested in their business. Closing could mean losing their houses and life savings. You have to respect that point of view regardless of how frustrating it may be to you.

    I do respect that point of view as I have many friends in these situations. But it is short term thinking vs long term thinking. Reopening to soon is likely to have much longer and more devastating effects on the economy and people’s livelihoods. The government has the ability to keep us all above water until we had the virus under control.

    The part that frustrates me is you can’t even introduce evidence that contradicts their point of view on this subject without it turning into a shit show. I don’t mind the point of view as I have the mental ability to see multiple sides of a subject. But a good many of them refuse to accept any evidence contrary to their mindset.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    __________________
    Fear the Deer - Go Bucks
    YouKnowThatItIS is offline   Reply With Quote
    Old 07-02-2020, 09:42 AM   #257580
    DMBstandUP1984
    for a healthier option.
     
    DMBstandUP1984's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Dec 2005
    Posts: 58,848

    Shows Seen: 33

    Re: *Prompter Thread* (NO Personal Attacks, Trolling, breaking 52 USC 30121 OR 2 USC

    President has this morning's jobs report; claims it "proves our economy is roaring back"


    https://twitter.com/westwingreport/s...773062147?s=21
    __________________
    What I like about cowboy hats is, they seem to really protect you from the sun and progressive ideas.- Joe List
    DMBstandUP1984 is offline   Reply With Quote
    Reply

    Thread Tools
    Display Modes

    Posting Rules
    You may not post new threads
    You may not post replies
    You may not post attachments
    You may not edit your posts

    BB code is On
    Smilies are On
    [IMG] code is Off
    HTML code is Off

    Forum Jump


    Want to hide all ads on Ants? Click here

    All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:08 AM.


    Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
    Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.


       
    Site LinksAbout AntsAnts MobileTweet Tweet
    Home
    Ants+
    Tour Central
    Search bar
    RSS Feeds
    About Us
    Contact Us
    The Ants Blog
    Advertise on Ants
    Privacy Policy
    Ants on your cell phone
    iAnts
    mobile news
    mobile setlists
    antslive!
    Ants' Twitter
    DMBLive Twitter
    Ants Facebook
    Ants Instagram
    Matt's Twitter
    Joe's Twitter