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Old 12-23-2016, 04:49 PM   #181
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Re: AFTW overrated because of Lillywhite?

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Haven't listened to it in a while but for me basically the middle of the album is a huge lull that doesn't really work well after a strong start and finish. Although, when I say strong finish I should not that over time I found that Drunken Soldier became pretty disappointing to me. Musically very good but one song where the lyrical content is just drastically out of place given the scale and grandeur of the instrumentation. The theme and generally weak lyrics just doesn't fit with that epic (for lack of a better word) sound the rest of the track presents.
Very well said...this is spot on.
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  • Old 12-29-2016, 01:02 AM   #182
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    Re: AFTW overrated because of Lillywhite?

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    Definitely not.

    I personally still think this is a great record, which shows what this "version" of DMB can do.

    The weakness, from my perspective, still comes from Dave. Musically, this album is the tits, save for Rooftop. Blech.
    People aren't beating down management's door to release '12-'16 shows with heavy AFTW content in the setlist. How else do you explain that?
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    Old 01-03-2017, 04:41 PM   #183
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    People aren't beating down management's door to release '12-'16 shows with heavy AFTW content in the setlist. How else do you explain that?
    I agreed with you. It is definitely not universally loved.

    However, I like it.
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    Old 01-03-2017, 04:45 PM   #184
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    Re: AFTW overrated because of Lillywhite?

    i'd argue there weren't many shows with heavy aftw content to begin with.
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    Old 01-04-2017, 10:45 AM   #185
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    Re: AFTW overrated because of Lillywhite?

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    i'd argue there weren't many shows with heavy aftw content to begin with.
    This is true. Really, the only shows heavy with that material were from Fall/Winter 2012. And those shows seemed pretty awful, setlist wise.
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    Old 01-30-2017, 11:08 AM   #186
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    Re: AFTW overrated because of Lillywhite?

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    I would love to hear Broken Things open a show.
    I would have to agree. One of my favorites! The recent warehouse version is great too. The one is a played quite often.
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    Old 02-03-2017, 04:52 PM   #187
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    Re: AFTW overrated because of Lillywhite?

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    People aren't beating down management's door to release '12-'16 shows with heavy AFTW content in the setlist. How else do you explain that?
    I like Big Whiskey, but I understand many others do not. But you can argue that those songs are included '12-'16 and could be a reason why. There's the Alpine show from '12 that people have been pining after, then there's the Camden show from '13 that people also want released, as well as Hartford show from that year. Actually, there's a handful of shows from '13 I've seen tossed around, and that was the first full summer tour after AFTW was released. I'd also argue that LT 29 was one of the better received Live Trax in the past few years, and that comes from 2013. I don't think people not "beating down managements door to release '12-'16 shows" has much to do with Away From the World at all. If you're going to say '12-'16, then you may as well lump '05-'11 in there too. Aside from a show here and there from the Caravan tour, maybe one or two shows from '06, '08 and '10 I don't see many shows from '05-'16 being requested too much. But there are shows here and there. But I think that's mainly to do with the fact that people have grown tired of the Big Whiskey tunes and the heavier sound of the band. If anything the tunes from Away From the World sound more like DMB than anything they've released in the past 10 years.

    The problem is the band playing songs like Grey Street at warp speed and with no dynamics. People complain about variety in the set lists as well, the verdict on Rashawn is still pretty split, people have grown tired of Tim Reynolds, the 2015 songs didn't hit very hard and then there's the fact that you can barely hear anything Boyd plays unless he's soloing. So to blame the lack of requests for Live Trax that come from the more recent years on Away From the World is completely unfair in my opinion. There's MANY other factors at play. Note that these are not necessarily my opinions, but what I've seen around the boards over the years.
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    Old 02-05-2017, 03:23 AM   #188
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    Re: AFTW overrated because of Lillywhite?

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    people have grown tired of Tim Reynolds
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    Old 02-05-2017, 08:02 AM   #189
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    Just to be clear, that's not necessarily my opinion, but people say it all the time on the boards.
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    Old 03-23-2018, 12:47 PM   #190
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    Re: AFTW overrated because of Lillywhite?

    Absolutely overrated.

    Lillywhite wanted them to work as hard as they did on AFTW as they did when they were creating UTTAD, Crash and BTCS.

    The band *cough* Dave *cough* told Lillywhite to go fuck himself.

    And voila!
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    Re: AFTW overrated because of Lillywhite?

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    Absolutely overrated.

    Lillywhite wanted them to work as hard as they did on AFTW as they did when they were creating UTTAD, Crash and BTCS.

    The band *cough* Dave *cough* told Lillywhite to go fuck himself.

    And voila!
    Wow, that must have been awesome to have studio access during the recording sessions. Any other tidbits you can share? What else happened?
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    Old 04-05-2018, 06:34 PM   #192
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    Re: AFTW overrated because of Lillywhite?

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    Absolutely overrated.
    Counterpoint: It's not.
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    Old 05-20-2018, 02:45 PM   #193
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    Re: AFTW overrated because of Lillywhite?

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    Counterpoint: It's not.
    Itís at the very top of the second tier DMB albums.
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