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Old 09-13-2012, 02:58 PM   #121
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Broken Things
The Riff
Drunken Soldier
Snow Outside
Gaucho
Rooftop
If Only
Mercy
Belly Belly Nice
Belly Full
Sweet
Now:

The Riff (+1)
Drunken Soldier (+1)
Broken Things (-2)
Snow Outside (0)
Gaucho (0)
Belly Belly Nice (+3)
Mercy (+1)
Rooftop (-2)
If Only (-2)
Belly Full (0)
Sweet (0)
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    The Riff
    Drunken Soldier
    Sweet
    If Only
    Broken Things
    Belly Belly Nice
    Mercy
    Gaucho
    Rooftop
    Belly Full
    Snow Outside
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    Old 09-13-2012, 10:14 PM   #123
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    Snow Outside last, really?
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    Old 09-13-2012, 10:31 PM   #124
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    Tough even after a week+ of listening as I like all the songs--yet there are few that really stand out for me. But taking a stab at it anyway.

    Broken Things
    The Riff
    Snow Outside
    Drunken Soldier
    Sweet
    Rooftop
    Mercy
    Gaucho
    If Only
    Belly Belly Nice
    Belly Full
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    Old 09-13-2012, 11:38 PM   #125
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    Belly Belly Nice
    Sweet
    Drunken Soldier
    If Only
    The Riff
    Broken Things
    Mercy
    Gaucho
    Belly Full
    Snow Outside
    Rooftop
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    Old 09-14-2012, 12:12 AM   #126
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    Drunken Soldier
    Belly Belly Nice
    The Riff
    Gaucho
    Snow Outside
    Rooftop
    Broken Things
    Sweet
    If Only
    Mercy
    Belly Full
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    Old 09-14-2012, 12:32 AM   #127
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    early impressions:

    1. Drunken Soldier
    2. Snow Outside
    3. The Riff
    4. BBN
    5. If Only
    6. Mercy
    7. Gaucho
    8. Broken Things
    9. Belly Full
    10. Rooftop



    11. Sweet
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    Old 09-14-2012, 09:10 AM   #128
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    Drunken Soldier
    Snow Outside

    The Riff
    Broken Things
    If Only

    Sweet
    Mercy
    Belly Belly Nice

    Gaucho
    Belly Full

    Rooftop
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    Old 09-14-2012, 11:53 AM   #129
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    Drunken Soldier
    Snow Outside

    The Riff
    Broken Things
    If Only

    Sweet
    Mercy
    Belly Belly Nice

    Gaucho
    Belly Full

    Rooftop
    I Pretty much agree with these song groupings although I would move belly full up one notch and lump Gaucho with Rooftop as the two worst.
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    Old 09-14-2012, 01:32 PM   #130
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    Long-time lurker, first-time poster. Hereís how Iíd rank them:

    1) Snow Outside
    2) Drunken Soldier

    3) Broken Things
    4) Rooftop


    5) The Riff
    6) Mercy
    7) Gaucho
    8) Sweet


    9) Belly Full
    10) Belly Belly Nice
    11) If Only

    A few points Iíd make:

    1) I donít care for If Only, but my girlfriend Ė a big DMB fan, but for incredibly different reasons Ė loves it. Her favorite songís Grey Street, and she loves stuff like You and Me that most of the people on this board, myself included, skip on albums and use for bathroom breaks live. Point is, itís a song thatís going to appeal a lot more to some newer fans, or those who like DMBís more radio-friendly stuff. I canít fault them too much for that, even though Iíll probably be skipping it myself.

    2) There are so many songs where it feels like theyíre really close, but canít quite get there. Rooftop is a solid example. Itís got a great bridge, the verses are neat, but that chorus is a total momentum-killer. I get what they were going for with it, but to me, it doesnít work Ė but the potential was there. Another good example might be Gaucho. Some neat ideas there, but that chorus, and a childrenís choir? Ugh.

    3) Thereís the three-song run of Mercy, Gaucho and Sweet. On their own, I donít care for any of those songs. But on the album, thereís something about how they run together that really flows for me, and makes each of them quite a bit easier to stomach. Thatís probably why Iíve got them grouped together the way I do.

    4) Some of the lyrics are really mediocre. The ďJack and JillĒ bit in Belly Belly Nice is obnoxious. The ďchange the gameĒ phrase in The Riff strikes me as a lazy bit of writing in an otherwise decent song. ďOh, my love, my heart is set on you, set on youĒ in Broken Things doesnít do it for me. Again, itís just mediocre Ė thereís nothing unique or interesting to it, and thatís why it falls short of what Iíve come to expect from this band.

    Overall, I would just say, itís great to cross paths with the work of an artist that really speaks to you. That, though, doesnít mean that you and the artist are living life on the same parallel path. This album doesnít do for me anything close to what the Big Three did. That said, I still enjoy it. Iím going to keep listening Ė at least for a little while longer. Iíll be eager to see how some of these songs develop live. Over time, I hope Iíll come to love some of them. Until then, Iíll give this a few more listens Ė and then Iíll turn on something like Live at Red Rocks í95.
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    Long-time lurker, first-time poster. Here’s how I’d rank them:

    1) Snow Outside
    2) Drunken Soldier

    3) Broken Things
    4) Rooftop


    5) The Riff
    6) Mercy
    7) Gaucho
    8) Sweet


    9) Belly Full
    10) Belly Belly Nice
    11) If Only

    A few points I’d make:

    1) I don’t care for If Only, but my girlfriend – a big DMB fan, but for incredibly different reasons – loves it. Her favorite song’s Grey Street, and she loves stuff like You and Me that most of the people on this board, myself included, skip on albums and use for bathroom breaks live. Point is, it’s a song that’s going to appeal a lot more to some newer fans, or those who like DMB’s more radio-friendly stuff. I can’t fault them too much for that, even though I’ll probably be skipping it myself.

    2) There are so many songs where it feels like they’re really close, but can’t quite get there. Rooftop is a solid example. It’s got a great bridge, the verses are neat, but that chorus is a total momentum-killer. I get what they were going for with it, but to me, it doesn’t work – but the potential was there. Another good example might be Gaucho. Some neat ideas there, but that chorus, and a children’s choir? Ugh.

    3) There’s the three-song run of Mercy, Gaucho and Sweet. On their own, I don’t care for any of those songs. But on the album, there’s something about how they run together that really flows for me, and makes each of them quite a bit easier to stomach. That’s probably why I’ve got them grouped together the way I do.

    4) Some of the lyrics are really mediocre. The “Jack and Jill” bit in Belly Belly Nice is obnoxious. The “change the game” phrase in The Riff strikes me as a lazy bit of writing in an otherwise decent song. “Oh, my love, my heart is set on you, set on you” in Broken Things doesn’t do it for me. Again, it’s just mediocre – there’s nothing unique or interesting to it, and that’s why it falls short of what I’ve come to expect from this band.

    Overall, I would just say, it’s great to cross paths with the work of an artist that really speaks to you. That, though, doesn’t mean that you and the artist are living life on the same parallel path. This album doesn’t do for me anything close to what the Big Three did. That said, I still enjoy it. I’m going to keep listening – at least for a little while longer. I’ll be eager to see how some of these songs develop live. Over time, I hope I’ll come to love some of them. Until then, I’ll give this a few more listens – and then I’ll turn on something like Live at Red Rocks ’95.
    Awesome 1st post! I definitely agree with you on your 2nd point. Rooftop and Gaucho could have been the best songs on the album if the chorus lyrics were better. The music is there, but the chorus lyrics kill the songs, IMO.

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    Old 09-14-2012, 03:05 PM   #132
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    Long-time lurker, first-time poster. Hereís how Iíd rank them:

    1) Snow Outside
    2) Drunken Soldier

    3) Broken Things
    4) Rooftop


    5) The Riff
    6) Mercy
    7) Gaucho
    8) Sweet


    9) Belly Full
    10) Belly Belly Nice
    11) If Only

    A few points Iíd make:

    1) I donít care for If Only, but my girlfriend Ė a big DMB fan, but for incredibly different reasons Ė loves it. Her favorite songís Grey Street, and she loves stuff like You and Me that most of the people on this board, myself included, skip on albums and use for bathroom breaks live. Point is, itís a song thatís going to appeal a lot more to some newer fans, or those who like DMBís more radio-friendly stuff. I canít fault them too much for that, even though Iíll probably be skipping it myself.

    2) There are so many songs where it feels like theyíre really close, but canít quite get there. Rooftop is a solid example. Itís got a great bridge, the verses are neat, but that chorus is a total momentum-killer. I get what they were going for with it, but to me, it doesnít work Ė but the potential was there. Another good example might be Gaucho. Some neat ideas there, but that chorus, and a childrenís choir? Ugh.

    3) Thereís the three-song run of Mercy, Gaucho and Sweet. On their own, I donít care for any of those songs. But on the album, thereís something about how they run together that really flows for me, and makes each of them quite a bit easier to stomach. Thatís probably why Iíve got them grouped together the way I do.

    4) Some of the lyrics are really mediocre. The ďJack and JillĒ bit in Belly Belly Nice is obnoxious. The ďchange the gameĒ phrase in The Riff strikes me as a lazy bit of writing in an otherwise decent song. ďOh, my love, my heart is set on you, set on youĒ in Broken Things doesnít do it for me. Again, itís just mediocre Ė thereís nothing unique or interesting to it, and thatís why it falls short of what Iíve come to expect from this band.

    Overall, I would just say, itís great to cross paths with the work of an artist that really speaks to you. That, though, doesnít mean that you and the artist are living life on the same parallel path. This album doesnít do for me anything close to what the Big Three did. That said, I still enjoy it. Iím going to keep listening Ė at least for a little while longer. Iíll be eager to see how some of these songs develop live. Over time, I hope Iíll come to love some of them. Until then, Iíll give this a few more listens Ė and then Iíll turn on something like Live at Red Rocks í95.
    You really said a lot of things that I was thinking. Especially about Rooftop. The first listen through I was so excited because the beginning through the first verse reminded me of DIDO or at least something pre-Everyday. Then it just fell off. Snow Outside and Drunken Soldier are both good solid songs and I feel this whole album could have done with more work on the lyrics side. Musically, it's very strong, IMHO, and that'll do for me for now.

    I can't rank them 1-11 just yet but I will group songs together in order of staying power for me

    Snow Outside
    Drunken Soldier
    Rooftop
    Broken Things

    Belly Songs
    Sweet
    Riff

    Mercy
    If Only
    Gaucho


    Aside from the kids part, Gaucho isn't a terrible song. This is almost like ranking BTCS for me and saying I would put DDTW or Stay last.
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    Snow Outside
    Sweet
    Broken Things
    Drunken Soldier
    Belly Belly Nice
    Mercy
    Gaucho
    The Riff
    Rooftop
    If Only
    Belly Full

    I enjoy them all though, love this album.
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    Old 09-14-2012, 09:05 PM   #134
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    My ranking is kinda cracked out. Just go with it. It has also been evolving the last couple days, so this may not hold up for long.

    Gaucho (without lyrics)
    The Riff
    Drunken Soldier (until the outro)
    Snow Outside
    Rooftop
    Broken Things
    Drunken Soldier (outro)
    Mercy
    Sweet
    Belly Belly Nice
    If Only*
    Gaucho (with lyrics)

    The only thing I don't know where to put is Belly Full. I really and truly love that song but I can't rank it on this album because it sounds like it belongs on a Dave solo CD. I don't even know where to put it. To me it's like trying to rank an episode of "Parks and Recreation" in a list of "Breaking Bad" episodes -- both great, but for very different reasons. I just can't do it.

    *I've heard a couple people say this has a Sugar Will vibe to it and I just don't get that at all.
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    My ranking is kinda cracked out. Just go with it. It has also been evolving the last couple days, so this may not hold up for long.

    Gaucho (without lyrics)
    The Riff
    Drunken Soldier (until the outro)
    Snow Outside
    Rooftop
    Broken Things
    Drunken Soldier (outro)
    Mercy
    Sweet
    Belly Belly Nice
    If Only*
    Gaucho (with lyrics)

    The only thing I don't know where to put is Belly Full. I really and truly love that song but I can't rank it on this album because it sounds like it belongs on a Dave solo CD. I don't even know where to put it. To me it's like trying to rank an episode of "Parks and Recreation" in a list of "Breaking Bad" episodes -- both great, but for very different reasons. I just can't do it.

    *I've heard a couple people say this has a Sugar Will vibe to it and I just don't get that at all.
    In terms of having a repetitive feel to it, I agree it is a lot like Sugar Will.
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    Old 09-14-2012, 11:26 PM   #136
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    Belly Belly Full (Brings me to another place... similar to Tripping Billies or Grey Street for me... Is it the most developed and intricate song on the album??? No, But it is the song that I enjoy the most on every listen.

    Broken Things
    Snow Outside
    The Riff
    Drunken Soldier (these four would fit easily onto a 1990's album. Obviously the style is a little bit different now so they wouldn't exactly fit but it's been 10 years since I've thought wow... that song could have been on Crash or BTCS and I feel that way about these four songs. Lyrically The Riff is exceptional and I particularly love the style on Broken Things

    Mercy
    Sweet (I absolutely love these two songs and I think it's great that I have songs I LOVE that I'm ranking in the middle of the album. I went back and listened to You and Me today and the difference between the emotion and musical creativity of the 2 AFTW songs and You and Me is night and day. Mercy could be this album's Crash into Me. Honestly if that song came out now I wouldn't LOVE it on the album but every time I listen to it it gets better and better

    Belly Full (Just beautiful... obviously it's a tiny song so not going to be super highly ranked but I'm glad it's on the album)

    Gaucho (I wonder if I would be higher on this song if I hadn't already listened to it 50+ times before getting the album)

    If Only
    Rooftop (for me these two kind of miss the mark. I'm still going to give them a chance to grow on me but these two strike me more as Stand Up era songs (on album or around the release of the album). The are not terrible and I enjoy listening to them but I am not blown away by anything going on and I think they end up being more groove style rockish songs that don't inspire me to really listen. I hope they grow on me but I guess if that's the worst I can say about the album I really have nothing to complain about.

    Hope you enjoyed the rankings!!!
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    Old 09-15-2012, 05:59 AM   #137
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    Snow Outside last, really?
    Yeah...I don't know what it is. I've listened to it a handful of times now and I enjoy the music and the light "hey, hey, hey's" near the end parts of the song, but i'm not feeling the melody or dave's voice on this one. Might've preferred it as an instrumental?
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    Snow Outside
    The Riff
    Drunken Soldier
    If Only
    Belly Belly Nice
    Sweet
    Gaucho
    Rooftop
    Broken Things
    Mercy
    Belly Full

    this is kind of hard though, because they are all so good. I mightīve just as well rated these songs completely differently.
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    Old 09-15-2012, 04:50 PM   #139
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    1) Snow Outside
    2) Drunken Soldier
    3) Broken Things
    4) The Riff
    5) Rooftop

    Easily the top 5 if you ask me
    My thoughts are similar but my top 5 goes like this:

    1) The Riff
    2) Broken Things
    3) Rooftop (I cannot get over 2:27-2:57, seriously gives me chills and I wish the whole song was like that)
    4 )Drunken Soldier
    5) Snow Outside
    6) Goucho
    7) If Only
    8) Sweet
    9) Belly Belly Nice
    10) Mercy
    11) Belly Full
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    Belly Belly- Just love this song. Im always a fan of the positive up beat songs
    Drunken Soldier- Lived up to the hype, only gonna get better live
    Snow Outside- Really Really liked this. everyones talking about boyd, but how about all the great riffs dave has on the album.
    The Riff- Loved it. The part at the end where it gets soft and then abruptly builds up again is amazing
    Broken Things- The lines where he says broken things have to be some of my favorite ever
    Rooftop- sounds like Fool to Think and I want you(shes so heavy) by the beatles had a baby to me
    Sweet- Made me like it even more on the album. Once you understand the song, thats when you love it.
    Gaucho- If i heard it today for the first time it would be higher
    Belly Full- Another Beatles Sound alike
    If Only-The chorus will always be stuck in my head
    Mercy- The fact that mercy is my least favorite shows how good the album is

    not a song i dont like
    My original rankings after 1 listen.

    My new rankings

    Drunken Soldier+1
    Snow Outside+1
    Belly Belly Nice-2
    The Riff+0
    Broken Things+0
    Sweet+1
    Gaucho+1
    Rooftop-2
    If Only+1
    Belly Full-1
    Mercy+0

    Not much difference. Still absolutely love every song on the album
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    Snow Outside
    The Riff
    Drunken Soldier
    Broken Things

    Gaucho
    Sweet
    Mercy
    Belly Belly Nice

    If Only
    Rooftop
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    Snow Outside
    Broken Things
    Belly Belly Nice
    Drunken Soldier
    The Riff
    Mercy
    Rooftop
    Gaucho
    If Only
    Sweet
    Belly Full

    Gaucho/If Only/Sweet/Belly Full being last does not mean I don't love them. They are awesome songs. Honestly, if they played the whole album in one concert I wouldn't have a complaint. Snow Outside and Broken Things keep changing as my favorite song off the album.
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    Old 09-16-2012, 11:01 AM   #143
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    This is the polarizing album in DMB history. Insanely differing opinions on almost every song..
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    This is the polarizing album in DMB history. Insanely differing opinions on almost every song..
    Just thinking the same thing after reading some of these rankings/reviews. Almost every single person has a different opinion on each song.
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    Old 09-16-2012, 12:04 PM   #145
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    Exactly. WithBig whiskey you basically had everyone liking lithog, squirm, shake me, why I am and baby blue. They disliked dive in and you and me and thought the other songs were just ok.
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    Old 09-16-2012, 03:54 PM   #146
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    Drunken Soldier
    Belly Belly Nice
    The Riff
    Gaucho
    Rooftop
    Snow Outside
    Broken Things
    If Only
    Belly Full
    Sweet
    Mercy

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    Old 09-16-2012, 03:58 PM   #147
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    On day one:
    ---Awesome---
    01. Rooftop
    02. Drunken Soldier
    03. Belly Belly Nice
    ---Good---
    04. Gaucho
    05. Snow Outside
    ---Okay---
    06. If Only
    07. Broken Things
    08. Belly Full
    ---Bad---
    09. Mercy
    10. The Riff
    ---Terrible---
    11. Sweet

    Today:
    ---Awesome---
    01. Drunken Soldier (+1)
    02. Rooftop (-1)
    03. Belly Belly Nice (no change)
    04. Snow Outside (+1, up to awesome)
    ---Good---
    05. The Riff (+5, up to good)
    06. Gaucho (-2)
    07. If Only (-1, up to good)
    08. Broken Things (-1, up to good)
    ---Okay---
    09. Belly Full (-1)
    ---Bad---
    10. Mercy (-1)
    ---Terrible---
    11. Sweet (no change)
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    Old 09-16-2012, 10:56 PM   #148
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    Re: ***Official Rank the AFTW Songs Thread***

    After about 10 listens:

    1) Belly Belly Nice
    2) The Riff
    3) Mercy
    4) Broken Things
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    5) Drunken Soldier
    6) Snow Outside

    The rest all suck, but Sweet is definitely at the bottom and probably the worst song ever released on a DMB album
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    Old 09-17-2012, 10:55 AM   #149
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    Re: ***Official Rank the AFTW Songs Thread***

    after many listens now:
    Snow Outside
    Mercy
    Broken Things
    Rooftop
    Belly Full
    If Only
    Gaucho
    Drunken Soldier
    belly Belly Nice
    The Riff
    Sweet
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    Old 09-17-2012, 11:23 AM   #150
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    Re: ***Official Rank the AFTW Songs Thread***

    September 17th:

    Broken Things
    Snow Outside
    The Riff
    Belly Belly Nice
    Mercy
    Rooftop
    Drunken Soldier
    Sweet
    Belly Full
    Gaucho
    If Only
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