Rate the band's sound now

[tyler3440]

Originally Posted by snow1868

To me, and that's the important part of my statement here, the me part, it's not DMB.

What do you want? A violin?

[ExistenceNow]

I would like a violin, Tyler. I would like a violin very much.

[snow1868]

Originally Posted by tyler3440

What do you want? A violin?

Yes, that would be a start. Losing Rashawn would be another help.

[tyler3440]

I think the argument that dmb is a dmb cover band is a bad one. Those people should go Listen to an actual dmb cover band. Those bands are usually pretty awful. Then when real dmb is done touring everyone will be complaining that they didn't see real dmb enough in the later years.

No offense if your in a dmb cover band

[tyler3440]

Originally Posted by snow1868

Yes, that would be a start. Losing Rashawn would be another help.

I agree with losing RR

[crashintonickdm]

Originally Posted by tyler3440

I think the argument that dmb is a dmb cover band is a bad one. Those people should go Listen to an actual dmb cover band. Those bands are usually pretty awful. Then when real dmb is done touring everyone will be complaining that they didn't see real dmb enough in the later years.

No offense if your in a dmb cover band

We’re very close to this being Dave and friends

[CrazyEasy354]

Originally Posted by DMBCardinal

The majority like the sound better according to this poll. To be fair it is only comparing this year to the 14-16 years, so this poll doesn't include the sound you are talking about when the band started. I would rather have no violin at all then have a violin player that makes you cringe because he is so bad. Now, if they brought in a competent violinist next year I think they would sound even better. I don't know if you've heard shows this year, but the electric isn't as loud and Rashawn has toned it down on the squeaking. They are playing songs at a better tempo as well. The past several tours it seemed like they were rushing through every song. This year is definitely a step in the right direction.

This is spot on

I'm relatively newer here, but a majority of the posts I see from you are agreeable, IMO.

[KClaw]

DMB has always been "Dave and Friends" if you must. Dave is what makes this band. I love the talented musicians he has been surrounded by along the way but it doesn't work without Dave. Period. Again I find myself sounding like a broken record...but the band hasn't sounded like 90's DMB since well, the fucking 90's. They have had members and guests rotate in and out for various reasons and their sound is always changing because they are people and they change. I still like, no love, their sound. Others do not. And in my opinion that's too bad because their shows still kick ass and the band always brings it. Not saying I think all of their songs are a 10 and perfect just stating they are in a good place and I like their sound still.

[bubba40]

Originally Posted by Cptn. Monkeyman

Yeah but in the Jazzy songs, the trumpet is amazing imo. They’re making #41 jazzy again and I love it. And that Seek Up intro is jazzy as ever.

Seek Up intro is the best thing this band is doing right now. Well, that or the Rapunzel outro. Or anytime Jeff and Rashawn are trading solos or improvising together.

Rashawn Ross and Jeff Coffin are both freaking spectacular and this band is preposterously blessed to have both.

[tannersarver]

After listening to gorge ‘16 on Sirius, I think this year’s sound is far better. Much tighter, energetic, and you can tell they are just having a blast.

[Antiramie]

I think the variable that creates the biggest divide is there not being a violin...at least from what I can gather by all the comments so far. I'm still fairly surprised by the "much better" votes. Personally, I never thought the band sounded subpar in 2014-2016. And I would have thought losing the violin would have impacted opinions more negatively. Even with the band supposedly sounding tighter and what not, I personally am still having a hard time justifying seeing them without a violin on stage. Even with the great tour debuts as of late, I'm still thinking those songs would just sound incomplete. Though I'm tempted to buy tickets just out of sheer curiosity at this point and use whatever opinion I have of that show as a litmus test for future tours.

[dontdrink36]

Originally Posted by Antiramie

I think the variable that creates the biggest divide is there not being a violin...at least from what I can gather by all the comments so far. I'm still fairly surprised by the "much better" votes. Personally, I never thought the band sounded subpar in 2014-2016. And I would have thought losing the violin would have impacted opinions more negatively. Even with the band supposedly sounding tighter and what not, I personally am still having a hard time justifying seeing them without a violin on stage. Even with the great tour debuts as of late, I'm still thinking those songs would just sound incomplete. Though I'm tempted to buy tickets just out of sheer curiosity at this point and use whatever opinion I have of that show as a litmus test for future tours.

They sound great and it's a unique dmb experience compared to the past. Well worth seeing your local show. Go enjoy a band you love that sounds really good right now. Go into it expecting nothing more than that and you'll be pleasantly surprised at how great it is.

[snow1868]

Originally Posted by Antiramie

I think the variable that creates the biggest divide is there not being a violin...at least from what I can gather by all the comments so far. I'm still fairly surprised by the "much better" votes. Personally, I never thought the band sounded subpar in 2014-2016. And I would have thought losing the violin would have impacted opinions more negatively. Even with the band supposedly sounding tighter and what not, I personally am still having a hard time justifying seeing them without a violin on stage. Even with the great tour debuts as of late, I'm still thinking those songs would just sound incomplete. Though I'm tempted to buy tickets just out of sheer curiosity at this point and use whatever opinion I have of that show as a litmus test for future tours.

Originally Posted by dontdrink36

They sound great and it's a unique dmb experience compared to the past. Well worth seeing your local show. Go enjoy a band you love that sounds really good right now. Go into it expecting nothing more than that and you'll be pleasantly surprised at how great it is.

Or just watch the free webcast from SPAC this weekend.

[crashintonickdm]

Originally Posted by dontdrink36

They sound great and it's a unique dmb experience compared to the past. Well worth seeing your local show. Go enjoy a band you love that sounds really good right now. Go into it expecting nothing more than that and you'll be pleasantly surprised at how great it is.

When lie in our graves isn’t good live there’s an issue. Camden n2 is tied for worst show I’ve ever seen.

I always go into shows with the indifferent mentality. I won’t with what you said because it doesn’t make any sense.

[comeandsee41]

just listened to Pig, wtf was that? i'd rather never hear that song played full band again then to hear them attempt to cover boyd's intro.

yeah the band's sound is worse IMO

[dontdrink36]

Originally Posted by crashintonickdm

When lie in our graves isn’t good live there’s an issue. Camden n2 is tied for worst show I’ve ever seen.

I always go into shows with the indifferent mentality. I won’t with what you said because it doesn’t make any sense.

What doesn't make sense about seeing a band you love that sounds really good on the tour you'll be attending? I havent heard LIOG except on periscope, but even if it is subpar compared to other versions, it's just one song and it's likely to not be played anyway.

The Deer Creek shows I just attended were up there with most enjoyable I've seen in my 40 shows. It sucks that Camden was subpar this year. I'd still say dmb is worth checking out this year for those fans who are on the fence. That's what I was trying to say. Go see it for yourself and you'll likely be pleasantly surprised.

*you being someone on the fence, not you personally.

[dontdrink36]

Originally Posted by comeandsee41

just listened to Pig, wtf was that? i'd rather never hear that song played full band again then to hear them attempt to cover boyd's intro.

yeah the band's sound is worse IMO

Listening to it again just now and I dont see how you could reach the conclusion of not ever wanting to see it again. It sounded fine. Would I prefer it with a violin? Yes, especially if the violinist played it in tune. But by no means should it be shelved forever without one.

[LetYouDown22]

Yea Pig didn't sound bad at all....actually loved the tempo. But not everyone is going approve of that version, which is fine. Saying it should never be played again like that did give me a solid laugh. The dramatics got me there.

[comeandsee41]

Originally Posted by dontdrink36

Listening to it again just now and I dont see how you could reach the conclusion of not ever wanting to see it again. It sounded fine. Would I prefer it with a violin? Yes, especially if the violinist played it in tune. But by no means should it be shelved forever without one.

because that song is perfect and part of its perfection comes from that violin intro and its use throughout the song. the trumpet sounds silly and just doesnt fit. again, my opinion, but i rather not hear it without a violin. which is dam shame, cause its a top 10 song.

[crashintonickdm]

Originally Posted by dontdrink36

What doesn't make sense about seeing a band you love that sounds really good on the tour you'll be attending? I havent heard LIOG except on periscope, but even if it is subpar compared to other versions, it's just one song and it's likely to not be played anyway.

The Deer Creek shows I just attended were up there with most enjoyable I've seen in my 40 shows. It sucks that Camden was subpar this year. I'd still say dmb is worth checking out this year for those fans who are on the fence. That's what I was trying to say. Go see it for yourself and you'll likely be pleasantly surprised.

*you being someone on the fence, not you personally.

It’s not gonna all the sudden be great because I’m going into it with a not expecting much attitude. Great went out the window when leroi died.

They need a violin. I enjoy buddy. I don’t like rashawns dominant role. Jeff being a prop isn’t good either

[crashintonickdm]

I was impressed with the pace of pig along with the keys behind the band. By no means am I gonna say it was a great performance though.

[mthawk07]

If you were going in fresh to see this band for the first time and had never heard the violin, therefore had no bias on how the songs have sounded in the past, I think you'd have a much better appreciation for what they're doing this year. Unfortunately, none of us can erase our memories of their sound for 25 years, so it's really tough to judge their current sound impartially. It's similar to when Jeff took over for Roi. Jeff is an incredibly talented sax player, but obviously a different style than Roi. If Jeff had been the original sax player and Roi took over, we'd probably be grumbling about Roi's sound after hearing Jeff for almost two decades.

As for me, I really like a lot of the arrangements they've gone with this year, but some of them have fallen flat. Didn't enjoy LIOG without Boyd, but Billies is awesome. I'd have to go back and listen to Pig again, but I don't remember being too taken aback by it the other night. I still think the best thing they've done this year is the reworking of LITHOG.

[LaLaLaLaHey]

Originally Posted by comeandsee41

because that song is perfect and part of its perfection comes from that violin intro and its use throughout the song. the trumpet sounds silly and just doesnt fit. again, my opinion, but i rather not hear it without a violin. which is dam shame, cause its a top 10 song.

Boyd is only audible live during that intro, and a decent portion of the time he screws it up. It's 10 seconds of the song, and we're lucky the riff is still being played at all...

[crashintonickdm]

Originally Posted by mthawk07

If you were going in fresh to see this band for the first time and had never heard the violin, therefore had no bias on how the songs have sounded in the past, I think you'd have a much better appreciation for what they're doing this year. Unfortunately, none of us can erase our memories of their sound for 25 years, so it's really tough to judge their current sound impartially. It's similar to when Jeff took over for Roi. Jeff is an incredibly talented sax player, but obviously a different style than Roi. If Jeff had been the original sax player and Roi took over, we'd probably be grumbling about Roi's sound after hearing Jeff for almost two decades.

As for me, I really like a lot of the arrangements they've gone with this year, but some of them have fallen flat. Didn't enjoy LIOG without Boyd, but Billies is awesome. I'd have to go back and listen to Pig again, but I don't remember being too taken aback by it the other night. I still think the best thing they've done this year is the reworking of LITHOG.

I’m not sure if I’d still gravitate to dmb as closely as I did if it was Jeff. Two factors brought me in. Dave’s voice and lerois horn. Jeff is abrasive but can be smooth when he wants. Even when roi let loose his notes connected with bends and hooks that were soooo smooth. And then obviously you can listen to a song like lover lay down and be wowed

[seanbrutus]

My biggest hope is that the people who complain about DMB will stop going to DMB shows so I can enjoy the band for who they are right now. They have changed and so have I and I'm grateful we've still changed in the same direction. It's not perfect, it never was, and yes I'm happy with RR and I think Buddy is crushing it. I appreciate them taking their legacy by the horns in the light of how much could've been ruined with Boyd. Even as a casual fan the last 8 or so years until recently, it wasn't hard to notice that Boyd gave less and less, and therefore the band gave less and less to him. For a band with so much love to give, it was a noticeable bad energy. I love Boyd and hope he figures himself out, but I am glad he is gone for now.

It amazes me the amount of people on here who hate on everything past a certain point with the band. Why exactly? They've been a different band almost as long as they were the original lineup. Why continue with your own personal negativity to something you claim to love? It's ok to move on, and hey maybe you will find your back. I still love the old records, and hell, I'll still even spin Stand Up for what it's worth. It's all just music, and it's music that has accompanied me through some amazing and some difficult times. I lost my grandmother recently, and hearing an album full of love and light from a group I hold near and dear to me was all I needed to know that I'd get by. Not all the lyrics are shining beacons of songwriting, but I enjoy it all the same. The EMOTION is there again, and hell if I want to go back and hear Crash, I can just as easily do that. They owe nothing to me, but have given to me everything time and time again.

I don't love every decision they've done, but I am just happy that I got to see every iteration of one of my favorite bands of all time. I remember being a kid listening to Remember Two Things pining over my various crushes, and I remember sitting next to my grandmothers deathbed listening to Hear On Out. I'm grateful for my first shows in the early 2000's, and I'm grateful I took a chance on a Pit ticket for Atlanta in May. It's different of course, and sometimes I want to point to Jeff and yell "You take this solo instead!", but hey it's just change, and just like all change it can be seen as good or bad depending on where you view it from.

I can't wait to see a back to back run with them in WPB, something I've always wanted to do, and I still hope to catch a D&T before it's all said and done. Life is fleeting. I enjoy DMB. If you don't anymore that is cool too. There is a whole world of music out there waiting for you.

[LaLaLaLaHey]

Originally Posted by seanbrutus

My biggest hope is that the people who complain about DMB will stop going to DMB shows so I can enjoy the band for who they are right now. They have changed and so have I and I'm grateful we've still changed in the same direction. It's not perfect, it never was, and yes I'm happy with RR and I think Buddy is crushing it. I appreciate them taking their legacy by the horns in the light of how much could've been ruined with Boyd. Even as a casual fan the last 8 or so years until recently, it wasn't hard to notice that Boyd gave less and less, and therefore the band gave less and less to him. For a band with so much love to give, it was a noticeable bad energy. I love Boyd and hope he figures himself out, but I am glad he is gone for now.

It amazes me the amount of people on here who hate on everything past a certain point with the band. Why exactly? They've been a different band almost as long as they were the original lineup. Why continue with your own personal negativity to something you claim to love? It's ok to move on, and hey maybe you will find your back. I still love the old records, and hell, I'll still even spin Stand Up for what it's worth. It's all just music, and it's music that has accompanied me through some amazing and some difficult times. I lost my grandmother recently, and hearing an album full of love and light from a group I hold near and dear to me was all I needed to know that I'd get by. Not all the lyrics are shining beacons of songwriting, but I enjoy it all the same. The EMOTION is there again, and hell if I want to go back and hear Crash, I can just as easily do that. They owe nothing to me, but have given to me everything time and time again.

I don't love every decision they've done, but I am just happy that I got to see every iteration of one of my favorite bands of all time. I remember being a kid listening to Remember Two Things pining over my various crushes, and I remember sitting next to my grandmothers deathbed listening to Hear On Out. I'm grateful for my first shows in the early 2000's, and I'm grateful I took a chance on a Pit ticket for Atlanta in May. It's different of course, and sometimes I want to point to Jeff and yell "You take this solo instead!", but hey it's just change, and just like all change it can be seen as good or bad depending on where you view it from.

I can't wait to see a back to back run with them in WPB, something I've always wanted to do, and I still hope to catch a D&T before it's all said and done. Life is fleeting. I enjoy DMB. If you don't anymore that is cool too. There is a whole world of music out there waiting for you.

In complete agreement with this. We need more people on these boards that have opinions about the band but are more open to accepting the changes they've brought.

[TheLastPig]

there’s plenty of people who are positive about the bands sound here. Look at the fucking poll results of the thread you’re posting in.

And if some people being critical on a message board affects your enjoyment of a show in person... well that’s a you problem.

[crashintonickdm]

I wonder why New younger fans aren’t coming aboard

[phatpig]

It can't possibly be better since a key instrument is missing and key parts of songs aren't being played correctly. So either slightly worse or much worse are the only options

[paulg83]

Band sounds amazing. And I was very scared what we'd get without Boyd. But I'm sold. Love the old sound and miss it a great deal. I also love the new sound and I'm pretty damn pumped about the future. You don't have to choose a side here.