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Old 03-17-2023, 03:06 PM   #16891
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Busted Stuff was also only played 19 of 47 times Summer 2000, and wasn't played in Fall or 2001 like Grey St. Bartender, Grace, JTR. It's not like there's a ton of evidence that they loved it and they thought it was a great concert song then all of a sudden it was worse in 2002 even before he said Fuck Busted Stuff at Shoreline. I haven't heard that IEM in a while, but doesn't he say "fuck that song it goes nowhere?"
Yes. He says that it lost tension in the end, and then joked that the tension it was missing was probably Lillywhite looming over them in the studio.
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    Busted Stuff should stay on the shelf. It's already over by thirty seconds in. Half baked song...fun to play on the drums, but that's all it has going for it.
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    Old 03-17-2023, 03:50 PM   #16893
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    Eh busted stuff is overrated because it’s rare. It’s ok, but definitely in the bottom tier of songs off that album.
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    Old 03-17-2023, 03:59 PM   #16894
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    some random data

    last.fm - top 10 over last 30 days tracking

    1. crash - 6,956 listeners
    2. ants - 3,372
    3. satellite - 1,759
    4. space between - 1,713
    5. 41 - 1,511
    6. wwys - 1,407
    7. wayg - 1,361
    8. smts - 1,167
    9. madman - 1,126
    10. two step - 1,103

    for comparison - other "similar" artists top song over the last 30 days


    phish - farmhouse - 963
    john mayer - new light - 27,173
    jack johnson - upside down - 28,208
    eddie vedder - society - 8,273
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    Old 03-17-2023, 04:57 PM   #16895
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    I like the 00's E1 Gravedigger
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    Old 03-17-2023, 06:29 PM   #16896
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    I like the 00's E1 Gravedigger
    Wish Dave still played it like he did back then. Ever since that Willie Nelson version he doesn't use the original chord voicings or the same embellishments within the chords. Always bugs me a bit.
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    Old 03-17-2023, 09:26 PM   #16897
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    I like the Busted Stuff riff
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    Old 03-17-2023, 11:37 PM   #16898
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    Re: Random dmb thoughts that don't need their own thread

    Love Roi on those Busted Stuff's from 2000.
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    Old 03-18-2023, 12:26 AM   #16899
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    I really like Trouble With You. Everyone would probably complain about it being played live and being to slow/boring etc, but I'd love to see it.
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    Old 03-18-2023, 01:38 AM   #16900
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    Wish Dave still played it like he did back then. Ever since that Willie Nelson version he doesn't use the original chord voicings or the same embellishments within the chords. Always bugs me a bit.
    Haha this irks me too.

    Iíve been playing these songs on the guitar for 20 years, so when Dave changes the chords to generic basic relaxed chords (like raven for another example) I feel itís a bit lazier. Itís very minor, and it doesnít effect the overall song at all- just a minor annoyance
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    Old 03-18-2023, 09:50 AM   #16901
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    Great example with Raven. It does change the songs dynamic. Those higher chord voicings of the E and the A minor on a 12 definitely add to the way the song sounds. Those were the things that made Dave’s songs so interesting.
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    Old 03-18-2023, 06:06 PM   #16902
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    Haha this irks me too.

    Iíve been playing these songs on the guitar for 20 years, so when Dave changes the chords to generic basic relaxed chords (like raven for another example) I feel itís a bit lazier. Itís very minor, and it doesnít effect the overall song at all- just a minor annoyance
    This may just be a guitarist thing as it turns out lol. Been playing them for 17 years myself. On the other hand with the Raven example it does make it fun to switch between both versions to mix it up.
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    Old 03-19-2023, 04:28 PM   #16903
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    I don’t like how #41 just kinda putters out now
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    Old 03-20-2023, 01:22 PM   #16904
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    I want the band to open with Lie in Our Graves and end the show with LIOG reprise
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    Old 03-20-2023, 08:15 PM   #16905
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    Funny:

    https://www.instagram.com/p/CqB4IvNs...d=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
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    Old 03-20-2023, 09:43 PM   #16906
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    Re: Random dmb thoughts that don't need their own thread

    Can the drummers of the board explain why Grey Street went from starting with that crisp fill to now where it seems to start with a half hearted “ba thumTHUD UGH”
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    Old 03-20-2023, 10:27 PM   #16907
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    I really like Trouble With You. Everyone would probably complain about it being played live and being to slow/boring etc, but I'd love to see it.
    Trouble With You should have been played at RR05. Would love to see it get played once too, much less see it in person, which I would also love to see it in person.
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    Old 03-21-2023, 01:16 AM   #16908
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    Trouble With You has some great work from Leroi at the tail end too.
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    Old 03-21-2023, 09:13 AM   #16909
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    Re: Random dmb thoughts that don't need their own thread

    weird question, but does anyone know what the longest DMB track is on Spotify?
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    Old 03-21-2023, 09:29 AM   #16910
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    weird question, but does anyone know what the longest DMB track is on Spotify?
    I think it's #41 off Live Trax Vol. 22 - 22:09
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    Old 03-21-2023, 09:55 AM   #16911
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    Crush needs to be trimmed live by about five minutes. The outro is interminable.
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    Old 03-21-2023, 11:51 AM   #16912
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    Crush needs to be trimmed live by about five minutes. The outro is interminable.
    I could do with a less than 4 minute Rashawn solo. That Gilford one from last year on the Warehouse show is such a drag
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    Old 03-21-2023, 12:58 PM   #16913
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    Can the drummers of the board explain why Grey Street went from starting with that crisp fill to now where it seems to start with a half hearted ďba thumTHUD UGHĒ
    In 2018, Carter started playing a choked hi hat sort of thing as the last hit instead of the splash. Actually, when he first changed it he let the hi hat ring out.

    He also just plays it stylistically slightly different these days, sounding a little more disconnected than it did originally, and hitting the BD with the hi hat rather than that extra note before. If that makes any sense. The faster tempo muddles it up too.

    Youíre better off just listening to these two examples and hearing it rather than reading my explanation

    Old school: https://youtu.be/qp3KWrn-VzU
    One of the early Ď18 open hi hat takes: https://youtu.be/OiulATwTRGQ
    Mid Ď18-present style: https://youtu.be/-I-FIxBzDpI
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    Old 03-21-2023, 03:13 PM   #16914
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    Love Roi on those Busted Stuff's from 2000.
    One of my favorites from 2000. About as jazzy as DMB gets
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    Old 03-21-2023, 06:19 PM   #16915
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    I wonder if the Matt Norlander Steve Harris interview about Some Devil will ever happen. I recall them saying the were going to do that at the end of the Busted Stuff interview.
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    Old 03-21-2023, 06:53 PM   #16916
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    I wonder if the Matt Norlander Steve Harris interview about Some Devil will ever happen. I recall them saying the were going to do that at the end of the Busted Stuff interview.
    Well it has its 20th anniversary (good lord) in September, so that feels totally possible this year.

    It would also be great to get back to Lillywhite about AFTW at some point and see if there's more clarity about the possible trouble with that album.

    Frankly there are so many conversations I want to hear with all the producers. Mark Batson for Stand Up and the 2006 sessions, their leak, and Come Tomorrow. Rob Cavallo for BW and the extra 2009 sessions, and the 2013-2016 sessions. John Alagia/Rob Evans for all the songs they've helped shape and now for the WATM pandemic sessions.
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    Old 03-21-2023, 07:11 PM   #16917
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    Studio Help Myself is the easily the most underrated recording in their catalogue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6N9bEDCrtQ
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    Old 03-21-2023, 08:29 PM   #16918
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    In 2018, Carter started playing a choked hi hat sort of thing as the last hit instead of the splash. Actually, when he first changed it he let the hi hat ring out.

    He also just plays it stylistically slightly different these days, sounding a little more disconnected than it did originally, and hitting the BD with the hi hat rather than that extra note before. If that makes any sense. The faster tempo muddles it up too.

    Youíre better off just listening to these two examples and hearing it rather than reading my explanation

    Old school: https://youtu.be/qp3KWrn-VzU
    One of the early Ď18 open hi hat takes: https://youtu.be/OiulATwTRGQ
    Mid Ď18-present style: https://youtu.be/-I-FIxBzDpI

    That Gorge '02 Grey St is one of my go to favorite versions. It is INSANE how much different this band sounds. Their sound was so tight back in 02 compared to now every song is a race to finish that there is no neuance to the way they play anymore. Its like a completely different band (which it kind of is)
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    Old 03-21-2023, 08:54 PM   #16919
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    That Gorge '02 Grey St is one of my go to favorite versions. It is INSANE how much different this band sounds. Their sound was so tight back in 02 compared to now every song is a race to finish that there is no neuance to the way they play anymore. Its like a completely different band (which it kind of is)
    Carter was so insanely groovy and deep in the pocket in that prime era. He still is now, just in a different way.
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    Old 03-21-2023, 09:26 PM   #16920
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    AgreedÖ this topic has been discussed a ton, and I feel like a majority agree that the Rockbridge is the worst sounding of all his guitars. The Martin is perfect for D&T and the 914 is perfect for full band. I even prefer the Martin full band from LS, but I think as the band continued to grow and incorporate more layers of sound, the Taylorís high end cuts through the wall of sound very nicely.


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