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Old 08-15-2018, 07:34 PM   #96751
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Do Republicans know that they are almost certainly going to lose the House and what the ramifications of that are? I sense many of the MAGA hatters don't.
Not sure most of them realize the gravity of Dems gaining control of investigatory committees with subpoena power in the House yet. Or if they do they haven't expressed it. I'm just fine with that though.
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    Old 08-15-2018, 08:12 PM   #96753
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    The Democrats are not certainly going to loose the House. They can easily blow it.
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    Trump revokes the security clearance of the former director of the CIA. Brennan was first appointed as the Director of the National Counterterrorism Center by George W. Bush in 2004, then served as the 5th Homeland Security Adviser to Obama, before being appointed to the top of the CIA

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/15/trum...clearance.html

    This is a purely political move and has nothing to do with national security. Can we go back to normalcy soon?
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    I'm completely ignorant to normal process here, but why does a former Director still have clearance?
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    The purge continues. This is the sort of behavior that dictators use. There is no other reasonable way to explain it.

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    2:34 P.M. EDT

    MS. SANDERS: " Good afternoon. I’d like to begin by reading a statement from the President:

    As the head of the executive branch and Commander-in-Chief, I have a unique constitutional responsibility to protect the nation’s classified information, including by controlling access to it. Today, in fulfilling that responsibility, I have decided to revoke the security clearance of John Brennan, former Director of the Central Intelligence Agency.

    Historically, former heads of intelligence and law enforcement agencies have been allowed to retain access to classified information after their government service so that they can consult with their successors regarding matters about which they may have special insights and as a professional courtesy.

    Neither of these justifications supports Mr. Brennan’s continued access to classified information. First, at this point in my administration, any benefits that senior officials might glean from consultations with Mr. Brennan are now outweighed by the risks posed by his erratic conduct and behavior. Second, that conduct and behavior has tested and far exceeded the limits of any professional courtesy that may have been due to him.

    Mr. Brennan has a history that calls into question his objectivity and credibility. In 2014, for example, he denied to Congress that CIA officials, under his supervision, had improperly accessed the computer files of congressional staffers. He told the Council of Foreign Relations that the CIA would never do such a thing. The CIA’s Inspector General, however, contradicted Mr. Brennan directly, concluding unequivocally that agency officials had indeed improperly accessed congressional staffers’ files. More recently, Mr. Brennan told Congress that the intelligence community did not make use of the so-called Steele dossier in an assessment regarding the 2016 election, an assertion contradicted by at least two other senior officials in the intelligence community and all of the facts.

    Additionally, Mr. Brennan has recently leveraged his status as a former high-ranking official with access to highly sensitive information to make a series of unfounded and outrageous allegations -- wild outbursts on the Internet and television -- about this administration. Mr. Brennan’s lying and recent conduct, characterized by increasingly frenzied commentary, is wholly inconsistent with access to the nation’s most closely held secrets, and facilities [facilitates] the very aim of our adversaries, which is to sow division and chaos.

    More broadly, the issue of Mr. Brennan’s security clearance raises larger questions about the practice of former officials maintaining access to our nation’s most sensitive secrets long after their time in government has ended.

    Such access is particularly inappropriate when former officials have transitioned into highly partisan positions and seek to use real or perceived access to sensitive information to validate their political attacks. Any access granted to our nation’s secrets should be in furtherance of national, not personal, interests. For this reason, I’ve also begun to review the more general question of the access to classified information by government officials.

    As part of this review, I am evaluating action with respect to the following individuals: James Clapper, James Comey, Michael Hayden, Sally Yates, Susan Rice, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, and Bruce Ohr.

    Security clearances for those who still have them may be revoked, and those who have already lost their security clearance may not be able to have it reinstated.

    It is for the foregoing reasons that I have exercised my constitutional authority to deny Mr. Brennan access to classified information, and I will direct appropriate staff of the National Security Council to make the necessary arrangements with the appropriate agencies to implement this determination."
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    Old 08-16-2018, 04:18 AM   #96755
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    Andrew Cuomo, Ocasio, and and Christine Hallquist are the Democratic Party. Man they sure try and make it easy for Republicans.
    I'd say 5% of Americans know who all three of those people are.

    10% know 2

    And 25% know 1.

    What percentage of Americans know who Donald trump is?

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    Old 08-16-2018, 05:33 AM   #96756
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    I'd say 5% of Americans know who all three of those people are.

    10% know 2

    And 25% know 1.

    What percentage of Americans know who Donald trump is?


    NY boob, socialist, trans lady

    I’m in the 5%!!!!!

    Everyone on this planet knows who Donald Trump is.
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    Old 08-16-2018, 06:13 AM   #96757
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    I didn't know who Christine hallquist was so I'm in the 10%.
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    Old 08-16-2018, 06:29 AM   #96758
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    2 out of 3

    10%!
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    Old 08-16-2018, 06:40 AM   #96759
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    I didn't know who Christine hallquist was so I'm in the 10%.
    same here.
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    Old 08-16-2018, 06:41 AM   #96760
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    Guys, if Kev says it it must be true.
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    Old 08-16-2018, 06:43 AM   #96761
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    I'm always on the edge of my seat waiting for the fringe right to tell me what liberals believe and who they believe in. They need to put out a newsletter or something so we're not always playing catch up.
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    Old 08-16-2018, 06:47 AM   #96762
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    I'm always on the edge of my seat waiting for the fringe right to tell me what liberals believe and who they believe in. They need to put out a newsletter or something so we're not always playing catch up.
    I'm always on the edge of my seat waiting for the right to tell me what liberals did to allow trump to win. They need to put out a newsletter or something so we're not always playing catch up.

    It's our fault he won! Not the people that voted for him.

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    Old 08-16-2018, 06:53 AM   #96763
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    Average CEO-to-worker compensation ratio for the 350 largest firms in the US

    2017: 312-to-1
    1989: 58-to-1
    1965: 20-to-1

    (peak ratio was 344-to-1 in 2000)

    Economic Policy Institute

    https://twitter.com/ianbremmer/statu...895390209?s=19
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    Old 08-16-2018, 06:57 AM   #96764
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    Average CEO-to-worker compensation ratio for the 350 largest firms in the US

    2017: 312-to-1
    1989: 58-to-1
    1965: 20-to-1

    (peak ratio was 344-to-1 in 2000)

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    https://twitter.com/ianbremmer/statu...895390209?s=19
    something something, its lower than in 2000!... something something bootstraps.
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    something something, its lower than in 2000!... something something bootstraps.
    sorry, the judges were looking for "liberals are so jealous of other people's money"
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    Old 08-16-2018, 07:03 AM   #96766
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    Old 08-16-2018, 07:07 AM   #96767
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    Ill all bullshit.



    2:34 P.M. EDT

    MS. SANDERS: " Good afternoon. I’d like to begin by reading a statement from the President:
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    It is for the foregoing reasons that I have exercised my constitutional authority to deny Mr. Brennan access to classified information, and I will direct appropriate staff of the National Security Council to make the necessary arrangements with the appropriate agencies to implement this determination."
    It's being reported that Trump never consulted his Director of National Intelligence when making this decision. This is all the proof anyone needs to know that this was only politically motivated.
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    Former CIA Director pens scathing op-ed for NYT following his security clearance being revoked: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/16/o...clearance.html

    Discusses, at length, the details known to him and others in intelligence agencies before, during, and after Russia's election interference. He says both Russian denials of interference, and Trump camp's denials of collaborating with Russians, is bullshit.

    Worth the read.
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    Old 08-16-2018, 07:12 AM   #96769
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    sorry, the judges were looking for "liberals are so jealous of other people's money"
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    Old 08-16-2018, 07:14 AM   #96770
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    Trump also tied revoking Brennan's clearance to the Russia investigation: https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-r...nce-1534358658
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    Old 08-16-2018, 07:15 AM   #96771
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    Former CIA Director pens scathing op-ed for NYT following his security clearance being revoked: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/16/o...clearance.html

    Discusses, at length, the details known to him and others in intelligence agencies before, during, and after Russia's election interference. He says both Russian denials of interference, and Trump camp's denials of collaborating with Russians, is bullshit.

    Worth the read.
    Whatever else can be said, we're witnessing unprecedented history in the making nearly every day. This is the sort of thing that will be studied in college US history classes for generations to come.
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    Trump also tied revoking Brennan's clearance to the Russia investigation: https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-r...nce-1534358658
    He's chipping away at the fringes of the group of people he believes are responsible for the special counsel investigation into his campaign and presidency. He's testing the water and setting a precedent. It's only a matter of time before he starts cutting deeper.
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    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...idterms-778968

    "'If they take the House, he wins big': Trump loyalists see upside in impeachment"


    ^ This is a different theory that I have not heard.
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    Old 08-16-2018, 07:51 AM   #96774
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    sorry, the judges were looking for "liberals are so jealous of other people's money"
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    Old 08-16-2018, 08:05 AM   #96775
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    "'If they take the House, he wins big': Trump loyalists see upside in impeachment"


    ^ This is a different theory that I have not heard.
    Comparatively, the reasons for impeachment will be apples and oranges while Trump's base will hold both impeachments equal.

    Clinton did a shitty thing by cheating on his wife and lying about it, but to liken that to conspiracy to commit collusion with Russia is absurd.
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    Old 08-16-2018, 08:09 AM   #96776
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    "'If they take the House, he wins big': Trump loyalists see upside in impeachment"


    ^ This is a different theory that I have not heard.
    that's hysterical

    Yes, it will help him in the same way that 11 Benghazi investigations and the email thing helped Hillary Clinton!
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    Old 08-16-2018, 08:21 AM   #96777
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    "Democrats bringing impeachment charges is why I voted for him!" Many republicans who would have voted fo him anyway.
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    Old 08-16-2018, 08:38 AM   #96778
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    I am disappointed that everyone is doubting Barry Bennett's theory
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    Old 08-16-2018, 08:39 AM   #96779
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    Dems don't need to impeach (not immediately anyway). Just investigate and expose with the full force of committee power.
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    So it sounds like the initial estimate (of $12M) for Trump's military parade was just a tiny bit off...

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/16/trum...estimated.html

    And by a tiny bit, I mean $80M off.
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