The Batson Sessions: DMB Studio Efforts from 2006 Leaked - News Discussion

[Heyberto]

Originally Posted by Dannyyankou

I’m interested if there’s any cool demos of unreleased material from the BTCS sessions. That was really the first time they had to make a new album from the ground up. With UTTAD and Crash, most of the songs they recorded already existed.

I imagine there’s a lot of unheard material from the BTCS sessions that didn’t make the final album.

Originally Posted by chadizzy1

We know from the listing on Tour Central that the BTCS Sessions began February 1st, 1998 in Sausalito, CA.

These are some songs that were recorded and not released:
Don't Burn The Pig - Possibly Dave solo, reworked into “Pig”.
Get In Line - Recorded during the BTCS sessions but not released.
MacHead - Recorded during the BTCS sessions but not released.
#40 (Always) - Possibly Dave solo.
Captain - Possibly not actually recorded, but Dave worked on it during the sessions.

Lillywhite has said there really isn’t anything beyond rough demos / jams. He Hines in and focuses on stuff pretty quickly

[ForkInFork]

Originally Posted by chadizzy1

We know from the listing on Tour Central that the BTCS Sessions began February 1st, 1998 in Sausalito, CA.

These are some songs that were recorded and not released:
Don't Burn The Pig - Possibly Dave solo, reworked into “Pig”.
Get In Line - Recorded during the BTCS sessions but not released.
MacHead - Recorded during the BTCS sessions but not released.
#40 (Always) - Possibly Dave solo.
Captain - Possibly not actually recorded, but Dave worked on it during the sessions.

What I think would be even more exciting (maybe not more than MacHead, but still) would be the early/rough takes of the songs they DID release that everyone loves. I would kill to hear how last stop or the stone progressed from an idea to a finished masterpiece through a couple of evolving demo takes.

[Cross the ice]

Originally Posted by ForkInFork

What I think would be even more exciting (maybe not more than MacHead, but still) would be the early/rough takes of the songs they DID release that everyone loves. I would kill to hear how last stop or the stone progressed from an idea to a finished masterpiece through a couple of evolving demo takes.

That would be cool, but I can't imagine this happening now. Maybe waaaay in the future when they're trying to squeeze every last penny out of the album, like Dylan's done with a lot of alternate takes of songs.

[dontburnthe_pig]

It sure would be great to get some more context about these sessions, as the band seemed to be in a pivotal spot in their career - at a fork in the road, so to speak.

On the one hand, it's easy to hear the "old" sound being developed further and exploring other directions musically. On the other hand, there are clear indications of the "new" sound or 3.0 or whatever it's referred to nowadays. Maybe the tension of these two sounds contributed to the broader issues within the band. I get that these are demos, but eve within these ideas there's uncertainty about pushing one or the other sound.

I mean, the band released Stand Up, then came out with tracks like IOY and Shotgun, which have the classic DMB sound with an updated twist. A song like Kill The King seems to capture the awkwardness of this push and pull between old and new.

Anyone else get this vibe or am i overthinking this?

[PenguinMRD]

Call me crazy but I hear Do You Remember in ABC.

[PantalaNagaMan]

Originally Posted by crashintonickdm

They’re ideas. All songs likely start like this. What’s so good about this compared to shit like come tomorrow and big whiskey is that the lyrics are a little deeper than dad dave cheese we get now

"Drive Me Away"

Walking down the garden path
I heard a pop, and hurried in
Saw you there, I dropped my bags
Little baby love, what have you done?
Out before the cops came in
Tying up a few loose ends
Somebody drive me away

It’s too late for talking now
Drive me away
Life is upside down
Drive me away
I wish I could disappear
Drive me away
Oh, let me stand here

Remember how you used to play?
Remember how you used to run?
Baby, did you forget how to run away?
I don’t think I could even take a breath
Somebody drive me away

It’s too late for talking now
Drive me away
I feel inside out
Drive me away
I swear I can’t even breathe
Drive me away
Somebody wake me up
I must be sleeping
Somebody tell me I’m dreaming

Drive me away
It’s too late for talking now
Drive me away
Upside down and inside out
Drive me away
Feel like my skin is crawling out
Somebody drive me away
I swear my heart is pounding out
Somebody drive me away
I don’t even know how to run away
Somebody drive me away
I can’t let everything come out
Somebody drive me away
There’s no tomorrows after now
Drive me away

[jasonrak]

Originally Posted by DannoMac21

Red Glare is so catchy

Its very early days U2. Nice tune

[jasonrak]

Originally Posted by WidespreadMule3

Red Glare sounds like DMB's take on a Police song that has lyrics by U2.

haha THIS

[Cptn. Monkeyman]

Originally Posted by PantalaNagaMan

"Drive Me Away"

Walking down the garden path
I heard a pop, and hurried in
Saw you there, I dropped my bags
Little baby love, what have you done?
Out before the cops came in
Tying up a few loose ends
Somebody drive me away

It’s too late for talking now
Drive me away
Life is upside down
Drive me away
I wish I could disappear
Drive me away
Oh, let me stand here

Remember how you used to play?
Remember how you used to run?
Baby, did you forget how to run away?
I don’t think I could even take a breath
Somebody drive me away

It’s too late for talking now
Drive me away
I feel inside out
Drive me away
I swear I can’t even breathe
Drive me away
Somebody wake me up
I must be sleeping
Somebody tell me I’m dreaming

Drive me away
It’s too late for talking now
Drive me away
Upside down and inside out
Drive me away
Feel like my skin is crawling out
Somebody drive me away
I swear my heart is pounding out
Somebody drive me away
I don’t even know how to run away
Somebody drive me away
I can’t let everything come out
Somebody drive me away
There’s no tomorrows after now
Drive me away

Love this.

[crushme5]

Hey Ants! I haven't been on the forum since the tour announcement and just logged in. Holy Crap! Batson Sessions leaked.

Can someone send me a PM so I can listen to this?

Thanks

[limbstan]

Originally Posted by Cross the ice

Yes, for this band. Why does Dave prefer him over Lillywhite? Given the quality of Dave’s writing these days the last thing DMB needs is Lillywhite’s heavy hand bloating a song like Here On Out to 11 minutes. I’m guessing if Batson produced BTCS it’d be 20 minutes shorter and a little better. A least less pretentious.

Whoa. I've never seen a comment like this on this website and I've been here a long time.

[LaLaLaLaHey]

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=the+batson+sessions

[FeelingGood]

Had my first chance to listen with decent earphones this afternoon. What a gift...I'm enjoying this so much. Probably more excited listening to this than the first time hearing CT. Probably the biggest wildcard is how Dave and the band is taking the news about the leak and how they'll react to it. What an opportunity to play to the desires of their fanbase. I could be cynical about that, but I'm staying hopeful.

Another thought...Dave said in an interview he wanted CT to be about love and hope for the future...might explain why he didn't bring in some of the more darker material from the leak.

[canyonfool]

This Cornbread reminds me a lot of the way Eh Hee was recorded/sounds. Any ideas if Eh Hee was done in any of these sessions?

[Cptn. Monkeyman]

Originally Posted by Cross the ice

Yes, for this band. Why does Dave prefer him over Lillywhite? Given the quality of Dave’s writing these days the last thing DMB needs is Lillywhite’s heavy hand bloating a song like Here On Out to 11 minutes. I’m guessing if Batson produced BTCS it’d be 20 minutes shorter and a little better. A least less pretentious.

Is your name not a reference to a certain Lillywhite Sessions song lyric?

[Heyberto]

Originally Posted by FeelingGood

Had my first chance to listen with decent earphones this afternoon. What a gift...I'm enjoying this so much. Probably more excited listening to this than the first time hearing CT. Probably the biggest wildcard is how Dave and the band is taking the news about the leak and how they'll react to it. What an opportunity to play to the desires of their fanbase. I could be cynical about that, but I'm staying hopeful.

Another thought...Dave said in an interview he wanted CT to be about love and hope for the future...might explain why he didn't bring in some of the more darker material from the leak.

I'm sure they don't like it, but I wouldn't think it'll be something they cry over. the flip side is if we ever had any desire to get 'finished' versions of these songs, we can probably kiss that goodbye. Not because it'll be them trying to punish us, I just don't think they will want to work on any of them now.

[Dannyyankou]

Originally Posted by Cross the ice

Yes, for this band. Why does Dave prefer him over Lillywhite? Given the quality of Dave’s writing these days the last thing DMB needs is Lillywhite’s heavy hand bloating a song like Here On Out to 11 minutes. I’m guessing if Batson produced BTCS it’d be 20 minutes shorter and a little better. A least less pretentious.

I’ll give you a hint: It’s the same reason Dave writes weak setlists, plays the same songs over and over, and doesn’t bust out rarities often. Laziness.

[Cptn. Monkeyman]

I love Stefan’s upright bass on Early Home

[drop2d]

Originally Posted by Cptn. Monkeyman

I love Stefan’s upright bass on Early Home

Just listened to it on headphones for the first time... upright bass for sure. I also wonder if he's playing on Shotgun. There are parts where it seems very basic and almost computer-generated. Could be wrong... but it's fun to start getting into listening more closely to pick up on the small stuff.

[coldblueice]

the instrumental bridge w/ piano on Idea of You (2:00 - 2:25) is achingly beautiful.

as someone who was around when LWS dropped, these Batson Sessions remind me so much of it. songs, stripped down, yet still so emotional. LWS was more emotional than the matte finish of Busted Stuff. and the Batson Sessions are more emotional than the glossy finish of Come Tomorrow.

ashame that this band has just never understood how good they could be.

[CapnHani06]

Crazy that they've been sitting on this version of Can't Stop all these years while the slower, bass-driven version was SO maligned throughout the fanbase and that's the one that persisted until 2018. I'd love to hear the story about its evolution/progression, I'm betting the slower one resulted from Fonz messing with the riff and was born out of an impromptu jam that stuck for whatever reason.

[v0taw]

Who is playing the guitar in these 2006 sessions?

[drop2d]

Originally Posted by v0taw

Who is playing the guitar in these 2006 sessions?

Dave and probably some Fonz. If I were to bet on it, I'd say Celebrate is all Fonz.

[pathetic]

April sessions is batson on drums/drum machine right?

[ForkInFork]

Originally Posted by ForkInFork

Can't seem to dig up "Clip #4" from the Stand Up promo website, but did any remnant of that end up in these 2006 sessions?

bumping to see if anyone can confirm or deny. I forget what that clip sounded like

[ToySoldier#34]

Originally Posted by drop2d

Dave and probably some Fonz. If I were to bet on it, I'd say Celebrate is all Fonz.

If it's guitar and sounds good it's probably Dave and not Fonz

[grilldanmo]

Enjoyed some of what I’ve heard while other stuff reminds me of the Stand Up stuff, musically limited and undynamic. I’m good with rough tracks/demos (always have been), so I’m just talking about the music itself...stuff production won’t improve )which it doesn’t always do).

Mostly I don’t hear much of anything as good, let alone better than, what’s on CT. My favorite Break Free is still from the early 2016 tour, with a good pace a nice solo from Boyd.

[grilldanmo]

Glad to hear some stuff, but this isn’t anything like tLWS. Overall it’s better than SU, but that’s still as low a bar as DMB has for my ears.

[ForkInFork]

Originally Posted by ForkInFork

bumping to see if anyone can confirm or deny. I forget what that clip sounded like

found it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vWBPxcn18Q

clip 4, which is at the end, and the cool strumming diddy in the begging of the video (as well as what sounds like 3 notes of Good Good Time) didnt end up on the 2006 sessions

[v0taw]

Originally Posted by ToySoldier#34

If it's guitar and sounds good it's probably Dave and not Fonz

He's playing what sounds like the electric guitar?