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Old 07-24-2021, 09:22 PM   #61
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Swap out the Dave solo-ish tunes and swap in unreleased gems like Sugar Will, Shotgun, A Dream So Real, Kill The King and then you have a killer album.
Iíve been saying this for years. It would have made a good album big 3 level. Still love it tho. Glad to see this thread has some people changing their minds.
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    Iíve been saying this for years. It would have made a good album big 3 level. Still love it tho. Glad to see this thread has some people changing their minds.

    Every so often I re-listen to it, just the other day in fact. I was going through some pretty intense personal changes when it came out, and it still conjures up those memories, because sonically it's got such a cohesive identity (whereas Come Tomorrow feels disjointed mostly).


    Aside from Dave's corny moments (even though I roll my eyes when we get to the "belly jelly" line, part of me still appreciates what a complete dorky goofball that man is) or the times where he's being just too plain-language preachy (Mercy) this would absolutely stand out as Big 3-level to me. Even a "solo" track like Sweet is fine in that regard, as the rest of the band does come in at the end.



    It's also, for me, inextricably tied to the autumn season that it was released in, and I feel like that was a brilliant choice for them. The tone doesn't have enough bright, poppy energy to really be a summertime album. But it completely owns that slanting light at the end of September.
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    Old 08-03-2021, 09:25 AM   #63
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    Broken Things is top 30, totally deserves to be in regular rotation
    Broken things gets better every time I hear it. Top 30. I must concur.
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    Old 08-03-2021, 01:21 PM   #64
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    Every so often I re-listen to it, just the other day in fact. I was going through some pretty intense personal changes when it came out, and it still conjures up those memories, because sonically it's got such a cohesive identity (whereas Come Tomorrow feels disjointed mostly).


    Aside from Dave's corny moments (even though I roll my eyes when we get to the "belly jelly" line, part of me still appreciates what a complete dorky goofball that man is) or the times where he's being just too plain-language preachy (Mercy) this would absolutely stand out as Big 3-level to me. Even a "solo" track like Sweet is fine in that regard, as the rest of the band does come in at the end.



    It's also, for me, inextricably tied to the autumn season that it was released in, and I feel like that was a brilliant choice for them. The tone doesn't have enough bright, poppy energy to really be a summertime album. But it completely owns that slanting light at the end of September.
    It definitely feels like a fall tone album. Always felt that way. Like itís still light but thereís darkness ahead type vibe. Mercy lyrics donít really bother me. If heís going to be preachy thatís a much better way of doing it than some of the other ones weíve gotten like gaucho chorus. But yeah the album just feels cohesive which goes a long way.
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    Old 08-11-2021, 10:26 AM   #65
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    I always thought Snow Outside would become an awesome live jam, but it's been completely abandoned. It was played in the acoustic sets 2014-15, but never really jammed out. Love the album as a whole and wish it was played more.
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    Old 08-21-2021, 05:58 PM   #66
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    Re: Does Dave hate this album?

    I would love for Snow Outside to pop up at a show. Definitely in the top 5 i have yet to hear.
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    Old 08-22-2021, 05:43 PM   #67
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    It's a travesty that Broken Things and Snow Outside are never played.
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    Old 08-25-2021, 01:29 AM   #68
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    Re: Does Dave hate this album?

    I think some of the songs on this album were a little too personal/revealing and hit a little too close to home, which is why it's not revisited in concerts much. It's Dave's midlife-crisis record, and I think someday far in the future, we'll hear some very interesting stories about those songs.
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    Old 09-08-2021, 03:16 PM   #69
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    I'm a huge "The Riff" fan, words to the song really speak to me. Would love to hear that live. Found it in a show in NO with Dave and Tim 1/16/14- video on You Tube. Really enjoyed that .
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    Old 09-08-2021, 03:19 PM   #70
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    I'm a huge "The Riff" fan, words to the song really speak to me. Would love to hear that live. Found it in a show in NO with Dave and Tim 1/16/14- video on You Tube. Really enjoyed that .
    I think The Riff is one of the best on the album and it doesn't seem to get a lot of love around here. I'll take it at any show.
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    Old 09-12-2021, 10:08 PM   #71
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    I think The Riff is one of the best on the album and it doesn't seem to get a lot of love around here. I'll take it at any show.
    The Riff and Broken Things are 2 criminally underplayed songs in the AFTW era is started going to shows in starting May of 2012. I caught each once but still thing these are songs that translated very well live unlike most of AFTW. I definitely got my fair share of Drunken Soldier and Snow Outside which are great songs. But I would have loved to get more Broken things and the riff.

    I will say sweet in 2021 has been upgraded to a whole new level compared to the versions i heard from 2012 to 2015.
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    Re: Does Dave hate this album?

    I still love this album, it's just a shame that Dave abandoned most of the songs live. If you had told me back in 2012 that Snow Outside would only be played over the next 6 years, and that Broken Things and Gaucho would basically go the way of something like Mother Father and Angel, I would've called bullshit.

    I do love what they've done with Sweet this year though, and Buddy being able to play If Only is much better than Boyd's drones.That Mercy from 2019 was really tasty too. It's just a shame that none of the songs really developed. Less Jimi, more AFTW
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    I still love this album, it's just a shame that Dave abandoned most of the songs live. If you had told me back in 2012 that Snow Outside would only be played over the next 6 years, and that Broken Things and Gaucho would basically go the way of something like Mother Father and Angel, I would've called bullshit.

    I do love what they've done with Sweet this year though, and Buddy being able to play If Only is much better than Boyd's drones.That Mercy from 2019 was really tasty too. It's just a shame that none of the songs really developed. Less Jimi, more AFTW
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    Old 09-16-2021, 02:20 PM   #74
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    Re: Does Dave hate this album?

    Does Dave hate this album? Probably.

    Unlike the other ass kissers Dave has chosen to work with who allow him to produce crap, Steve Lillywhite is an actual professional producer who doesn't settle for mediocrity. While Away From The World still sucked in the end, the few bright lyrical spots that shine through were undoubtedly the result of Lillywhite's involvement. Last thing Dave wants at this point in his arrogant life is someone telling him how to write music, and unfortunately that is the thing he needs the most.
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    Old 09-21-2021, 12:03 AM   #75
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    For the record, I love the sound and production of this album. It has a really nice mellow vibe throughout its entirety. I've been listening to this album more often lately because I really miss hearing a violin in the mix and AFTW really brought that sound back, plus it's an awesome album.
    Completely agree with this review. The album demonstrated a maturity in the composition that has largely been missing with other producers. I put this album on from start to finish while rarely listening to any single other than snow outside.
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    Old 10-03-2021, 10:18 AM   #76
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    One can only hope. I’m not one to put down others work but it’s definitely my least favorite collection of dmb tunes.
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    Old 10-10-2021, 11:10 PM   #77
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    Busted Stuff > Broken Things
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    Old 11-07-2021, 05:28 AM   #78
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    Good songs! Any new recommendations here?
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    Old 11-08-2021, 12:24 AM   #79
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    One can only hope. Iím not one to put down others work but itís definitely my least favorite collection of dmb tunes.

    It boggles me that this opinion exists in a world where we have Stand Up and Everyday.
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