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baileyk114 · 06-15-2014, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jsc6545

Watchtower closing IMO is a dud. Been there done that.

If watchtower opened... I'd be ok with it

Why does watchtower get so much hate around here? Personally I think it's a killer song. The energy is through the roof.

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crashintonickdm · 06-15-2014, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by baileyk114

Why does watchtower get so much hate around here? Personally I think it's a killer song. The energy is through the roof.

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its not hated.

its just completely stale as a closer. they often don't move it around anymore.

baileyk114 · 06-15-2014, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by crashintonickdm

its not hated.

its just completely stale as a closer. they often don't move it around anymore.

I have yet to hear it so I'll take it anywhere in the set haha

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**ExistenceNow** · 06-15-2014, 10:12 PM

I don't hate it as a closer, but like Two Step was a for a couple years, it's grown stale in its slot.

It would benefit greatly from a treatment similar to what Two Step has received this year; moving around in the set a lot.

crashintonickdm · 06-15-2014, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by baileyk114

I have yet to hear it so I'll take it anywhere in the set haha

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i don't buy into watchtower opening a show as a good idea, like some have suggested they should do. i think even more so than ants, or billies, it'd be far too anti climatic opening a show.

mthawk07 · 06-15-2014, 10:46 PM

I agree that AATW should be played midset more, but it's not like it's a new development that it's closing sets and encores. It's been one of their primary closers since the beginning.

barbogast · 06-16-2014, 02:40 AM

Watchtower opener does not sound good to me. To be honest I'm pretty much just tired of it in general. Works great as a closer because it means I can leave and beat some traffic

Seriously though I could never hear AATW again, at a show or just in general, and be perfectly ok with it

hmich176 · 06-16-2014, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by baileyk114

Why does watchtower get so much hate around here? Personally I think it's a killer song. The energy is through the roof.

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I've gotten Watchtower 4 times - and it was the encore closer each time.

8/8/07, 4/15/09, 7/24/09, and 12/8/12.

I like the song, but I don't need to hear it ever again.

TMoore4075 · 06-16-2014, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Nexx

I can't believe Stay has only ever opened 3 times, all in 2003. I don't hate the song, but I certainly hated the predictability of it closing so many sets or encores. It had a welcome break the past few years.

I've heard it 6 times, twice midset, which I thought was cool. It wasn't predictable that way.

shaneo208 · 06-16-2014, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by mthawk07

I agree that AATW should be played midset more, but it's not like it's a new development that it's closing sets and encores. It's been one of their primary closers since the beginning.

The mid set watchtower at alpine in 12 was one of my favorite surprises at a show. That was the first time i saw it not close a set

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crashintonickdm · 06-16-2014, 08:51 AM

I've seen stay open, set close, show close and mid set

All except set and show closer are way better

TheStone91 · 06-16-2014, 08:59 AM

Granny was the set closer last show. There's some variety...it hasn't been a set closer since '93! I love when the band goes out of its comfort zone and changes things up. Hopefully we see some more unique closers going forward (i.e. The Best of What's Around, So Right, Drive In Drive Out, Crush, The Stone, etc.).

Jake17 · 06-16-2014, 09:37 AM

I saw watchtower midset twice and it was great

Stay to open would be money. Danceable, catchy, gets everyone moving, really high energy

nick997k · 06-16-2014, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Jake17

I saw watchtower midset twice and it was great

Stay to open would be money. Danceable, catchy, gets everyone moving, really high energy

I saw Stay open at Darien in 03 I think - it was a great way to start the show. I went to Blossum the next night, and it closed the set.

stlbluespower · 06-16-2014, 10:14 AM

Watchtower is a great song. Agree it is somewhat stale as an encore closer. Would love it midset. Never want to see it go away for too long.

Always have wondered.... if Dave/DMB had penned this song, where would it rank on the overall list of DMB songs. Would maybe be right up there in my top 5.

phillybeezler · 06-16-2014, 10:30 AM

The only time I've actually enjoyed Watchtower was when it was midset at Alpine 2012.
But Ill take watchtower over anything BW to close anyday

TMoore4075 · 06-16-2014, 10:55 AM

Hoping Good Good Time, Slip Slidin' and Write a Song stick around.

Luv4Roi · 06-16-2014, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jsc6545

Watchtower closing IMO is a dud. Been there done that.

If watchtower opened... I'd be ok with it

A Watchtower opener would be badass.

sloth · 06-16-2014, 03:06 PM

Last great watchtower I saw. 11/19/2010. Char. Into Halloweenie........mmmmm. We almost left. Doh!

**ExistenceNow** · 06-16-2014, 03:10 PM

Last time I saw Watchtower not close, was 2001, and it segued into Ants, which was pretty awesome.

chadizzy1 · 06-16-2014, 03:14 PM

Seen Watchtower 10 times.

7 times in the encore, 2 times main set closer.

5/23/14 was the only time it wasn't a closer/encore, it was song 17 of 23.

Watchtower>
Digging A Ditch
Grey Street
—
Sister
PNP>
Rapunzel

morecornbread!! · 06-16-2014, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TMoore4075

Hoping Good Good Time, Slip Slidin' and Write a Song stick around.

Write a Song is so underrated. Great and fun song. I hope it pops up this weekend.

chadizzy1 · 06-20-2014, 07:51 PM

6/20

E1: Good Good Time
E2: Shake Meh

bowa36 · 06-20-2014, 08:00 PM

Because of the electric sets, this is their worst year so far in my opinion

chadizzy1 · 06-20-2014, 08:06 PM

I'm definitely scaling back next year. I'll go to whatever D&T is close by, but full band - probably only going to an N1/N2 somewhere and that's it.

MaxonBartender · 06-20-2014, 08:13 PM

Here I am thinking Yay Good Good Time full band in an encore 1 slot? Then came Shake Meh and....well you fill in the rest.

LIOG4140 · 06-20-2014, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bowa36

Because of the electric sets, this is their worst year so far in my opinion

In the history of the band?

davem#36 · 06-20-2014, 09:01 PM

Tonight was great. Bullshit SMLAM encore but the run from STJL too pnp->RAP was money. Beach all was a incredible surprise. Still fucking ridiculous they continue too end at 10 till tho.

bowa36 · 06-20-2014, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by LIOG4140

In the history of the band?

Yes, with 2007 close to a tie

BruceW · 06-20-2014, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bowa36

Yes, with 2007 close to a tie

nope...not even close

06-15-2014, 10:12 PM	#184
ExistenceNow AM.org Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 89,709 Shows Seen: 117 DMB Hub Stubs: 30 My Tour Central Stats	Re: Overall lack of setlist variety so far I don't hate it as a closer, but like Two Step was a for a couple years, it's grown stale in its slot. It would benefit greatly from a treatment similar to what Two Step has received this year; moving around in the set a lot. __________________ -Matthew Dallas Tailgate Map

06-15-2014, 10:46 PM	#186
mthawk07 In all kinds of weather Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Tampa Posts: 30,220 Shows Seen: 21 DMB Hub Stubs: 13 My Tour Central Stats	Re: Overall lack of setlist variety so far I agree that AATW should be played midset more, but it's not like it's a new development that it's closing sets and encores. It's been one of their primary closers since the beginning. __________________ With all its sham, drudgery and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world.

06-16-2014, 08:51 AM	#191
crashintonickdm Watching the wheels Join Date: May 2002 Location: Mount Laurel, NJ Posts: 74,130 Shows Seen: 81 DMB Hub Stubs: 27 My Tour Central Stats	Re: Overall lack of setlist variety so far I've seen stay open, set close, show close and mid set All except set and show closer are way better __________________ -Nick https://www.instagram.com/vinylspinnerlp/

06-16-2014, 08:59 AM	#192
TheStone91 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,389 Shows Seen: 28 DMB Hub Stubs: 14 My Tour Central Stats	Re: Overall lack of setlist variety so far Granny was the set closer last show. There's some variety...it hasn't been a set closer since '93! I love when the band goes out of its comfort zone and changes things up. Hopefully we see some more unique closers going forward (i.e. The Best of What's Around, So Right, Drive In Drive Out, Crush, The Stone, etc.).

06-16-2014, 09:37 AM	#193
Jake17 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 447 Shows Seen: 8 DMB Hub Stubs: 3 My Tour Central Stats	Re: Overall lack of setlist variety so far I saw watchtower midset twice and it was great Stay to open would be money. Danceable, catchy, gets everyone moving, really high energy __________________ CSUCI

06-16-2014, 10:14 AM	#195
stlbluespower DMB 2012 Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 6,443 Shows Seen: 35 DMB Hub Stubs: 16 My Tour Central Stats	Re: Overall lack of setlist variety so far Watchtower is a great song. Agree it is somewhat stale as an encore closer. Would love it midset. Never want to see it go away for too long. Always have wondered.... if Dave/DMB had penned this song, where would it rank on the overall list of DMB songs. Would maybe be right up there in my top 5.

06-16-2014, 10:30 AM	#196
phillybeezler Don't burn the Pig Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Atlanta Posts: 2,448 Shows Seen: 63 DMB Hub Stubs: 22 My Tour Central Stats	Re: Overall lack of setlist variety so far The only time I've actually enjoyed Watchtower was when it was midset at Alpine 2012. But Ill take watchtower over anything BW to close anyday __________________ 2019: Nashville, Alpine, Alpharetta "You're still here? Its over, go home, Go"

06-16-2014, 03:06 PM	#199
sloth Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: CA Posts: 282 Shows Seen: 115 DMB Hub Stubs: 31 My Tour Central Stats	Re: Overall lack of setlist variety so far Last great watchtower I saw. 11/19/2010. Char. Into Halloweenie........mmmmm. We almost left. Doh!

06-16-2014, 03:10 PM	#200
ExistenceNow AM.org Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 89,709 Shows Seen: 117 DMB Hub Stubs: 30 My Tour Central Stats	Re: Overall lack of setlist variety so far Last time I saw Watchtower not close, was 2001, and it segued into Ants, which was pretty awesome. __________________ -Matthew Dallas Tailgate Map

06-16-2014, 03:14 PM	#201
chadizzy1 Rumor Curator Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Central Arkansas Posts: 40,121 Shows Seen: 45 DMB Hub Stubs: 17 My Tour Central Stats	Re: Overall lack of setlist variety so far Seen Watchtower 10 times. 7 times in the encore, 2 times main set closer. 5/23/14 was the only time it wasn't a closer/encore, it was song 17 of 23. Watchtower> Digging A Ditch Grey Street — Sister PNP> Rapunzel

06-20-2014, 07:51 PM	#203
chadizzy1 Rumor Curator Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Central Arkansas Posts: 40,121 Shows Seen: 45 DMB Hub Stubs: 17 My Tour Central Stats	Re: Overall lack of setlist variety so far 6/20 E1: Good Good Time E2: Shake Meh

06-20-2014, 08:00 PM	#204
bowa36 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 13,905 Shows Seen: 0 DMB Hub Stubs: 7 My Tour Central Stats	Because of the electric sets, this is their worst year so far in my opinion __________________ When it's not the colors that matter, but that they'll all fade away

06-20-2014, 08:06 PM	#205
chadizzy1 Rumor Curator Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Central Arkansas Posts: 40,121 Shows Seen: 45 DMB Hub Stubs: 17 My Tour Central Stats	Re: Overall lack of setlist variety so far I'm definitely scaling back next year. I'll go to whatever D&T is close by, but full band - probably only going to an N1/N2 somewhere and that's it.

06-20-2014, 08:13 PM	#206
MaxonBartender Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: BOULDER Posts: 131 Shows Seen: 29 DMB Hub Stubs: 15 My Tour Central Stats	Re: Overall lack of setlist variety so far Here I am thinking Yay Good Good Time full band in an encore 1 slot? Then came Shake Meh and....well you fill in the rest. __________________ What You See is Human...

06-20-2014, 09:01 PM	#208
davem#36 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Rome, GEORGIA Posts: 4,605 Shows Seen: 78 DMB Hub Stubs: 21 My Tour Central Stats	Re: Overall lack of setlist variety so far Tonight was great. Bullshit SMLAM encore but the run from STJL too pnp->RAP was money. Beach all was a incredible surprise. Still fucking ridiculous they continue too end at 10 till tho. __________________ 1st show 7/8/2002 Lakewood amphitheater 70th show 5/21/2022 Lakewood amphitheater What an amazing 20 years. ‘24 ALPHA/ALPINE

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