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Originally Posted by aoeiifreak
While that would obviously be retarded, I think Roger was trying to say "I'm willing to pay more taxes IF" isn't a valid way to make the argument. You have to leave off the "if" because the government is going to use that money however it wants regardless of morals.
Out of all his very questionable posts, this one I think I understand the most.
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I disagree. I think it is a valid way to make an argument. Citizens vote for candidates who likely share their ideas about government (obviously that isn't the case for a lot of people since a lot of people like government services they just don't want to pay for it (for example keeping the pre-existing condition requirement on obamacare)).
Roger incorrectly thinks that liberals shouldn't want the tax breaks because they want more government, full stop. That's the wrong way to look at it. I don't want to spend money on the things that conservatives want to spend money on (military has record spending in the most recent budget) and I also want to fully fund things that americans like (social security, medicare, medicaid etc.) and I also think that the distribution of how the taxes are paid are done incorrectly based on the marginal utility of a dollar.
So looping back to the original paragraph, I don't think a government is going to use money however it wants, it uses it based on the budget set forth and the budget is set by the people we elect. It is not logically inconsistent to say I want to keep my tax return money under the republican budget (because the money I won't be keeping will be spent on things I don't like) whereas I would be OK with not getting the money under a democrat budget (because the money will be spent on things I do like).