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Old 04-24-2018, 12:06 AM   #79591
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no need to get hostile over a post where I was agreeing with you

your shit is tired bc you do the same song and dance every day and night, I don't really ever make pro-union posts so it's not a routine that I do, there's nothing to get tired of, that's the point

you keep fucking that chicken though, it's fine
as long as he keeps the tax/chicago bits going i'm ok with him dropping the 50% bit.

he stopped talking to me about it when I said that the number he chose was arbitrary so i don't get anything out of it
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    like I said I appreciate commitment to the bit, just spice it up maybe
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    Old 04-24-2018, 12:12 AM   #79593
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    otoh, if the alternative to the 50% bit is "black people smell," maybe stick with the original
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    Quite the #rogmelt last night. It’s like he’s running for high priest of the maga cult.
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    Old 04-24-2018, 04:22 AM   #79596
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    Now THAT is a melt. Good work Rog. That's the stuff of legends. That's Hall of RRrider Fame stuff
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    Old 04-24-2018, 05:03 AM   #79597
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    I don't want to live in a police state, I want to live where it's safe. It's just like letting carjackers out of jail after 24 hours when they shouldn't be allowed bail. Same with that kid in TN. We need more prisons so that people serve ther full sentences and, in severe cases, can keep people locked up longer.
    America's the safest it's ever been.

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    So HRC's email server was a big problem, but Trump using his personal cellphone is on the up and up?

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/23/polit...one/index.html
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    Old 04-24-2018, 05:08 AM   #79599
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    So HRC's email server was a big problem, but Trump using his personal cellphone is on the up and up?

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/23/polit...one/index.html
    If trump voters were smart, logical, consistent, and rational with their thinking, they wouldn't be trump voters.
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    Old 04-24-2018, 05:17 AM   #79600
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    AZ-8 has a special election today to replace a US House Rep who resigned after it was found out that he paid a staffer $5M to carry his child. It's extremely likely the GOP holds onto this seat, as the demographic is mainly white, older, and non-union. The GOP candidate also isn't an accused pedophile, which helps. But it does seem likely that the margin of victory is going to be far smaller than recent elections (+37 for Franks in 2016 over a Green Party challenger/unopposed by Dems, +25 for Mitt Romney in 2012, and +21 for Trump in 2016).

    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...cial-election/

    Again, GOP very likely to win, but this will likely continue to stoke the fears the right has of the so-called "blue wave" for the upcoming midterms. Last polls showed 47-44 in favor of the GOP candidate. Assuming the final result is 55-45(ish), that's still an enormous swing leftward for what is an extremely red district (more so than PA-18).
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    Old 04-24-2018, 05:21 AM   #79601
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    Polls have been WAY off in Az8. I'll guess 58-42 for the GOP. I think 55-45 is possible but on the low end.
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    Polls have been WAY off in Az8. I'll guess 58-42 for the GOP. I think 55-45 is possible but on the low end.
    Even 58-42 would be a pretty decent swing left. Point is, the GOP may not want to get complacent just because of holding on to a seat that is more of a deep burgundy than ruby red.
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    Old 04-24-2018, 06:07 AM   #79603
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    More prisons
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    Old 04-24-2018, 06:14 AM   #79604
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    50% increase in military spending
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    Old 04-24-2018, 06:22 AM   #79606
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    50% increase in military spending
    While that would obviously be retarded, I think Roger was trying to say "I'm willing to pay more taxes IF" isn't a valid way to make the argument. You have to leave off the "if" because the government is going to use that money however it wants regardless of morals.

    Out of all his very questionable posts, this one I think I understand the most.
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    Rog tax melts are the best melts.
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    Rog tax melts are the best melts.
    second only to his Obamacare rants
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    That's not what I said I wanted. That was an example of the hypocrisy that you're now mocking.

    Try to keep up, please.
    Sorry Rog, hard to tell whats truth and whats sarcasm when you actually believe there should be more prisons while also believing we can cut the budget by 50%.
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    Old 04-24-2018, 06:27 AM   #79610
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    I think the liberals in here are melting more than Rog.
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    second only to his Obamacare rants
    Ah, true story, didn’t think of those.
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    I think the liberals in here are melting more than Rog.
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    Old 04-24-2018, 06:39 AM   #79613
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    While that would obviously be retarded, I think Roger was trying to say "I'm willing to pay more taxes IF" isn't a valid way to make the argument. You have to leave off the "if" because the government is going to use that money however it wants regardless of morals.

    Out of all his very questionable posts, this one I think I understand the most.
    I disagree. I think it is a valid way to make an argument. Citizens vote for candidates who likely share their ideas about government (obviously that isn't the case for a lot of people since a lot of people like government services they just don't want to pay for it (for example keeping the pre-existing condition requirement on obamacare)).

    Roger incorrectly thinks that liberals shouldn't want the tax breaks because they want more government, full stop. That's the wrong way to look at it. I don't want to spend money on the things that conservatives want to spend money on (military has record spending in the most recent budget) and I also want to fully fund things that americans like (social security, medicare, medicaid etc.) and I also think that the distribution of how the taxes are paid are done incorrectly based on the marginal utility of a dollar.

    So looping back to the original paragraph, I don't think a government is going to use money however it wants, it uses it based on the budget set forth and the budget is set by the people we elect. It is not logically inconsistent to say I want to keep my tax return money under the republican budget (because the money I won't be keeping will be spent on things I don't like) whereas I would be OK with not getting the money under a democrat budget (because the money will be spent on things I do like).
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    So will the supreme court uphold our president’s travel ban?

    I think this process starts tomorrow.
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    So will the supreme court uphold our president’s travel ban?

    I think this process starts tomorrow.
    I thought it was only needed until we could figure out what the hell is going on?

    How long until he figures it out? We are on 15 months now. Put together a plan.
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    I thought it was only needed until we could figure out what the hell is going on?

    How long until he figures it out? We are on 15 months now. Put together a plan.
    Thanks to Hawaii the Supreme Court might make the 3.0 travel ban permanent.
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    Thanks to Hawaii the Supreme Court might make the 3.0 travel ban permanent.
    Is that something that you want?
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    Is that something that you want?
    We most likely won’t have a ruling until June, but I assume the administration has the upper hand.

    I'm impartial as I have not read the details on the latest revision. Honestly I'm going to sit back and let the high court decide before I form any real opinion on the matter.
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    Why would that matter? Do you believe that unions are good? I mean, I know we both know the answer, so not sure what this point is supposed to be.

    We also know that unions killed manufacturing in the USA.

    You tell me where you want to go with this.



    Is this a real question? Do you undersand why people want term limits, even if you don't agree?

    How much were the Clinton's worth going into office as compared to afterwards? What about the Obama's? People are up in arms when it comes to Trump's businesses and his potential confilcts of interests (for good reason, BTW).

    Sometimes it's like people really don't think their questions through.

    If you don't understand that every politician running is trying to get in on the golden goose, then you are just not smart. Sorry to have to deliver the glargingly obvious news but that's the truth.
    Still haven’t answered the question, you just keep,typing to see yourself type I guess. What billionaires have gone into government work to get richer?

    You said they all do it.
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    Old 04-24-2018, 07:03 AM   #79620
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    I disagree. I think it is a valid way to make an argument. Citizens vote for candidates who likely share their ideas about government (obviously that isn't the case for a lot of people since a lot of people like government services they just don't want to pay for it (for example keeping the pre-existing condition requirement on obamacare)).

    Roger incorrectly thinks that liberals shouldn't want the tax breaks because they want more government, full stop. That's the wrong way to look at it. I don't want to spend money on the things that conservatives want to spend money on (military has record spending in the most recent budget) and I also want to fully fund things that americans like (social security, medicare, medicaid etc.) and I also think that the distribution of how the taxes are paid are done incorrectly based on the marginal utility of a dollar.

    So looping back to the original paragraph, I don't think a government is going to use money however it wants, it uses it based on the budget set forth and the budget is set by the people we elect. It is not logically inconsistent to say I want to keep my tax return money under the republican budget (because the money I won't be keeping will be spent on things I don't like) whereas I would be OK with not getting the money under a democrat budget (because the money will be spent on things I do like).
    One of the better posts I've seen in here in a while, which is almost sad because it's so obvious but at least someone took the time to spell it out.
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