The NHL Thread

[TMoore4075]

Originally Posted by fonzz41

Yeah Tim, I totally agree about feeling bad for Bertuzzi. I used to hate the guy (obviously), but that hatred has turned more to pity. He was never able to get his career back on track to the level he was at, and he's never been (and will never be) able to live that incident down. No matter what he does, he will always be that guy who got pissed and ended Steve Moore's career basically before it had really begun. On one hand, I ask (and he probably asks) how long he's required to suffer before he's atoned for his actions? Unfortunately, probably never. That's too bad. That's the "mercy" side of me.

The other part of me, however, thinks about how Bert is still making millions of dollars playing hockey while Moore is not. This is the "justice" side of me that thinks "The least Bert can do is feel bad and take some ridicule while Moore sits at home with physical damage unable to play and even function normally."

Not saying either the "justice" or "mercy" sides of me are completely right... they are just the normal spectrum of human emotions I run through when I think about this situation.

This is well put. Bert is your Lemieux. Claude didn't end Draper's career thankfully but the hatred from both sides i there. I have a lot more respect for The Turtle...errr Lemieux than I used to. That interview he did with McCarty was great. When you hear them, without all the emotion that they had going on for years after that hit, you see both sides of it.

With ya on the money thing. Still amazed we're 10 years later and this whole trial thing still hasn't been resolved.

Originally Posted by Rebecca De Mornay

guys the hockey thread is just great.
outside of Tim randomly lashing out at the jackets last night we always proceed with very sophisticated and interesting discussion, even when we don't agree.

You're gonna get those tomorrow when the Jackets play, and especially Tuesday.

[fonzz41]

Originally Posted by hailtopitt

we should do an ants.org NHL meat up

hit up a few arenas, get weird

Would love that. Wanted to get everyone together for Foote's jersey retirement, but you losers all pussed out. Schreibs I can understand - he would have to turn in his Jackets fan card if he participated in something celebrating anything regarding Adam Foote. But the rest of you... I feel betrayed.

An outdoor game Ants meet-up would be awesome.

Originally Posted by Rebecca De Mornay

Are you Mormon matty or do you just not drink?

Both.

[hailtopitt]

i've always wanted to go to the saddle dome, by far my favorite arena in the league

joe lewis and MSG would be cool too, although i hear the joe is a shit hole now

wish the forum was still around

[Rebecca De Mornay]

i want to see a game in montreal

edit: and chicago

[TMoore4075]

Originally Posted by hailtopitt

i've always wanted to go to the saddle dome, by far my favorite arena in the league

joe lewis and MSG would be cool too, although i hear the joe is a shit hole now

wish the forum was still around

JLA has always been a shit hole. Seats are tight, bathrooms are scarce but for a playoff game...awesome. I can't imagine there is an arena with better sight line than Joe Louis. The newer ones are pretty good, ACC and Nationwide are two I've been to. A lot built in the late 80's and early 90's went for hugeness and suites and didn't care that you felt a mile away sitting at the top.

[hailtopitt]

Originally Posted by Rebecca De Mornay

i want to see a game in montreal

edit: and chicago

yea i hear montreal is a cool town too, but it's not the same without the forum


chi-town would be cool just for the national anthem

[fonzz41]

Originally Posted by Rebecca De Mornay

i want to see a game in montreal

edit: and chicago

Chicago would be cool. Let's plan on that.

We could all crash at Bron, Chris, and Bonzo's houses. I'll be the DD.

[Rebecca De Mornay]

Originally Posted by hailtopitt

yea i hear montreal is a cool town too, but it's not the same without the forum


chi-town would be cool just for the national anthem

yep, had i gone to that game last night i would have been leaving shortly after the anthem.

[TMoore4075]

Originally Posted by Rebecca De Mornay

i want to see a game in montreal

edit: and chicago

Habs fans are huge douche bags in general would be my problem. Winnipeg would be a great place because it's so small compared to other arenas.

[hailtopitt]

Originally Posted by TMoore4075

JLA has always been a shit hole. Seats are tight, bathrooms are scarce but for a playoff game...awesome. I can't imagine there is an arena with better sight line than Joe Louis. The newer ones are pretty good, ACC and Nationwide are two I've been to. A lot built in the late 80's and early 90's went for hugeness and suites and didn't care that you felt a mile away sitting at the top.

yea, that's one nice thing about the consol, it may be very white collar and new-age, but the sight lines are great and, at least from i can tell on TV, has the best lighting in the league

too bad the regular season crowds are sushi-eating, indifferent, always on my cell phone asshole

[TMoore4075]

Originally Posted by fonzz41

Chicago would be cool. Let's plan on that.

We could all crash at Bron, Chris, and Bonzo's houses. I'll be the DD.

Plenty of public transit in Chicago. Honestly I barely drink anymore myself. Especially at hockey games, or any entertainment venue for that matter. Damn those prices are stupid.

[hailtopitt]

Originally Posted by TMoore4075

Habs fans are huge douche bags in general would be my problem. Winnipeg would be a great place because it's so small compared to other arenas.

agreed but i would only want to go there in early october or may/june

[Rebecca De Mornay]

people eat sushi at a hockey game?

nationwide arena is fun, you all are always welcome to come to a game here.

[TMoore4075]

Originally Posted by hailtopitt

yea, that's one nice thing about the consol, it may be very white collar and new-age, but the sight lines are great and, at least from i can tell on TV, has the best lighting in the league

too bad the regular season crowds are sushi-eating, indifferent, always on my cell phone asshole

When hockey was at it's high point here, like 97-2004, the Detroit crowds were like that. Pretty quiet during the regular season unless the Avs were town. I find regular season games to be much more energetic now than they used to be.

[TMoore4075]

Originally Posted by hailtopitt

agreed but i would only want to go there in early october or may/june

Oh yeah. Can't imagine January there. Or in Edmonton or Calgary for that matter.

[hailtopitt]

Originally Posted by TMoore4075

When hockey was at it's high point here, like 97-2004, the Detroit crowds were like that. Pretty quiet during the regular season unless the Avs were town. I find regular season games to be much more energetic now than they used to be.

sigh...i miss the igloo

Originally Posted by TMoore4075

Oh yeah. Can't imagine January there. Or in Edmonton or Calgary for that matter.

yea, the jets should play every game outdoors, talk about home ice advantage

[Rebecca De Mornay]

the first NHL game i ever went to was in the old boston garden.
that place was incredible.

[hailtopitt]

Originally Posted by Rebecca De Mornay

the first NHL game i ever went to was in the old boston garden.
that place was incredible.

great first arena to go to

[TMoore4075]

Originally Posted by Rebecca De Mornay

the first NHL game i ever went to was in the old boston garden.
that place was incredible.

That would have been cool. Really wanted to go to a game at Maple Leaf Gardens back in the day. ACC is really nice though. The concourse is as wide as a two lane highway. Doesn't feel like 20k people are there. I like that it also has an upstairs concourse too, like Nationwide. Makes it not so packed.

[fonzz41]

We interrupt this conversation with a special report:

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Apparently this happened back in January, but no one really cared.

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We now take you back to your normally scheduled programming.

[barbogast]

Only arena I've seen an NHL game other than MCI/Verizon is MSG. Saw the Caps win a 6-5 thriller back in '10 I think it was. Had a freaking blast. Such a cool arena. So different from what I'm used to (the newness of Verizon)

[hailtopitt]

Originally Posted by fonzz41

We interrupt this conversation with a special report:

Mrs. Fonzz41 reports that today she saw that Hillary Duff and Mike Comrie have separated.

Apparently this happened back in January, but no one really cared.

At least we've still got Carrie and Mike Underwood.

We now take you back to your normally scheduled programming.

is lizzie maguire still a cow?

[Rebecca De Mornay]

i wouldn't mind seeing a game in the phone booth actually.

going to a panthers game would be fun too, puts you in pretty exclusive company, like going to the moon.

[fonzz41]

Originally Posted by hailtopitt

is lizzie maguire still a cow?

Has to be if she divorced a [former] hockey player...

Originally Posted by Rebecca De Mornay

going to a panthers game would be fun too, puts you in pretty exclusive company, like going to the moon.

Perfect. We wouldn't even have to reserve seats... I think you just seat yourself there.

[TMoore4075]

Originally Posted by Rebecca De Mornay

i wouldn't mind seeing a game in the phone booth actually.

going to a panthers game would be fun too, puts you in pretty exclusive company, like going to the moon.

I know when the Wings were there recently, there were huge empty sections. Should be cheap.

[barbogast]

Originally Posted by Rebecca De Mornay

i wouldn't mind seeing a game in the phone booth actually.

going to a panthers game would be fun too, puts you in pretty exclusive company, like going to the moon.

It was much more fun a couple years ago. I've only been once this year but it was pretty dull

Caps fans are so wishy washy, it doesn't take much for them to lose interest

[fonzz41]

Originally Posted by TMoore4075

This is well put. Bert is your Lemieux. Claude didn't end Draper's career thankfully but the hatred from both sides i there. I have a lot more respect for The Turtle...errr Lemieux than I used to. That interview he did with McCarty was great. When you hear them, without all the emotion that they had going on for years after that hit, you see both sides of it.

I haven't seen this interview. Will look it up.

[TMoore4075]

Originally Posted by fonzz41

I haven't seen this interview. Will look it up.

I swore you'd have seen it.

Here it is...well part 1.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQUHg_fPRto

[fonzz41]

Originally Posted by TMoore4075

I swore you'd have seen it.

Here it is...well part 1.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQUHg_fPRto

Watching now.

Nope, somehow missed it. Can't believe it was four years ago and I haven't heard of it until today!

Turrrrrible fan right here.

[fonzz41]

Just finished watching all four parts. Thanks

Again, the great thing about hockey. They can respectfully sit and talk about it. No accusations, no mincing words. Honest, just chatting about it. Love it.