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Old 02-26-2021, 04:33 PM   #61
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Just allow some fans in and charge $10 per live stream.
Youíd need to sell a lot of streams to make up that difference.
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    We'll have to wait and see how serious this variant business is. Many are predicting a major surge in the US in the timeframe of about April. Is this based on anything truthful, or is it media fear porn? Who the fuck knows? But it is a possibility.

    I am going to say I am not worried about these variants. The way I understand it, the vaccines work well on all of these variants, with varying success depending on the strains. But since zero covid is not a realistic strategy anyway, it shouldn't matter. Once the majority of people are vaccinated or get covid, we should be approaching herd immunity. The vulnerable and elderly population will certainly be safe, and the load will have been lifted off the hospitals. That was supposed to be the entire point of the lockdowns and restrictions... right?

    The other problem is that the shows this fall are in states like California, Oregon and Washington... full capacity shows may still not fly there by September. Whereas they could probably do the south and midwest without any problem during that time. So it will be interesting to see what unfolds. I am still not convinced they will play shows this year. They can plan all they want, but a lot of things would have to go right in order for that to happen.
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    You’d need to sell a lot of streams to make up that difference.
    But location and seating capacities aren’t hurdles to attend a livestream. Maybe not $10, but you can significantly reduce the price.
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    Old 02-26-2021, 05:29 PM   #64
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    Looks likely? I wouldnít go that far. More like maybe possible. Although your initial prediction on the corona shit was pretty spot on. I was hoping you were dead ass wrong last year at this time. Now this year Iím hoping you are correct.
    Yeah I remember that, i was one of the first to raise the possibility of shows being cancelled and people said ďyouíre crazyĒ lol. I really wanted to be wrong too.

    But look, at some point weíll have to learn to live with it. I think as long as we get booster shots every fall like we do with the flu, weíll have a normal-ish late summer and fall.
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    But location and seating capacities arenít hurdles to attend a livestream. Maybe not $10, but you can significantly reduce the price.
    Sure, Iíve said all along itís a financial decision. If you have 50 percent capacity, can you sell enough streams to make up the difference, across a tour? I donít know, but I have my doubts.
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    Old 02-26-2021, 05:34 PM   #66
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    Just so I don't my resident cynic card, of course a CEO is going to be optimistic on an earnings call. "Hey, investors and shareholders... you're all fucked!"
    I'll believe it when my vaccinated ass is tailgating in Dallas.
    Itís amazing dallas didnít require a vaccine before all of this.
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    Old 02-26-2021, 05:34 PM   #67
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    Sure, Iíve said all along itís a financial decision. If you have 50 percent capacity, can you sell enough streams to make up the difference, across a tour? I donít know, but I have my doubts.
    The DMB Couch Tour steams I think got above 10,000 at any given time, and several of them have over 100,000 views. Now the key difference is that those were free, but who knows what will happen.
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    Old 02-26-2021, 05:41 PM   #68
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    Hypothetically, let’s say you are trying to make up a difference of 5,000 tickets, with an average price of $100 (between pavs and lawns). At $10 a piece that’s 50,000 people per stream. Seems crazy to me.
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    Old 02-26-2021, 06:56 PM   #69
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    The DMB Couch Tour steams I think got above 10,000 at any given time, and several of them have over 100,000 views. Now the key difference is that those were free, but who knows what will happen.
    Wait, couch tour streams do 10k people live? I find that super hard to believe.

    Personally, I think you're completely over estimating the number of people that would buy the stream. If the world is half way back to normal, which we are approaching in some areas, I think I would do just about anything on a summer night (i.e., go out to dinner, grab a drink, anything really outside of my house), then purposefully stay in to buy and watch a live stream of a show. DMB would be the fall back plan.
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    Hypothetically, letís say you are trying to make up a difference of 5,000 tickets, with an average price of $100 (between pavs and lawns). At $10 a piece thatís 50,000 people per stream. Seems crazy to me.

    The venue is really the ones who pay. They make their money on the back end, through Parking, Food & the Biggie....Beverages.


    All sides have incentive to compromise in order to make it work.


    I still think 75%+ capacity shows in August is a stretch. That's less than 6 months away. That's definitely a best case scenario. I agree with the part about stretching out until close to year end. I don't doubt Live Nation will push hard to open some venues by August, if we continue to see improvement over the next 2-3 months.
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    Old 02-26-2021, 07:01 PM   #71
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    Taylor summer tour from last summer cancelled this year?
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    Old 02-26-2021, 07:09 PM   #72
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    The venue is really the ones who pay. They make their money on the back end, through Parking, Food & the Biggie....Beverages.


    All sides have incentive to compromise in order to make it work.


    I still think 75%+ capacity shows in August is a stretch. That's less than 6 months away. That's definitely a best case scenario. I agree with the part about stretching out until close to year end. I don't doubt Live Nation will push hard to open some venues by August, if we continue to see improvement over the next 2-3 months.
    Of course thatís how the venue makes money, wasnít talking about the venue.
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    Old 02-27-2021, 01:38 AM   #73
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    Taylor Swift decided that the 4 Sold Out Stadium shows originally scheduled for last summer in CA & MA, won't be rescheduled, and are now cancelled.
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    Yeah I remember that, i was one of the first to raise the possibility of shows being cancelled and people said ďyouíre crazyĒ lol. I really wanted to be wrong too.

    But look, at some point weíll have to learn to live with it. I think as long as we get booster shots every fall like we do with the flu, weíll have a normal-ish late summer and fall.
    The reason is because it seemed like a ďdeathly diseaseĒ hits every couple of years. I just thought you were looking into it a little much. I remÓember in early January I was reading another message board, and someone posted a thread about covid. I saw a video in the thread where they were spaying down the streets in China and I honesty didnít think much of it. I felt like I have seen that happen before. I donít think a lot of people did think much of it at that time.

    It got some news coverage, but wasnít the Huge news story it is today, until about March. Thatís when the thread for the potential canceling the tour got started. I figured that since the NCAA Tournament was still planning to go on as normal, I figured concerts would go on. Then things really changed overnight. The NCAAT got cancelled and so did all of sports for a while. Even when they were canceling sports, I still couldnít have imagined this whole social distancing, shut downs, and mask wearing thing. I remember around March 12ish I went out to eat for my friends birthday, and that was the last time I ate in a restaurant until July. The grocery store I work at was slammed ever single day in the month of March. You couldnít find toilet paper, hand sanitizer, or cleaning products. Just madness. Lots of people were maskless too. Just Jammed until closing time. I donít know how I never got covid with the masses of people I came in contact with back in March. This was before the mask mandates. Just wrists times where nobody knew exactly joss de
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    Just wrists times where nobody knew exactly joss de
    Are you okay, Tyler? Did you fall asleep in the middle of this sentence?
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    Old 02-27-2021, 02:57 AM   #76
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    Look I fell asleep at the end of that post. But yeah good prediction Danny. It was hard to see what was to come at the beginning.
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    Are you okay, Tyler? Did you fall asleep in the middle of this sentence?
    Yes Iím exhausted haha
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    Old 02-27-2021, 03:10 AM   #78
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    Yes I’m exhausted haha
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    Old 02-27-2021, 01:29 PM   #79
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    Itís amazing dallas didnít require a vaccine before all of this.

    They should definitely be requiring current tetanus and hepatitis vaccines for anyone sitting on the lawn.
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    Iím pretty sure deer creek offers tetanus toppers at their daiquiri stand. Just a little added protection.
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    With a little more than 3 months to go until the scheduled start of the 2021 Summer Tour when we get news of any cancellations or confirmation that the shows (or any of them) will go on??
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    Old 03-01-2021, 09:25 PM   #82
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    With a little more than 3 months to go until the scheduled start of the 2021 Summer Tour when we get news of any cancellations or confirmation that the shows (or any of them) will go on??
    Looked like last year was first thing in May.
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    Old 03-02-2021, 07:57 AM   #83
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    I assume they have a date that is their point of no return. Whenever it is, we won't hear anything until after that date. They're probably trying to figure out if there is any way than can do some kind of shows.

    Things are looking up. Cases numbers are down, vaccinations are rising. My parents get their first round this week. But I feel like the media are saying "Can we please have another surge this spring? PLEASE?? Look... cases have kind of plateaued, right?? Does that mean the variants are going to wreck society all over again? COVID-21, anyone??"
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    I assume they have a date that is their point of no return. Whenever it is, we won't hear anything until after that date. They're probably trying to figure out if there is any way than can do some kind of shows.

    Things are looking up. Cases numbers are down, vaccinations are rising. My parents get their first round this week. But I feel like the media are saying "Can we please have another surge this spring? PLEASE?? Look... cases have kind of plateaued, right?? Does that mean the variants are going to wreck society all over again? COVID-21, anyone??"
    I'm sure you're right about the date of no return...... sure would like to know what that is. I'm think by earlier April. Just a guess.......
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    Austin City Limits released it's dates today. Planning to do their typical first two weekends in October bit.

    I'm actually somewhat confident. I'm also getting the vaccine today though so maybe that's it.
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    Old 03-02-2021, 09:09 AM   #86
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    Between Camden and PNC here in NJ.. I am 90% sure that those dates are not happening.. I do like the live stream idea but I am looking at big picture...Why go at 10%-15% capacity now rather then just wait another year to possibly be at 70%-80% capacity.

    I miss live music just as much as you guys do..I have a Fiance in charge of respiratory for multiple Hospitals in the area...we are not really close to being out of the woods as of yet..I would rather be patient for a little while longer and go when I know when it is safer rather than just rush back out there just because i miss hearing the boys live.

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    Old 03-02-2021, 09:22 AM   #87
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    I miss live music just as much as you guys do..I have a Fiance in charge of respiratory for multiple Hospitals in the area...we are not really close to being out of the woods as of yet..I would rather be patient for a little while longer and go when I know when it is safer rather than just rush back out there just because i miss hearing the boys live.
    That's the thing though - nothing stops you from waiting - you're more than welcome to wait another year if you're uncomfortable.
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    Old 03-02-2021, 09:57 AM   #88
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    Austin City Limits released it's dates today. Planning to do their typical first two weekends in October bit.

    I'm actually somewhat confident. I'm also getting the vaccine today though so maybe that's it.
    Plenty of reason to be confident. Lots of good news coming and more every day.
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    The only way I'd feel comfortable going to shows this year is if venues required

    A) temperature / symptom checking upon entry
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    B) COVID vaccine cards showing either one dose vaccine or both doses of a two dose vaccine

    But without that, until most of the country is vaccinated, I don't plan on going to any concerts. Even if it means missing a show here in even my home state.

    We have an autoimmune child, so I can't risk bringing home COVID.
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    Plenty of reason to be confident. Lots of good news coming and more every day.
    It really hinges on what happens in the next month or two. Will this spring surge be a thing? Will variant fear porn spook people enough to make them air on the side of caution?

    I really think they need to just set a goal, say Labor Day weekend, for full capacity events to happen, and just make it happen.
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