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Old 02-24-2021, 06:53 PM   #8581
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I like that little China club show.
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    It's hyped up a lot around here, and rightfully so I say. Some of the best performances come from this night. The only track released from this show is Crush on the very first Warehouse 5. It's the best version of Crush in my opinion, sounds so much like the studio version. Check out that track and it gives you a good idea what the rest of the show sounds like.

    As for the LT100 selection, I just think it'd be cool to have LT1 be 12.8.98 and LT100 be 12.7.98.

    I have listened the WH5 vol.1 Crush - I don’t know if this is the best Crush ever, but for sure is a 5⭐️ version.
    Technically perfect, BT in the right spot, Dave sings beautifully, and Tim solo is excellent.

    I went to the reviews of that show in Tour Central, and this is what I’ve found.

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    “The best Dave show I've seen. There was an incredible jam "duel" between Bela Fleck and Tim Reynolds on Two Step, it was absolutely amazing”.
    ——
    “This was my second show and I was AMAZED.... this truly was a great with an incredible finale of Halloween with Tim Reynolds on electric guitar”
    ——
    “Great first show. Nice Recently opener. Great Nancies/Warehouse as well but the real treat was the extended Two Step with Tim and Bela dueling followed by a mega long LIOG. Also, the holiday encore was great. Amazing full band (w/ Tim)version of Halloween”

    Apparently, this is a top fall ‘98 show, and ‘98 is a top DMB tour.
    From the sound quality of Crush on WH5 vol.1, it was also recorded in good quality (so as LT1), so they DO HAVE something in their closet, probably they are just thinking when is the right time to take it out.

    I do like the circular idea: Live Trax series starting with LT1 in Worcester night 2, and ending with LT100 (around 2030) in in Worcester night 2. But we all are gonna be dead by that time (just kidding).
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    Old 02-25-2021, 05:45 AM   #8583
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    Yeah, 12/7 is an all timer.
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    I would love a Dave and Tim show from 2017
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    I don't know if its the covers as much as they would have to pay royalties to a good handful of non-DMB musicians, have them sign off on it, etc.
    Ohhhhhh.... gotcha. That makes sense. Thank ya kindly!
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    Old 02-25-2021, 10:28 AM   #8586
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    This is more related to the bad blood within the band during this period.

    At least that’s the popular speculation.
    This makes sense, too...I appreciate it. Thank you!
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    Old 02-25-2021, 10:33 AM   #8587
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    Series is cancelled. Too many fans never happy with what's released, so they are done trying.
    Bah hahahahahaha
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    Old 02-25-2021, 10:35 AM   #8588
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    I’d take a 17 Dave and Tim show
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    I would love a Dave and Tim show from 2017
    Why didn’t we get one then? I’d think maybe this year we’ll get one.
    Perhaps.
    Everyday tour
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    D&T ‘17
    Maybe D&F will finally happen if we’re lucky.
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    I would love a Dave and Tim show from 2017
    I would love a Dave and Tim show from 2017!
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    This makes sense, too...I appreciate it. Thank you!
    What period are you referring to? 05-07? When you go back and listen to those shows in 06 and the Vegas shows in 07 it's like Dave is depressed/angry when he talks.. No joy in his stage banter compared to 08 and beyond...
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    This is more related to the bad blood within the band during this period.

    At least that’s the popular speculation.
    I don't think there as bad blood in 03/04 was there? Unless you're saying the Dave solo, D&F stuff sparked it... I thought the band was made post 05... They released their worst album to date and immediately tried to get back to new material in 06, by the end of that tour it could have been over is my understanding. They got roped in to play the Vegas shows in March 07 in an attempt to save the band... But then cancelled their Australian spring tour... The Vegas shows must have worked because they announced the summer tour shortly thereafter... But it was way later than usual and they didn't seem like they'd enjoyed it all that much. 07 has a handful of good shows but definitely lacked the normal energy that a DMB show would provide. I think this was due to songs like Eh Hee, Cornbread, Sister, YMDT, Hunger For The Great light filling up setlists and the band/fans not into it. Yet every single fucking show these turds showed up on the set... I'd be mad too.
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    I don't think there as bad blood in 03/04 was there? Unless you're saying the Dave solo, D&F stuff sparked it... I thought the band was made post 05... They released their worst album to date and immediately tried to get back to new material in 06, by the end of that tour it could have been over is my understanding. They got roped in to play the Vegas shows in March 07 in an attempt to save the band... But then cancelled their Australian spring tour... The Vegas shows must have worked because they announced the summer tour shortly thereafter... But it was way later than usual and they didn't seem like they'd enjoyed it all that much. 07 has a handful of good shows but definitely lacked the normal energy that a DMB show would provide. I think this was due to songs like Eh Hee, Cornbread, Sister, YMDT, Hunger For The Great light filling up setlists and the band/fans not into it. Yet every single fucking show these turds showed up on the set... I'd be mad too.
    2007 was shorter summer tour because Dave’s son was born that June.
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    What do we think? Friday announcement?
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    What do we think? Friday announcement?
    I hope! Feels like it's been a while since we've gotten any news, but I know Fridays are often the time they announce these types of things.
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    I don't think there as bad blood in 03/04 was there? Unless you're saying the Dave solo, D&F stuff sparked it... I thought the band was made post 05... They released their worst album to date and immediately tried to get back to new material in 06, by the end of that tour it could have been over is my understanding. They got roped in to play the Vegas shows in March 07 in an attempt to save the band... But then cancelled their Australian spring tour... The Vegas shows must have worked because they announced the summer tour shortly thereafter... But it was way later than usual and they didn't seem like they'd enjoyed it all that much. 07 has a handful of good shows but definitely lacked the normal energy that a DMB show would provide. I think this was due to songs like Eh Hee, Cornbread, Sister, YMDT, Hunger For The Great light filling up setlists and the band/fans not into it. Yet every single fucking show these turds showed up on the set... I'd be mad too.

    I’ve never went to much in digging into this part of DMB history, the “post STAND UP crisis”, and don’t know if there is a specific thread about it.
    For sure it is an important part, and it is interesting to know what had happened at that time.

    The guys were really thinking of splitting up, Dave and Fonz talk about it from min 8 of ep.4 of this beautiful documentary “the Road to Big Whiskey“.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=9xUEovuYV7I

    Apparently they have reached a bottom, made up of anger and difficulty to communicate each other.
    Vegas 07 (April 22, 2007) show, immediately followed by the European tour, was the point when they, somehow, found new energy.

    The first time that I saw DMB live, imagine that, was on may 25, 2007 at Pavilhao Atlantico, Lisbon (Live Trax), and I couldn’t notice anything of that. The band put an incredible energy on stage, the crowd was so loud and enthusiastic, that Portugal 2007 turned out to be the greatest show I’ve seen so far.

    I like to rewatch all of that, years later, as a turning point for the band, that maybe the guys were changing their mind also because of the amazing amount of energy and affection of that short European tour (consider that it was the first in ten years, you can imagine the impatience) and those amazing nights. Maybe they said “what the hell, look at these guys, we cannot just quit and disappear”. Probably it is not true, but I like to think like that.
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    it would be great to get a 2 night stand released again. at the very least though, they really should do a bonus disc, especially to encourage pre-orders. one of the reasons i revisit LT28 (c'ville 2010) and LT31 (camden 2001) so often is because i was able to create playlists where I swap out the duds with standout bonus tracks. the great mixes of both shows also helps.
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    it would be great to get a 2 night stand released again. at the very least though, they really should do a bonus disc, especially to encourage pre-orders. one of the reasons i revisit LT28 (c'ville 2010) and LT31 (camden 2001) so often is because i was able to create playlists where I swap out the duds with standout bonus tracks. the great mixes of both shows also helps.
    Yes. Three things I’d like to see.
    *Back to two nights.
    *Those that had one night released be reissued and have the entire run (I have MSG ‘02 & Alpine ‘15 which both fall in that category.
    *Special series where shows are released that have no tape circulating
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    What period are you referring to? 05-07? When you go back and listen to those shows in 06 and the Vegas shows in 07 it's like Dave is depressed/angry when he talks.. No joy in his stage banter compared to 08 and beyond...
    It seemed to me like Roi just wasn't feeling it much the last few years. I know that's not a popular opinion, but especially Vegas '07, some of his playing was just... really uninspired. Don't get me wrong, he still played wonderfully his last few years, but it just didn't seem to be up to the Roi standard.
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    It seemed to me like Roi just wasn't feeling it much the last few years. I know that's not a popular opinion, but especially Vegas '07, some of his playing was just... really uninspired. Don't get me wrong, he still played wonderfully his last few years, but it just didn't seem to be up to the Roi standard.

    That wasn’t an uncommon opinion from ‘06-‘08 - lots of people commented about his lack of engagement, mailing it in, etc.


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    07 for sure. There’s some really strong 06/08 performances. That’s another reason why 08 was a gut punch. He seemed fully engaged again
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    It seemed to me like Roi just wasn't feeling it much the last few years. I know that's not a popular opinion, but especially Vegas '07, some of his playing was just... really uninspired. Don't get me wrong, he still played wonderfully his last few years, but it just didn't seem to be up to the Roi standard.

    It sounds bad to say now but when I left the '07 tour opener I couldn't believe how disengaged and borderline unprofessional Roi was, just seemed like he didn't give a shit at all, randomly walked on and off stage throughout songs. A lot of people in the lots afterwards thought something was really off with the band. At N2 SPAC '08 they were on fire, everyone was into it, driven and inspired performance, completely different and I couldn't believe the difference.
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    07 for sure. There’s some really strong 06/08 performances. That’s another reason why 08 was a gut punch. He seemed fully engaged again
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    It's no secret that they were on the verge of breaking up in 2006-2007. Whatever Roi did to convince Dave to "be a leader" or whatever really worked. June 2008 was a really great month, especially comparing it to the previous two summers. Don't get me wrong, there were still some great moments in 06-07 (LT42 comes to mind) But they seem to have been fully back on board by 2008.
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    http://dmbalmanac.com/TourShowSet.as...117&where=2012
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    Sweet
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    Don't Drink the Water
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    Sweet
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    Don't Drink the Water
    Beach Ball
    #41 »
    Funny the Way It Is
    Mercy
    Lie in Our Graves
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    So Much to Say »
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    Is that the one you want? That’s LT55?
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    Is LT55 Hartford 5/26/12? Setlist was posted on here with no explanation

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    Is LT55 Hartford 5/26/12? Setlist was posted on here with no explanation
    I don't think so. Just because someone posts a random setlist doesn't mean its the next LT
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    It seemed to me like Roi just wasn't feeling it much the last few years. I know that's not a popular opinion, but especially Vegas '07, some of his playing was just... really uninspired. Don't get me wrong, he still played wonderfully his last few years, but it just didn't seem to be up to the Roi standard.
    Roi 05-07 was downright bad at times. Revisionist history has kind of taken over since he passed but some of his playing in those years was laughably sloppy and usually pretty dull. 08 it seemed like he was getting back into it and he makes LT13 stand out. They need to release Hershey 08 at some point. His next to last show and featured much more than his final show.
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    Is LT55 Hartford 5/26/12? Setlist was posted on here with no explanation
    I wish, it was the best show I’ve personally seen.
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