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Old 05-02-2018, 11:55 PM   #1
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Biggest Factor That Will Determine If Come Tomorrow Is Good

Bear with me here.

-UTTAD, Crash, BTCS all had solos. All awesome records.
-Busted Stuff, Away From The World had a few solos. Good records.
-Big Whiskey had few solos. Not that great of a record (with the exception of a few songs).
-Everyday, Stand Up did not have solos. These are the band's worst records.

The band has wonderful soloists- Jeff, Rashawn, Tim, and Carter. If they're allowed to stretch their improvisational legs and actually solo, it'll be a good album.

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    Re: Biggest Factor That Will Determine If Come Tomorrow Is Good

    If they're ingrained into the songs' structure and don't feel racked on...then yes!
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    I'm guessing we can cross any Boyd solo's off the list
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    Re: Biggest Factor That Will Determine If Come Tomorrow Is Good

    Quality lyrics
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    Re: Biggest Factor That Will Determine If Come Tomorrow Is Good

    It all hinges on bkdkdkdd.
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    Re: Biggest Factor That Will Determine If Come Tomorrow Is Good

    Solos don't determine a songs worth, I think Everyday is far better than AFTW and Big Whiskey, and I just care about there being good songs produced / mixed reasonably well
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    If they're ingrained into the songs' structure and don't feel racked on...then yes!
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    Quality lyrics


    Oh for the love of God...

    The actual music, flow, and mixing/production value are what will make it good or not.
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    Solos don't determine a songs worth, I think Everyday is far better than AFTW and Big Whiskey, and I just care about there being good songs produced / mixed reasonably well
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    Re: Biggest Factor That Will Determine If Come Tomorrow Is Good

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    Quality lyrics
    While I don't like trite lyrics...if this is the top of your list, I honestly don't know how you enjoy music.
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    Re: Biggest Factor That Will Determine If Come Tomorrow Is Good

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    Oh for the love of God...

    The actual music, flow, and mixing/production value are what will make it good or not.
    Melody, which has been Dave's weakest point will probably be a key factor for my enjoyment of the album. It's where AFTW fell the most short.
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    Old 05-03-2018, 06:05 AM   #12
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    Re: Biggest Factor That Will Determine If Come Tomorrow Is Good

    Biggest factor is whether or not I like it.
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    Old 05-03-2018, 06:05 AM   #13
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    Re: Biggest Factor That Will Determine If Come Tomorrow Is Good

    For me, upbeat music. AFTW was very slow sounding with nothing that could get a crowd jacked up. It only takes 2-3 songs for me. Since I know what bob law and idea of you sound like, thats a great step forward for me.
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    Old 05-03-2018, 06:28 AM   #14
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    Re: Biggest Factor That Will Determine If Come Tomorrow Is Good

    I still liked Everyday even though it didn’t have any solos. I think what matter most are production and songwriting quality.
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    Re: Biggest Factor That Will Determine If Come Tomorrow Is Good

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    Biggest factor is whether or not I like it.


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    Re: Biggest Factor That Will Determine If Come Tomorrow Is Good

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    Bear with me here.

    -UTTAD, Crash, BTCS all had solos. All awesome records.
    -Busted Stuff, Away From The World had a few solos. Good records.
    -Big Whiskey had few solos. Not that great of a record (with the exception of a few songs).
    -Everyday, Stand Up did not have solos. These are the band's worst records.

    The band has wonderful soloists- Jeff, Rashawn, Tim, and Carter. If they're allowed to stretch their improvisational legs and actually solo, it'll be a good album.

    What do you think?
    I completely agree with this assessment. My favorite DMB songs have always been the songs that have room to breathe and my favorite versions have been the ones with the best solos. If all the songs are cookie cutter 3-5min songs, I'll probably be disappointed.

    Edit: That said, I'll probably still enjoy the album..just not as optimally as I would with beautiful solos.
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    Re: Biggest Factor That Will Determine If Come Tomorrow Is Good

    Here me out here... but the bigger factor the will determine if this album is good is.... if the songs are........good.
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    Re: Biggest Factor That Will Determine If Come Tomorrow Is Good

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    It all hinges on bkdkdkdd.
    Can't wait for the future "Our first dance was to bkdkdkdd". Or "listen here sonny, you were conceived to bkdkdkdd". Or even better "I fell in love with her as I looked into her eyes, sitting by the fire, listening to bkdkdkdd".
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    Re: Biggest Factor That Will Determine If Come Tomorrow Is Good

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    Oh for the love of God...

    The actual music, flow, and mixing/production value are what will make it good or not.
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    While I don't like trite lyrics...if this is the top of your list, I honestly don't know how you enjoy music.
    I just feel like with the exception of a few turds here and there DMB's music has always been great. I feel like the main difference between DMB's albums has been lyrics.

    Would the big three still be the big three if he was singing about head behind the miller shed and belly jelly? Doubtful
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    This is silly. Crap songs with solos are still crap. Good songs without solos are still good.
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    While I don't like trite lyrics...if this is the top of your list, I honestly don't know how you enjoy music.

    Maybe he enjoys music with good lyrics?
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    Lyrics are big for me.

    It's hard for me to get into a song if it has terrible lyrics.
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    Can't wait for the future "Our first dance was to bkdkdkdd". Or "listen here sonny, you were conceived to bkdkdkdd". Or even better "I fell in love with her as I looked into her eyes, sitting by the fire, listening to bkdkdkdd".


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    I wonder what "season" people will associate this with. I see threads pop up about how X is a "fall album" or X is a "spring album".
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    Oh for the love of God...

    The actual music, flow, and mixing/production value are what will make it good or not.
    Disagree on Can't Stop. Lyrics drive the song. I otherwise agree.

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    I wonder what "season" people will associate this with. I see threads pop up about how X is a "fall album" or X is a "spring album".
    I have the feeling that I'm not going to associate this album with any season in particular.
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    This is silly. Crap songs with solos are still crap. Good songs without solos are still good.

    crap songs with good solos are turned into passable songs. take time bomb for example. the base song is pretty crappy, but tim has a pretty solid solo. tim's solo doesn't make it a great or even good song, but it takes it up to at least ok because there is some redeeming quality to it. the most recent incarnation of cant stop is worlds better than the original versions because of the jam that becomes the main part of the song and takes away the focus from the lyrics.
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    ok serious answer:

    It’s going to all depend on those unheard songs. If bkdkdkdd is Be Yourself, That Girl is You is as bad as the guy on TDC alluded to, and Come Tomorrow is a cheesy SJW “save the world” type song in the same vein as Gaucho, then.... ehh.
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    ok serious answer:

    It’s going to all depend on those unheard songs. If bkdkdkdd is Be Yourself, That Girl is You is as bad as the guy on TDC alluded to, and Come Tomorrow is a cheesy SJW “save the world” type song in the same vein as Gaucho, then.... ehh.
    Isn't Cry Freedom just an early 90s SJW song?
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    Can't wait for the future "Our first dance was to bkdkdkdd". Or "listen here sonny, you were conceived to bkdkdkdd". Or even better "I fell in love with her as I looked into her eyes, sitting by the fire, listening to bkdkdkdd".
    Best post I've seen in a while
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    Solos don't determine a songs worth, I think Everyday is far better than AFTW and Big Whiskey, and I just care about there being good songs produced / mixed reasonably well
    WHAT

    NO. No.
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