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Old 04-21-2019, 08:22 PM   #14461
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Really enjoyed the episode. I dont think Theon deserves this level of redemption, but it's no major gripe. I think we see quite a few deaths next week, I just wonder how many turn to wights.
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    Dany is definitely heading towards mad queen territory. Wont end well for her
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    Old 04-21-2019, 08:27 PM   #14463
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    I didn’t expect non-stop action but so far we’ve gotten two hours of setup that probably could’ve been combined into a single 90ish minute episode last week. I’ve liked them fine but definitely not going crazy over them.
    I don't consider everything we've seen as simply being setup at this point. Character development/payoffs are still worthwhile pursuits even this late in the game.

    And I mean, they've only dedicated an additional 20 minutes to the 90 you referenced. I personally would've been fine with adding the first 20 minutes of this week to last week's episode and then having the early portions of the battle bleed into the end of this week, but what it really boils down to is a lot of people being overly defensive about time running out without considering how rushed a lot of the storyline will feel if you don't cover some of this ground now.
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    "That isn't who she is anymore" was always an incredibly stupid reason for Arya and Gendry not to be together at all (the most likely simply that one or both of them wouldn't survive) but damn I never expected them to actually bone before the war even started
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    Old 04-21-2019, 08:35 PM   #14465
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    I don't mind a "calm before the storm" episode and I thought this show earned just about all of the good moments in this episode.

    Pretty clear Dany and Jon survive so they can fight about line of succession.
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    yep. thats gonna be the central plot after the war
    I really like the potential impact Jon's revelation will have on the impending battle. If he finds himself in any sort of trouble, Dany won't be as overzealous to save him as she otherwise would've been.

    And keeping in character, it's yet another example of Jon doing the honorable thing to his potential detriment.
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    I want to say no, we don't just move on...but if we dont, that leaves 2 episodes to complete the throne story, which would seem rushed. I just don't see how next week's episode doesnt stretch into week 4 as well

    I don't know, they did say how the very large majority of next week's episode is actual ongoing battle (told of course thru multiple smaller character-based moments scattered along, not 80 minutes of wide army shots), and obviously it's not like there's any more set up to be done. It's pretty much starting minute one next week.
    I mean, I don't really have any expectation that the Night King and whole WW storyline is totally finished next week, but I think that'll be all for action at Winterfell.


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    Pretty clear Dany and Jon survive so they can fight about line of succession.

    is it me or was there SOME kind of better way for Jon to deliver that news? It didn't exactly seem to be helping himself very much there. plus, if you're going to wait so long to tell her, don't then do so when it's likely the battle can start any minute. At that point, don't say anything at all
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    Old 04-21-2019, 09:05 PM   #14467
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    The Arya/Gendry thing feels forced.

    Loved everything else about the episode.
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    Old 04-21-2019, 09:20 PM   #14468
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    Fantastic episode.

    As it was wrapping, I said to Allison that the net nerds were gonna be pissed because "nothing happened." Glad to see the positive reactions among my corner of the net nerds in here.
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    Old 04-21-2019, 09:25 PM   #14469
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    The Arya/Gendry thing feels forced.

    Loved everything else about the episode.



    Eh... the notion that she would want to experience sex before she dies makes sense. And he's a special person to her. Some of the names on her list are on there solely because of what they did to him.

    I think it just feels weird because we still see her as a kid, separate from the rest of the sex fiends on the show.
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    Old 04-21-2019, 09:37 PM   #14470
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    Pretty mediocre episode tbh
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    I don't know, they did say how the very large majority of next week's episode is actual ongoing battle (told of course thru multiple smaller character-based moments scattered along, not 80 minutes of wide army shots), and obviously it's not like there's any more set up to be done. It's pretty much starting minute one next week.
    I think they could easily slide in half an episode of battle prep still.
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    Re: A Game of Thrones (HBO Series)

    If you're itching for the war to start, I urge you to think back to The Matrix trilogy when the sentinels break through into Zion. Remember how awful that scene got after they blasted the millionth sentinel? Do you really want ten hours of them killing mindless wights?


    This ep is what this show is all about.
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    Old 04-21-2019, 09:53 PM   #14474
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    The Arya/Gendry thing feels forced.

    Loved everything else about the episode.



    not really. looking at the timeline of the character she was I guess well into puberty when they first met and for awhile were thrust into a position of being dependent on one another. Part of the whole point of why she ditched the Faceless Men was how much humanity and compassion she still had within her and wasn't willing to give up the connection she had with her family. cut to Winterfell now and she'd taken for granted she was never even going to see Gendry again. She's back on her home turf with plenty badass skills under her belt, he was clearly still attracted to her when they met back up. Thinking you're likely to die in less than 24 hours it actually seems very plausible.
    I just always thought it was silly those who argued against them having a life together after the war should they both survive just because she'd now become the Terminator or something, it's like have you actually paid attention to her arc
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    I don't think Tormund should get together with Brienne because she's clearly never really even been comfortable with his attention, though which isn't to say I think her and Jaime or "soulmates" or something. I actually feel like it'd be a little cliche for Brienne and Jaime to be in a romantic relationship, they have a genuine deep love for each other that's way more than that (and since there's no way in hell Jaime doesn't at least die anyway)
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    Old 04-21-2019, 10:04 PM   #14476
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    Brienne is the sister Jaime never had.


    I think Brienne's discomfort with Tormund's affections is more about men never having shown much interest in her because she's basically a man. The notion that Tormund sees her for the woman she is and digs it just isn't computing.
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    Old 04-21-2019, 10:11 PM   #14477
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    The Arya/Gendry thing feels forced.

    Loved everything else about the episode.
    Yeah I agree.
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    I don't know why everyone is freaked out about Bran Stark. He's got the history of the entire world in a DVR in his head, of course he has a weird look.

    He has all this knowledge and he hasn't butted in on anything they've done. The only thing he's done is go to that tree. I don't know if that means they are going to win or not but seems like a pretty big clue. It's odd that he has given so little advice.
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    What do you mean "everyone is freaked out" by him? Do you mean us, or the characters?
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    It does worry me a little here they're not actually going to do the Bran's "hey FYI everybody, Jaime's not a totally bad guy, he saved a million lives the day that he killed the man that, may I remind you, you did all literally call 'the Mad King'"

    I mean this kind of seemed like the natural episode in which for that to happen.




    I did also already see over on reddit someone remarked that it appears Bran and Tyrion had a lengthy off screen conversation, after which Tyrion was acting pretty good about how not necessarily all of them would die and darkness covers the whole world...
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    Old 04-21-2019, 10:29 PM   #14481
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    I don't think it's odd that he's given so little advice. He's not Little Finger. As you said, he has all the knowledge. If you can see the ball coming from a mile away, you don't have to take a huge swing.
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    It does worry me a little here they're not actually going to do the Bran's "hey FYI everybody, Jaime's not a totally bad guy, he saved a million lives the day that he killed the man that, may I remind you, you did all literally call 'the Mad King'"

    I mean this kind of seemed like the natural episode in which for that to happen.



    I think it was better the way it happened. These people can understand someone vouching for a guy more than they can some freak in a wheel chair telling them he saw the past and this dude is cool. No one really knows what to do with what Bran is telling them yet, and as we just touched on, he's not telling them much anyway.
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    Old 04-21-2019, 10:34 PM   #14483
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    Bran is going to play a massive role in the war, methinks, and it's not going to be just flat out telling people shit he's seen.
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    Bran is going to play a massive role in the war, methinks, and it's not going to be just flat out telling people shit he's seen.

    well no of course I realize even the whole visual thing, but only HE can see that. I'm holding out hope they'll dramatize this in SOME way.


    but I NEVER thought Bran was going to be holding some kind of a grudge against him, so I'm happy they got that out of the way.
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    well no of course I realize even the whole visual thing, but only HE can see that. I'm holding out hope they'll dramatize this in SOME way.
    Dany is the only one we need that payoff with at this point, but at this point it's starting to not matter. And she already doesn't believe what Bran has to say, so Bran telling her Jaime killing her father was just isn't going to land anyway.

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    Yea, I think I said almost word for word what Bran told Jaime in here a few days ago. The payoff for that was always going to just be the shame Jaime felt.
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    Old 04-22-2019, 01:00 AM   #14486
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    I really like the potential impact Jon's revelation will have on the impending battle. If he finds himself in any sort of trouble, Dany won't be as overzealous to save him as she otherwise would've been.

    And keeping in character, it's yet another example of Jon doing the honorable thing to his potential detriment.
    at least in this scenario, other people know. Unlike when Ned tells Cersei in private that he knows about her kids. Might as well just kill himself there on the spot
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    Bran is definitely being underutilized. Tyrion is literally the only person that has said "hey, tell me about it". I'm assuming he's going to learn of Jon's heritage during that conversation.

    I do find the "NK wants Bran" plot point interesting. I guess it would make sense in some way that its not enough to kill all the humans, but to kill the memory of them as well...but that said, nobody knew about the 3 eyed raven before. He didn't do anything. So I'm still not really sure what his impact is
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    Old 04-22-2019, 04:19 AM   #14489
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    definitely looking forward to the bran/night king showdown
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    Old 04-22-2019, 04:49 AM   #14490
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    I was kind of surprised there wasn't one scene in KL with Cersei. We know E3 will be mostly/all in Winterfell, are they really not going to show anything ging on down there for 1/3 of the season?

    I don't feel the battle will be the entirety of the episode, though. I could see it starting in KL for a few minutes before the battle starts.
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