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Old 05-05-2021, 01:47 PM   #31
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Re: I like Listener Supported More than Red Rocks

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I think I am in agreement with your order I really only listen to RR95 and LC regularly anymore though.
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    Re: I like Listener Supported More than Red Rocks

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    Respectfully, no way Folsom is better than Chicago.
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    Re: I like Listener Supported More than Red Rocks

    After hearing how much of Boyd was overdubbed in the studio LiC lost it's luster for me.
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    Old 05-05-2021, 02:05 PM   #34
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    Re: I like Listener Supported More than Red Rocks

    I think critically, from outside impartial observers, the band would be more remembered for the Central Park Concert as a live release than either RR95 or Listener Supported.
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    Old 05-05-2021, 06:44 PM   #35
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    Re: I like Listener Supported More than Red Rocks

    I like a variety of things over other things on any given day.
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    Old 05-05-2021, 06:53 PM   #36
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    Re: I like Listener Supported More than Red Rocks

    I really only listen to the Last Stop from LiC since it's the best crescendo hit recorded of that song. Pretty meh on the rest of it. Would rather listen to any of the other 98 releases.
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    Old 05-05-2021, 09:06 PM   #37
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    Re: I like Listener Supported More than Red Rocks

    The best this band has sound other than maybe 2004

    Dave’s Martin guitar shines, btcs was still young and songs like ddtw were more relaxed. Definitely a jazzy type.

    Best memories watching this on vhs growing up too at the time and solidified my fanhood along.

    Would probably agree its the best release
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    Old 05-05-2021, 09:20 PM   #38
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    Re: I like Listener Supported More than Red Rocks

    RR 95 all the way
    LS is solid
    RR 05 get the fuck out

    RR 95 was mixed on the fly too vs the others that were mixed in post
    Huge difference in talent needed for that

    LS does have some better “jams” but RR is solid all the way through

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    Old 05-05-2021, 11:06 PM   #39
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    Re: I like Listener Supported More than Red Rocks

    I wish we would have gotten more releases with more unique names. Folsom was going to be called Open Up The Curtains for example. Too bad they stopped trying to name shows for release. Listener Supported is just a cool name for that show.
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    Old 05-05-2021, 11:45 PM   #40
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    Re: I like Listener Supported More than Red Rocks

    That wasn't RR, that was their scrapped proposed second release, Live at The Flood Zone, which later became a DMBLive release http://www.dmbalmanac.com/TourShowSe...=51&where=1993

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    It also loses point for Spotlight being talked about as a pre-gap. Even if it was an unfounded rumor, that loses points. Had it made it into the pre-gap it would be below Weekend On The Rocks and Folsom Field.
    Also, why the hate? In the spotlight, life is so peachy!
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    Old 05-06-2021, 08:09 AM   #41
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    Re: I like Listener Supported More than Red Rocks

    I agree totally. LS is the best sounding mix to me. I've come to believe that 1999 was the true peak for the band in terms of sound and "style" of play, and this show captures it perfectly. Rapunzel, #41, and Two Step from this show are some of my favorite versions ever; Leroi on #41 always brings a smile to my face and makes me feel like he's still here with us.
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    Re: I like Listener Supported More than Red Rocks

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    After hearing how much of Boyd was overdubbed in the studio LiC lost it's luster for me.
    why? who gives a shit? you weren't there. it's a collection of noises thrown together and then broken up into song-length segments. I don't care where the noises were made, I care how they sound, and LiC sounds great.
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    Re: I like Listener Supported More than Red Rocks

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    After hearing how much of Boyd was overdubbed in the studio LiC lost it's luster for me.
    This is actually a really good point that makes me reconsider my ranking...
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    Re: I like Listener Supported More than Red Rocks

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    why? who gives a shit? you weren't there. it's a collection of noises thrown together and then broken up into song-length segments. I don't care where the noises were made, I care how they sound, and LiC sounds great.
    LOL

    No, I wasn't there. Doesn't matter. It's not a true representation of the show. If I wanted perfect performances I would listen to the albums.

    Good for you dude, glad you like it
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    Re: I like Listener Supported More than Red Rocks

    I mean, fair enough, but if you care about "true representations of the show," don't listen to any live releases. tapes only for you.
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    Re: I like Listener Supported More than Red Rocks

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    Re: I like Listener Supported More than Red Rocks

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    I mean, fair enough, but if you care about "true representations of the show," don't listen to any live releases. tapes only for you.
    Yeah that's primarily what I listen to when possible. A lot of excellent tapes out there. But your point is fair, I know edits/overdubs are made on all live releases. LiC was just more egregious.
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    LOL

    No, I wasn't there. Doesn't matter. It's not a true representation of the show. If I wanted perfect performances I would listen to the albums.

    Good for you dude, glad you like it
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    I mean, fair enough, but if you care about "true representations of the show," don't listen to any live releases. tapes only for you.
    Yeah, I'm pretty sure that the majority of live releases have a fair amount of overdubs to make them sound like a band is the greatest live band ever that never make any mistakes.
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    That wasn't RR, that was their scrapped proposed second release, Live at The Flood Zone, which later became a DMBLive release http://www.dmbalmanac.com/TourShowSe...=51&where=1993



    Also, why the hate? In the spotlight, life is so peachy!
    Spotlight's a turd. I'm glad Dave realized it and put the kibosh on it. Help Myself fills the same void and is infinitely better.

    Interesting, though. I didn't realize the '93 show was being considered. Makes sense, though.
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    Re: I like Listener Supported More than Red Rocks

    To me, Listener Supported and Central Park are the band's best releases.

    Listener Supported was, like some here, the show that made my fandom explode. Also cool that I live 30 min from this arena and the NJ Devils played there at the time and it was right in the middle of their 3 cup dynasty which made it so much cooler that my favorite band was playing there. You can see some of the Devils banners a few times during the show.
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    Old 05-07-2021, 10:40 AM   #51
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    The best this band has sound other than maybe 2004

    Dave’s Martin guitar shines, btcs was still young and songs like ddtw were more relaxed. Definitely a jazzy type.

    Best memories watching this on vhs growing up too at the time and solidified my fanhood along.

    Would probably agree its the best release
    Good point about the Martin Guitar. I am a Taylor fanboy... but Martin is similar. Not really a fan of the Rockbridge sound.
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    Good point about the Martin Guitar. I am a Taylor fanboy... but Martin is similar. Not really a fan of the Rockbridge sound.
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