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Old 05-28-2019, 01:34 PM   #150121
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I don't think Trump hates vets. I think he loves vets, so they can risk their lives so Trump can live his life without any consequences.
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    Were he not a President with an R next to his name, you would despise him. You are accepting of his shitiness because if your chosen party gives up on him an impending civil war within the party will erupt and the Republican Party will cease to exist. If or when he is held accountable your party will turn on him with lightning speed. In the meantime you are providing us a wealth of clownish material.
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    Old 05-28-2019, 01:41 PM   #150123
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    Tweet series from Justin Amash. Tweet #1 says this: "Attorney General Barr has deliberately misrepresented key aspects of Mueller’s report and decisions in the investigation, which has helped further the president’s false narrative about the investigation." Amash then goes on to explain that conclusion in detail.

    https://twitter.com/justinamash/stat...10107461689345
    Kind of weird that no Democrat could explain what Barr did in such a simple way. There are going to be Republicans like Shotty and JMC and Space raven (on the small chance he is actually a Republican and not a Russian troll) who believe in party over country, but it's refreshing there is at least one elected Republican who puts his country first.
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    Were he not a President with an R next to his name, you would despise him. You are accepting of his shitiness because if your chosen party gives up on him an impending civil war within the party will erupt and the Republican Party will cease to exist. If or when he is held accountable your party will turn on him with lightning speed. In the meantime you are providing us a wealth of clownish material.
    Its not like you to be so over the top dramatic
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    Nobody engages in better bad faith debate on these boards than Shotty, yet you all constantly engage him while he stokes into a sock in ecstasy.
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    Old 05-28-2019, 01:50 PM   #150126
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    ^

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    The lack of self-awareness is always hilarious.
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    if anyone thought Shotty read the opinion and not just the headline. You hit the nail on the head with the second bolded.
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    Were he not a President with an R next to his name, you would despise him. You are accepting of his shitiness because if your chosen party gives up on him an impending civil war within the party will erupt and the Republican Party will cease to exist. If or when he is held accountable your party will turn on him with lightning speed. In the meantime you are providing us a wealth of clownish material.
    I have to think "I can't believe you're this dumb" is the reaction he wants.
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    Old 05-28-2019, 01:52 PM   #150127
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    I don't think Trump hates vets. I think he loves vets, so they can risk their lives so Trump can live his life without any consequences.
    Do you hate W or Trump more? Tie??
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    Old 05-28-2019, 02:04 PM   #150128
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    Do you hate W or Trump more? Tie??
    Easy question / answer - Trump.

    Dubya was a horrible President obviously, but was a grown up.
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    Nobody engages in better bad faith debate on these boards than Shotty, yet you all constantly engage him while he stokes into a sock in ecstasy.
    If he gets off on looking like a dumbass, I'm not going to stop him from having his fun.

    But his bullshit should get push back. Believe it or not, there are other people on this board who lurk and do read this thread. Shotty shouldn't get free reign to spew bullshit that might accidentally fall on to less-informed eyes and cause them to develop a terrible opinion like his
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    Old 05-28-2019, 02:11 PM   #150130
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    I thought we were all here to stoke into our socks together.
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    Old 05-28-2019, 02:24 PM   #150131
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    Easy question / answer - Trump.

    Dubya was a horrible President obviously, but was a grown up.
    Really? Surprised to be honest
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    Old 05-28-2019, 02:30 PM   #150132
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    Really? Surprised to be honest
    Both had horrible foreign policies in their own ways. My favorite thing about Dubya (besides the first pitch of the Yankee game after 9/11 and the ducking of the thrown shoes) was his desire to privatize social security.
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    Old 05-28-2019, 02:31 PM   #150133
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    So how exactly would this be constitutional when it completely negates the idea of states rights?

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    Old 05-28-2019, 02:32 PM   #150134
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    Both had horrible foreign policies in their own ways. My favorite thing about Dubya (besides the first pitch of the Yankee game after 9/11 and the ducking of the thrown shoes) was his desire to privatize social security.
    How is Trumps similar?
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    My quickdraw answer is Trump, just because he's by an infinite amount the worst possible type of human being to exist, let alone to run the country, but I mean...as much as I hate the guy, he hasn't done anything close to as bad as getting us into a false war. (yet, seems like he's trying to outdo W now though...)
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    Do you hate W or Trump more? Tie??
    This is like a carter vs obama choice for conservatives!
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    Old 05-28-2019, 02:33 PM   #150137
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    So how exactly would this be constitutional when it completely negates the idea of states rights?



    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...es/3701692002/
    I was under the impression the Constitution was just a set of loosely held guidelines now and not law...
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    So how exactly would this be constitutional when it completely negates the idea of states rights?



    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...es/3701692002/
    I don't know about Warren and Hillibrand's plan but I agree with Harris' which would work similarly to the VRA.

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    It’s similar to a key provision of the landmark 1965 Voting Rights Act, which required states that had implemented discriminatory voting practices in the past to get Justice Department clearance to enforce additional laws. As a result of this requirement, the department blocked 86 election-related updates that could have disenfranchised people of color between 1998 and 2013, according to Harris’s campaign.
    https://www.vox.com/2019/5/28/186425...ing-rights-act
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    So how exactly would this be constitutional when it completely negates the idea of states rights?



    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...es/3701692002/
    The authoritarian tendencies are strong with all the Dems
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    The authoritarian tendencies are strong with all the Dems
    It's authoritarian to force people to have choices?
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    How is Trumps similar?
    Similar to what and to whom?
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    They way I've seen it described today is how states had to ask permission from the DOJ similar to how it worked under the VRA.



    https://www.vox.com/2019/5/28/186425...ing-rights-act
    The way it is supposed to work is that if a state passes a law and people are not happy with it they can work their way up from the various district courts even up to the Supreme Court (if necessary) to determine if a law is constitutional. Least that is how I was taught that our democracy works anyhow.
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    It's authoritarian to force people to have choices?
    Maybe people who vote for anti abortion policies want anti abortion policies.
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    Similar to what and to whom?
    Foreign policy wise to Bush.
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    I was under the impression the Constitution was just a set of loosely held guidelines now and not law...
    Sadly this is now how it works and even more pathetically is that the definition of whether something is constitutional is often at the whim of a single unelected judge, a 3 judge panel in a distract court (9th leaning left and 5th leaning right so both are partisan as all hell) or some 5-4 SCOTUS decision that gives ALL the power to that one swing justice.

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    It's authoritarian to force people to have choices?
    How much choice to men get as to whether they want a baby or not if they get some girl pregnant? Other countries give a potential father the option for a so called financial abortion if they do not want a child but the mother is bound and determined to pop out a kid neither can afford. Sort of a double standard IMO because 1 side of the equation has absolutely no say in whether the kid is born but is tagged with child support for up to 18 years.
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    Maybe people who vote for anti abortion policies want anti abortion policies.
    Oh, well, fuck them.

    If they don't want an abortion, they're welcome not to get one.
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    It's authoritarian to force people to have choices?
    Shall I mention the lefts infatuation with gun control in terms of limiting choices? Yes, I understand the common sense restrictions but others are simply pointless and do absolutely nothing to make the nation safer.
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    How much choice to men get as to whether they want a baby or not if they get some girl pregnant?
    None at all.
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    Oh, well, fuck them.

    If they don't want an abortion, they're welcome not to get one.
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    Oh, well, fuck them.

    If they don't want an abortion, they're welcome not to get one.
    That’s not how this works.
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