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Old 06-25-2020, 12:05 PM   #31
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Re: Seven appreciation thread

I enjoy it. Got overplayed for sure, but whatever.
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    Re: Seven appreciation thread

    the music/time signature is what makes this song so good and fun. daves vocals are the sprinkles on top of the sundae.
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    Old 06-25-2020, 01:05 PM   #33
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    Listen to the D&T show from Oakland, CA. Seven is yelled out to be played and Dave says "f*ck Seven, no one wants to hear that sh*t!"
    About what time was this? Amazing
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    Old 06-25-2020, 03:36 PM   #34
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    I don’t know how to say this without coming across as a D bag, but I honestly believe that people who grew up playing music and still play an instrument have greater respect for complex songs, and as a result, might be more open to enjoying a song because of it.

    I think you’ve got two crowds - the crowd that doesn’t know the difference between a 4/4 and a 7/8, and the crowd that understands measures, time sigs, general music theory/structure etc.

    The two groups might judge music differently because of their understanding of music.

    As an example, Rush is a band that gets crapped on by the general pop pretty often, but as someone who has played drums for 25 years, I consider Rush one of the most interesting bands to listen to. I don’t know if the songs are good or not, I just really like them because it’s fun to follow along and take in what they are doing.

    Maybe that’s how I view Seven, I guess.
    For the record, I've played guitar for over 20 years and have (what I would like to think) a very solid understanding of music theory.

    It's still a bad song. Complexity does not inherently make it a good song. Funky time signatures don't inherently make it a good song. I can appreciate the musicianship displayed and still think it makes a hodgepodge of nonsense that doesn't equate to a good song.
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    Old 06-25-2020, 05:50 PM   #35
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    Good song that got overplayed
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    Old 06-25-2020, 07:57 PM   #36
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    For the record, I've played guitar for over 20 years and have (what I would like to think) a very solid understanding of music theory.

    It's still a bad song. Complexity does not inherently make it a good song. Funky time signatures don't inherently make it a good song. I can appreciate the musicianship displayed and still think it makes a hodgepodge of nonsense that doesn't equate to a good song.
    I donít think I made the claim that complex = good. I believe I said complex = interesting, and maybe thatís why I listen to certain songs that arenít necessarily good but I enjoy them because they offer something else.

    For the record, I think drummers (and bassists) are more interested by funky time signatures than guitarists.

    When I play You Never Know on guitar, I could give a F about the time sig - it isnít interesting. But on the drums, itís a blast. Just my 2 cents
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    Old 06-26-2020, 07:04 PM   #37
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    Seven is great. Never understood the hate for Big Whiskey. It was a massive improvement from Everyday and Stand Up.
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    Old 06-26-2020, 07:30 PM   #38
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    About what time was this? Amazing
    I tried to pull up the show audio and find it but it's not on the app. I promise you it happened, I was "that guy" front row that yelled it.
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    Old 06-26-2020, 08:37 PM   #39
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    Awesome tune with a lot of live energy. It's been great to hear it evolve.
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    Old 06-28-2020, 11:54 AM   #40
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    Re: Seven appreciation thread

    I really like the subtlety of the keyboard/piano on the studio version. I think it's Rob cavallo, does anyone know for sure? Also, rois playing is funky asf, and Carter is super impressive as per usual
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    Old 06-28-2020, 12:25 PM   #41
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    I really like the subtlety of the keyboard/piano on the studio version. I think it's Rob cavallo, does anyone know for sure? Also, rois playing is funky asf, and Carter is super impressive as per usual
    According to the Wikipedia credits, there were at least 3 different keys/piano players-

    Rob Cavallo - occasional organ and piano
    Roger Joseph Manning Jr. - keyboards
    Jamie Muhoberac - keyboards, organ

    Doesn't specify who plays on what though.
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    Old 06-28-2020, 01:54 PM   #42
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    Seven is great. Never understood the hate for Big Whiskey. It was a massive improvement from Everyday and Stand Up.
    Agree to an extent. Definitely a step up from the previous two albums and I frequently listen to it. However, I can see the hate for it as SMLAM/FTWII/You & Me are some of the more rough songs in the catalogue. Most wonít agree fully but I think we might agree that those three get overplayed and that leads to exhaustion for fans, at least on this board.

    Ironically those three are my most heard songs. So maybe Iím biased and angry. Ha.
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    Old 06-30-2020, 10:31 PM   #43
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    Awesome tune with a lot of live energy. It's been great to hear it evolve.
    To me every single version sounds the same. Other than adding a few bars to the Tim solo, I wouldnít be able to tell a 2009 version from a 2019 version.
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    Old 06-30-2020, 10:42 PM   #44
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    Seven is great. Never understood the hate for Big Whiskey. It was a massive improvement from Everyday and Stand Up.
    I definitely like Everyday more
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    Old 06-30-2020, 11:05 PM   #45
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    Re: Seven appreciation thread

    To each their own but I’d be fine if I never hear Seven again.
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    Old 07-01-2020, 11:34 PM   #46
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    To each their own but Iíd be fine if I never hear Seven again.
    It's going to be in your top 5 soon.
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    Old 07-02-2020, 09:55 AM   #47
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    It's going to be in your top 5 soon.
    Umm. No. It won't.
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    Old 07-03-2020, 12:52 AM   #48
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    To each their own but Iíd be fine if I never hear Seven again.
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    Umm. No. It won't.
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    Old 07-03-2020, 11:11 PM   #49
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    What are you talking about?
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    Old 07-03-2020, 11:12 PM   #50
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    I listened to the studio version today. I really like it a lot.
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    I listened to the studio version today. I really like it a lot.
    the studio version is the best Seven imo.
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    I listened to the studio version today. I really like it a lot.
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    the studio version is the best Seven imo.
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    Seven is like Bayou in the sense the lyrics get mad annoying. The song would benefit by being a condensed 2 minute instrumental live
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