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Old 05-03-2020, 05:35 PM   #1
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DMB Madness Crowd-Sourced Bracket

How about a 68-song bracket of the top user-submitted DMB songs for you to make your picks during quarantine?

First off, I want to give a huge thank you to the 56 people who participated by submitting their Top 50 songs in order. Original thread here.

The Process
Using each person's individual Top 50 rankings, I granted the top song 50 points, second song 49 points, and so on from there down to the 50th song earning 1 point. Aggregating the totals, I came up with the OVERALL song rankings. In the event of a tie (and there was one) I gave the song omitted from less submissions the higher seed. Using those rankings and a snaking placement, I assigned each song a seed 1-16 within the four regions named after some iconic venues. I then took songs ranked 61-64 (the 16 seeds) and matched them with songs 65-68 (the 17 seeds) to create the First Four play-in round. For example, 61st-ranked #40 was matched against 68th-ranked Everyday. The winner will move into the bracket to play the #1 seed from their assigned region. Since #40/Everyday is assigned to the Red Rocks Region, this winning pick will slide in as #16 there and play Pig in the first round. The first four songs to miss the bracket were So Much To Say, Hello Again, So Damn Lucky and Lying in the Hands of God.

Instructions
Start at the top with the First Four play-in round and decide the winners of those four match-ups. The winners move into the main bracket within their associated region to play the #1 seed from that region. Make your picks from there to complete the bracket and decide your overall winner.

Bracket Files: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1e6...sPP89ZAMYAoxDQ
There's 2 versions and you can choose what you prefer...
1) .PDF file for easy printing and to hand-write your picks.
2) Original Excel file. The empty boxes each have a drop-down with a formula to show the two song choices. Starting with the empty #16 seeds, select your pick, then the remaining empty boxes will pre-populate your available choices as you move through the bracket. No need to type any song names. It is formatted to print full page when you're done.

I have also provided copies with seeds removed to give you a choice when filling out your bracket in case the seed numbers sway your decisions.

The Rankings
All in all, 186 songs received votes. Here are the Top 100 songs:

Total Score - Song Name
2055 The Stone
1879 #41
1849 Two Step
1827 Pig
1754 The Dreaming Tree
1697 Warehouse
1667 Crush
1659 Bartender
1658 The Best of What's Around
1599 Lie In Our Graves
1581 Grey Street
1574 Seek Up
1490 Ants Marching
1452 Dancing Nancies
1345 Typical Situation
1333 You Never Know
1269 Tripping Billies
1260 Don't Drink The Water
1187 The Last Stop
1144 JTR
1133 Say Goodbye
1049 Granny
1040 One Sweet World
958 Grace Is Gone
896 Recently
886 Big Eyed Fish
879 Spoon
860 Raven
816 Rapunzel
792 Shotgun
775 Minarets
734 So Right
701 Captain
684 Cry Freedom
667 Crash Into Me
656 Halloween
647 Drive In, Drive Out
646 The Song That Jane Likes
637 Rhyme & Reason
630 Lover Lay Down
609 Busted Stuff
592 I'll Back You Up (wins tie-breaker, omitted from 26 submissions)
592 Idea Of You (omitted from 33 submissions)
563 What You Are
559 Too Much
558 Sweet Up And Down
537 Sugar Will
508 Stay (Wasting Time)
505 Fool To Think
486 What Would You Say
482 Pay For What You Get
476 Proudest Monkey
462 Stay Or Leave
443 You Might Die Trying
442 Break Free
418 #34
407 American Baby Intro
406 All Along The Watchtower
390 Jimi Thing
388 Loving Wings
-----BEGIN PLAY-IN ROUND-----
381 #40
373 Blue Water
370 The Space Between
364 Crazy Easy
362 Snow Outside
352 Joyride
346 Good Good Time
337 Everyday
-----CUTOFF-----
331 So Much To Say
307 Hello Again
305 So Damn Lucky
290 Lying In The Hands of God
283 Kit Kat Jam
244 Virginia In The Rain
242 The Maker
241 Why I Am
232 Mercy
224 Drunken Soldier
223 Let You Down
220 Steady As We Go
215 #36
215 Beach Ball
213 When The World Ends
212 #27
210 Help Myself
207 Where Are You Going
203 Dodo
200 Squirm
195 Old Dirt Hill (Bring That Beat Back)
191 Oh
190 Christmas Song
187 Digging A Ditch
181 Kill The King
178 Save Me
162 Gravedigger
162 Seven
152 Little Thing
151 Black and Blue Bird
142 Samurai Cop (Oh Joy Begin)
139 Stolen Away On 55th & 3rd

Let's see what you got. All I can say is GOOD LUCK! This is tough. Most of all, ENJOY! Comment with some of the picks which have you scratching your head the most. Would love to hear some 'upset' picks you've made as well! Thank you all
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  • Old 05-03-2020, 05:36 PM   #2
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    Re: DMB Madness Crowd-Sourced Bracket

    Some interesting takeaways...

    Top Ranked Song from each Album/Category:
    Album/Category - Rank - Song Name
    Under the Table and Dreaming - #6 - Warehouse
    Crash - #2 - #41
    Before These Crowded Streets - #1 - The Stone
    Everyday - #32 - So Right
    Busted Stuff - #8 - Bartender
    Stand Up - #54 You Might Die Trying
    Big Whiskey & the GrooGrux King - #72 - Lying in the Hands of God
    Away from the World - #65 - Snow Outside
    Come Tomorrow - #42 - Idea of You
    Remember Two Things - #12 - Seek Up
    Some Devil - #53 - Stay Or Leave
    Cover Songs - #58 - All Along the Watchtower
    Defunct - #81 - #36
    Misc. Release - #22 - Granny
    Segues - #133 - Anyone Seen The Bridge
    Unreleased - #20 - JTR

    Average Song Rank by Album/Category (of songs receiving votes)
    Average Rank - Album/Category
    29.64 - Before These Crowded Streets
    33.67 - Crash
    37.57 - Remember Two Things
    39.25 - Under the Table and Dreaming
    39.82 - Busted Stuff
    88.40 - Everyday
    104.18 - Some Devil
    106.67 - Stand Up
    107.46 - Misc. Release
    113.60 - Unreleased
    114.20 - Away from the World
    119.31 - Big Whiskey & the GrooGrux King
    123.77 - Come Tomorrow
    136.53 - Cover Songs
    143.50 - Defunct
    149.50 - Segues

    Songs omitted from the least amount of submissions:
    Omissions - Song Name
    5 The Stone
    6 #41
    6 Pig
    6 Warehouse
    7 Two Step
    7 The Best of What's Around
    8 The Dreaming Tree
    8 Grey Street
    8 Ants Marching
    10 Bartender
    10 Lie In Our Graves
    10 Seek Up
    10 Granny
    11 Crush
    12 Dancing Nancies
    14 Don't Drink The Water
    15 Tripping Billies
    16 Typical Situation
    16 You Never Know
    16 JTR
    16 Say Goodbye
    16 One Sweet World
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    Old 05-03-2020, 06:07 PM   #3
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    Just wanted to say thanks for doing this. This stuff really helps me, and I'm sure a lot of others, kill time. I already completed the first round (well, 90% of it, Crush v. Watchtower is really killing me.)
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    Old 05-03-2020, 06:24 PM   #4
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    Cool stuff.

    Can we set up a bracket with voting and play it out as a group?
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    Old 05-03-2020, 06:37 PM   #5
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    Just wanted to say thanks for doing this. This stuff really helps me, and I'm sure a lot of others, kill time. I already completed the first round (well, 90% of it, Crush v. Watchtower is really killing me.)
    You're so welcome! This was exactly the purpose - to be a fun way to pass the time during quarantine. If you're also a Mumford & Sons fan, I made a bracket for them as well: https://www.reddit.com/r/mumfordands...dness_bracket/

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    Cool stuff.

    Can we set up a bracket with voting and play it out as a group?
    Yes, of course! I say go for it. Sounds like another fun quarantine time-killer. What do you think is the best way to get this started?
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    Yes, of course! I say go for it. Sounds like another fun quarantine time-killer. What do you think is the best way to get this started?
    I think a Google Form might work out the best. We can make forms for each round of each region and see how it plays out. Just a thought, though.
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    You're so welcome! This was exactly the purpose - to be a fun way to pass the time during quarantine. If you're also a Mumford & Sons fan, I made a bracket for them as well: https://www.reddit.com/r/mumfordands...dness_bracket/



    Yes, of course! I say go for it. Sounds like another fun quarantine time-killer. What do you think is the best way to get this started?

    Idk. We've done it via threads before but that gets tedious and really gums up the boards since polls can only have ten options here. Surely there's a site out there where we can input the bracket then open up voting round by round?
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    Yes, guy. Awesome.
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    Idk. We've done it via threads before but that gets tedious and really gums up the boards since polls can only have ten options here. Surely there's a site out there where we can input the bracket then open up voting round by round?
    Someone could probably use Survey Monkey or set up a google form.
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    Someone could probably use Survey Monkey or set up a google form.
    Yeah, I can set a Google Form up for the first round.
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    Old 05-03-2020, 08:52 PM   #11
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    https://forms.gle/Y9ZLsopqjcidmMer5

    I dunno, just threw a Google Form together for the First Four really quickly. Let me know if you like it!
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    Why not just do it like an actual tournament bracket? Take the top 64 or 68, seed them, and make a bracket from a blank. Have people fill out the bracket, then do the voting for each round weekly. Award points each round just like any tournament bracket pool. Ya got all summer, no rush!
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    Re: DMB Madness Crowd-Sourced Bracket

    A little more insight into the data...

    Album Songs That Received Zero Votes:
    Song Name - Album
    Belly Full - Away From The World
    bkdkdkdd - Come Tomorrow
    Angel - Everyday
    Mother Father - Everyday
    An' Another Thing - Some Devil
    Grey Blue Eyes - Some Devil
    Everybody Wake Up (Our Finest Hour Arrives) - Stand Up
    Smooth Rider - Stand Up

    If I assign all of the above songs a rank of 187 (last place) and update the Average Song Rank by Album, here is what we get:

    Average Rank - Album/Category
    29.64 - Before These Crowded Streets
    33.67 - Crash
    37.57 - Remember Two Things
    39.25 - Under the Table and Dreaming
    39.82 - Busted Stuff
    104.83 - Everyday
    107.46 - Misc. Release
    113.60 - Unreleased

    116.92 - Some Devil
    118.14 - Stand Up
    119.31 - Big Whiskey & the GrooGrux King
    120.82 - Away from the World
    128.29 - Come Tomorrow
    136.53 - Cover Songs
    143.50 - Defunct
    149.50 - Segues
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    And more. Thought this was really interesting and quite telling...

    Total Score by Album/Category
    Total Score - Album/Category
    12666 - Before These Crowded Streets
    11316 - Crash
    10776 - Under the Table and Dreaming
    9264 - Busted Stuff
    6434 - Unreleased
    5713 - Remember Two Things
    2954 - Everyday
    2380 - Misc. Release
    2056 - Stand Up
    1865 - Some Devil
    1610 - Come Tomorrow
    1460 - Big Whiskey & the GrooGrux King
    1312 - Away from the World
    1233 - Cover Songs
    282 - Defunct
    75 - Segues
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    Lots of laundry today, so I ended up comparing my list with the main list, and the results were interesting.

    Top 10: 6/10
    Top 20: 15/20
    Top 30: 25/30
    Top 40: 35/40
    Top 50: 40/50

    Songs 1-10: 6/10
    Songs 11-20: 6/10
    Songs 21-30: 3/10
    Songs 31-40: 4/10
    Songs 41-50: 3/10
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    July 30, 1999 (Charlotte) is the only show where the top 5 shows were played.

    http://www.dmbalmanac.com/TourShowSe...=17&where=1999
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    Looking at the Google Form results so far, Space Between and Joyride are all tied up...
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    A little more insight into the data...

    Album Songs That Received Zero Votes:
    Song Name - Album
    Belly Full - Away From The World
    bkdkdkdd - Come Tomorrow
    Angel - Everyday
    Mother Father - Everyday
    An' Another Thing - Some Devil
    Grey Blue Eyes - Some Devil

    Everybody Wake Up (Our Finest Hour Arrives) - Stand Up
    Smooth Rider - Stand Up
    Meant to include these on my list dammit.
    Also OP, when you think is a good time to close the Google Form for the first four?
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    July 30, 1999 (Charlotte) is the only show where the top 5 shows were played.

    http://www.dmbalmanac.com/TourShowSe...=17&where=1999
    Great show!
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    A little more insight into the data...

    Album Songs That Received Zero Votes:
    Song Name - Album
    Belly Full - Away From The World
    bkdkdkdd - Come Tomorrow
    Angel - Everyday
    Mother Father - Everyday
    An' Another Thing - Some Devil
    Grey Blue Eyes - Some Devil
    Everybody Wake Up (Our Finest Hour Arrives) - Stand Up
    Smooth Rider - Stand Up

    I get your point but I did have Little Thing #15 overall and consider that and An Another Thing all kind of one in the same
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    Looking at the Google Form results so far, Space Between and Joyride are all tied up...
    I think just like NCAA we could have a deadline to fill out bracket(s) and then voting begins. A new round each day with a deadline for votes with official round results posted here after the deadline.

    If there is a way to show the current standings and be able to track/refresh after we respond to add a bit of suspense.

    I don't think we need to submit brackets to anyone or have a "Thread Pool" for anyone to score.
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    I get your point but I did have Little Thing #15 overall and consider that and An Another Thing all kind of one in the same
    I'd've combined those as well as combining #36 & Everyday. I get that there are differences, but they are really just variations and/or evolutions of each other, regardless of how any of us feel about them. Rain Down on Me (John The Revelator) is a different from JTR, but it also shares parts and evolved into JTR. For me, despite having JTR as my #1, it's the LWS version that is the best...the current live version is still great, but not as good (slight de-evolution). Both, however, are far superior to Rain Down on Me/John The Revelator, but they're all variations on the same harmonic/melodic theme. As opposed to how So Right is clearly based on the Monkey Man riff, but the switch from acoustic to electric and the syncopation are the first steps to making it a completely different song.

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    I think just like NCAA we could have a deadline to fill out bracket(s) and then voting begins. A new round each day with a deadline for votes with official round results posted here after the deadline.

    If there is a way to show the current standings and be able to track/refresh after we respond to add a bit of suspense.

    I don't think we need to submit brackets to anyone or have a "Thread Pool" for anyone to score.
    Yeah, now that I'm thinking about it, this would make the most sense. I can shut down the Google Form and we can think up a deadline.
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    July 30, 1999 (Charlotte) is the only show where the top 5 shows were played.

    http://www.dmbalmanac.com/TourShowSe...=17&where=1999
    My 3rd show, bought a front row ticket off eBay
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    Old 05-04-2020, 06:39 PM   #26
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    I get your point but I did have Little Thing #15 overall and consider that and An Another Thing all kind of one in the same
    Yeah, can just remove it from this list here. Little Thing actually came in 97th overall. It was in the Top 50 for 8 people.
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    Old 05-04-2020, 06:42 PM   #27
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    I'd've combined those as well as combining #36 & Everyday. I get that there are differences, but they are really just variations and/or evolutions of each other, regardless of how any of us feel about them.
    Considered combining these in the rankings, but too many people listed both in their Top 50 and it would have been a real pain.
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    Yeah, now that I'm thinking about it, this would make the most sense. I can shut down the Google Form and we can think up a deadline.
    Maybe we sync up with the Drive-In series?
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    Maybe we sync up with the Drive-In series?
    Adding a couple ideas to chew on:
    Brackets to be filled out by tomorrow.
    First 4 from today “counts” just to get this thing rolling.
    First Round vote Opens Wednesday results by Drive-In showtime
    Repeat each week...
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    Old 05-05-2020, 12:34 AM   #30
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    Considered combining these in the rankings, but too many people listed both in their Top 50 and it would have been a real pain.
    Hadn't considered that, you done it right yo.
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