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Old 09-15-2021, 12:18 PM   #31
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anyone that isn't Bela Fleck or Trey
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    Black Eyed Peas on Jimi comes to mind too.
    I thought Mike Doughty on Jimi at MSG 05 also stunk.
    They weren't guests. They were party crashers with microphones.
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    Old 09-15-2021, 12:27 PM   #33
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    This might be a hot take, but I wasnít crazy about ďCaptainĒ with Mark Whitfield at MSG. I was there and just wasnít into it. I know heís a great player, but a lot of his solo was completely out of key and not in a cool, jazz way lol.
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    Old 09-15-2021, 01:10 PM   #34
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    Tom Morello on American Baby Intro. First...why that song for him to guest on? Second...I don't notice him on the recording.
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    Old 09-15-2021, 01:20 PM   #35
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    This might be a hot take, but I wasnít crazy about ďCaptainĒ with Mark Whitfield at MSG. I was there and just wasnít into it. I know heís a great player, but a lot of his solo was completely out of key and not in a cool, jazz way lol.
    Funny, how music hits people differently. I thought that was one of the best songs of the 2 MSG shows.
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    Old 09-15-2021, 04:00 PM   #36
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    <div style="font-style:italic">This might be a hot take, but I wasnít crazy about ďCaptainĒ with Mark Whitfield at MSG. I was there and just wasnít into it. I know heís a great player, but a lot of his solo was completely out of key and not in a cool, jazz way lol.</div>
    </div>Funny, how music hits people differently. I thought that was one of the best songs of the 2 MSG shows.
    I think there are a lot of great aspects to his solo but the moments that donít hit for me reeeally donít hit lol. I would love to hear Stanley Jordan on that song over the same solo section.
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    Old 09-15-2021, 04:29 PM   #37
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    Tom Morello on American Baby Intro. First...why that song for him to guest on? Second...I don't notice him on the recording.
    He's noticeable on #41 on LT10. I don't have my copy to see how noticeable he is on ABI.
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    Old 09-15-2021, 04:31 PM   #38
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    was gonna pipe up but my nominations were covered within like the first 5 posts
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    Old 09-15-2021, 04:48 PM   #39
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    It was the 2013 Charlotte show and I was so stoked because I was finally going to see Stanley Jordan guest. Nope, he cancelled because of the rain. The rain. Seriously
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    Old 09-15-2021, 04:53 PM   #40
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    It was the 2013 Charlotte show and I was so stoked because I was finally going to see Stanley Jordan guest. Nope, he cancelled because of the rain. The rain. Seriously
    Haha WHAT?

    Mine would be the Lovely Ladies, sadly. Never had anything against them. It was more so Dave's fault for tanking the setlist after a great opening run. Chicago 2014.

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    Old 09-15-2021, 05:04 PM   #41
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    Tom Morello on American Baby Intro. First...why that song for him to guest on? Second...I don't notice him on the recording.
    Yeah, he's noticeable on ABI on LT10.
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    Old 09-15-2021, 05:36 PM   #42
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    Haha WHAT?

    Mine would be the Lovely Ladies, sadly. Never had anything against them. It was more so Dave's fault for tanking the setlist after a great opening run. Chicago 2014.

    LL's came out and then...

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    Iím still pissed they cut GGT from the E1 slot for that show too.
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    Old 09-15-2021, 05:55 PM   #43
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    Junior Brown. July 23, 2001 on "Two Step." I was so excited because it shoulda been in his wheelhouse and been one of the great guest spots of the summer... Carter switched up the beat I don't know how many times trying to get him to come up with something, but the jam just droned on. Never hated Two Step before that. Always feel a semi-twinge of dread now.
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    Old 09-15-2021, 06:35 PM   #44
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    I am a bigger Toots fan today than I was back in those days by tenfold. In fact, he is my king of reggae / ska... followed by Desmond Dekker. Bob Marley who?

    Toots doesn't get the appreciation I genuinely believe he deserves... doesn't make him a great guest though. I wish I'd been the fan I was now back when I saw them open for DMB quite a bit.
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    Old 09-15-2021, 06:59 PM   #45
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    To defend Smooth Rider, it was the highlight of the Camden show with Warren Haynes. Down By The River was great as well.
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    Old 09-15-2021, 07:01 PM   #46
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    Not DMB, but the worst guest I've ever seen at any show was Bob Dylan with Bruce Springsteen. Shea Stadium 2003. It was terrible, a video probably exists somewhere.
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    Old 09-15-2021, 07:05 PM   #47
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    Also - Robert Randolph taking over the show N2 at the Gorge this year
    This, alec. I've personally never been a R. Randolph fan. But that shit he pulled out at the gorge this year was absolutely painful to see on the stream
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    Old 09-15-2021, 09:03 PM   #48
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    Carlos Malta at the Gorge, I think 2016? I donít know if he wasnít close enough to the microphone or what but I thought it sounded terrible. His whole schtick just didnít do it for me and I think he guested every single night.
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    Old 09-15-2021, 10:09 PM   #49
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    I was at Black Eyed Peas Jimi Thing and I still say Alanis is more disappointing because it was considerably harder for Black Eyed Peas to disappoint me when I expected nothing from them
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    Old 09-15-2021, 10:13 PM   #50
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    I can tell you that it wasn’t Mr. Lawlor
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    Old 09-15-2021, 10:34 PM   #51
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    Carlos Malta at the Gorge, I think 2016? I donít know if he wasnít close enough to the microphone or what but I thought it sounded terrible. His whole schtick just didnít do it for me and I think he guested every single night.
    He sounded great on Cry Freedom and a couple others. But his Say Goodbye did not land for me either.
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    Old 09-16-2021, 12:11 AM   #52
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    To be fair the black eyed peas performance got noticeably better by will.i.am doing very basic stuff , even looks like the video I watched Dave points at him to get the microphone- can’t blame him fergie just brutalized it
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    Old 09-16-2021, 09:07 AM   #53
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    Dickey Betts?
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    Old 09-16-2021, 09:58 AM   #54
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    In The Edge's defense, U2 doesn't jam, in fact I think I seen it mentioned they don't care to in concert, so he wouldn't be strong at improvising.
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    Old 09-16-2021, 10:38 AM   #55
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    I think I would do a better solo and vocals.
    And I don't sing or play any instrument.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHFtLwnqSsE


    EDIT: OMG, Rashawn at 8:30. He saves this song and I guess all of them were like "finally! please just scream your trumpet at this asshole"
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    Old 09-16-2021, 10:44 AM   #56
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    anyone that isn't Bela Fleck or Trey
    Iíd take RR and Warren over Trey every single time.
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    Old 09-16-2021, 10:49 AM   #57
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    I think I would do a better solo and vocals.
    And I don't sing or play any instrument.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHFtLwnqSsE


    EDIT: OMG, Rashawn at 8:30. He saves this song and I guess all of them were like "finally! please just scream your trumpet at this asshole"
    There is no question that the musical part of that transition in the middle was pretty awkward and painful. And Toots' "yeah yeah yeah yeah" was very on brand for him, obviously not everyone's cup of tea but I actually liked that part.

    But really, no matter how bad anyone thinks this went, Toots is a REGGAE legend. NOT a jam-band legend, not a jazz improv legend. While there can be plenty of improv in Reggae too, it's not the same, and I love that DMB and Toots were up for experimenting, it didn't go great, lesson learned for this combo.

    But "asshole"??????? Wow, totally unnecessary. He's a great reggae artist and lovely human from what I hear, so maybe go easy on how riled up you get about what you don't like.
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    Iíd take RR and Warren over Trey every single time.
    Truth. Trey has made some magnificent messes of songs.

    I love what Lawler brings too.
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    Old 09-16-2021, 10:53 AM   #59
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    In The Edge's defense, U2 doesn't jam, in fact I think I seen it mentioned they don't care to in concert, so he wouldn't be strong at improvising.
    Wow, you're so right! I used to be a big U2 fan in the late 80s and I never really thought about "jamming" or improv at the time from show to show, you just cared about what songs they played.

    But now that you mention it, and as long as I've been seeing bands like Pearl Jam and Radiohead and DMB who try as much as possible NOT to play the same song the exact same way every time, now I realize I don't remember U2 ever improvising on anything except maybe lyrics here and there. Interesting....
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    Iíd take RR and Warren over Trey every single time.
    Warren maybe. RR no chance.

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    Truth. Trey has made some magnificent messes of songs.



    I love what Lawler brings too.
    Examples?
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