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Old 09-07-2021, 10:21 PM   #91
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It is funny to me that so many people think because Ross is “musical director” that the band couldn’t survive without him.
He adds nothing of value, sound wise, and the band did just fine - in fact you could argue much better before he got involved.
Does he add director value, I am sure but to make it out like he is the reason DMB is where they are so to speak is laughable imo.
He also is the least talented on stage imo and Jeff could blow him off the front if he wanted too.
I don't mind Rashawn at all but yeah, if Dave, Carter, and Stefan don't want to be the musical directors of the band...let Jeff have it, and also let him dominate the stage. The band would be fine.
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    If the band literally needs RR to do all those things, that's disappointing. No reason why musicians the caliber of Dave, Carter, Fonz, Tim, and Even Jeff can't fulfill all of that and more.

    That's not to take away what he's done and how LeRoi seemingly felt about him. But liberations, arrangements, motivation to try something they are uncomfortable with etc., should not fall squarely on RR to drive. Doesn't even make sense to me. That stuff should come from the OG members.

    As it relates to Buddy, I'm sure that post is getting unfairly dissected, and obviously the weekend was an amazing feat to pull off and they couldn't have done the same thing without Buddy...but the most musically defining thing RR has done? I mean he helped facilitate the outright replacement of an iconic part of the DMB's sound. Not a knock on Buddy or Ross as musicians...but why didn't he, I don't know, bring in the best violin player he knew instead?
    That ones easy...Dave didn't/doesn't want a violin.

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    Old 09-07-2021, 11:05 PM   #93
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    Does anyone have stories about Rashawn being a dick to fans? I've never heard about him being rude to DMB fans
    In 2009 I was invited on his bus behind spac and he told me no #2’s were allowed. Lol. This is a true story. I’d have said the same thing.
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    Old 09-08-2021, 08:27 AM   #94
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    Who gives a sh*t?!?
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    Old 09-08-2021, 08:45 AM   #95
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    My most profound non-musical decision I have ever made on this site is to ignore the crackpots, like those posting in this thread.
    You posted in this thread.
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    Old 09-08-2021, 09:45 AM   #96
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    I find hilarious that we have such a deep discussion about a trumpeter who blows his own trumpet. ;-)
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    Old 09-08-2021, 09:51 AM   #97
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    Lots of wannabe music and band directors here. Sounds a lot like wannabe COVID doctors on Facebook.
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    Old 09-08-2021, 10:19 AM   #98
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    Well, I don’t follow rashawn on Instagram so I was only able to read what was posted here. I just saw a screenshot of the entire post. I fully retract my initial statement of him sounding arrogant. The post came from a good place, in my opinion. Carry on…
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    Old 09-08-2021, 12:19 PM   #99
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    It is funny to me that so many people think because Ross is “musical director” that the band couldn’t survive without him.
    He adds nothing of value, sound wise, and the band did just fine - in fact you could argue much better before he got involved.
    Does he add director value, I am sure but to make it out like he is the reason DMB is where they are so to speak is laughable imo.
    He also is the least talented on stage imo and Jeff could blow him off the front if he wanted too.
    There are lots of takes in this post that I want to pick apart because you're being a real jerk about a guy who's been in the band since 2005, but this one got me. Dude is well-educated, incredibly accomplished, and literally creates many of the on-stage and in-studio arrangements we hear. It's one thing to say "I don't like the way his trumpet sounds with DMB," and leave it at that, but don't be a dick about it. The band looks up to him because of how talented he is. It's why LeRoi brought him to the band in the first place. It's just uncalled for, much like most of this thread and their personal attacks based on the fact they don't like the sound of his playing.
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    I got 16 CDs in the mail on Saturday. I am now going door to door asking people if they have found Dave and accepted him into their lives. If they say no I hand them a CD. My neighbors think I'm a little off but they seem to like the music.
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    Old 09-08-2021, 01:08 PM   #100
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    Lots of wannabe music and band directors here. Sounds a lot like wannabe COVID doctors on Facebook.
    Are we back to being COVID experts? I thought we were still on Foreign Policy.
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    Old 09-08-2021, 01:45 PM   #101
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    sounds like you have issues man
    So I have issues because I get on a message board and tell my exact thoughts? Im sorry you don’t like what I have to say.
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    Old 09-08-2021, 01:50 PM   #102
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    Why in the hell do people really think the band needs Rashawn? Did you not watch the Dave and Carter session? Like add Jeff and fonz, and that’s all they need. They survived 16 years without him. What in the world makes people think that can’t function without Rashawn?

    I’ll never buy into that shit notion. The band needs Carter to continue on. They don’t need Rashawn.
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    Old 09-08-2021, 01:59 PM   #103
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    Why in the hell do people really think the band needs Rashawn? Did you not watch the Dave and Carter session? Like add Jeff and fonz, and that’s all they need. They survived 16 years without him. What in the world makes people think that can’t function without Rashawn?

    I’ll never buy into that shit notion. The band needs Carter to continue on. They don’t need Rashawn.
    It's an irrelevant question because he's not going anywhere.
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    Old 09-08-2021, 02:27 PM   #104
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    Why in the hell do people really think the band needs Rashawn? Did you not watch the Dave and Carter session? Like add Jeff and fonz, and that’s all they need. They survived 16 years without him. What in the world makes people think that can’t function without Rashawn?

    I’ll never buy into that shit notion. The band needs Carter to continue on. They don’t need Rashawn.
    Doesn't matter what they need. Rashawn is part of the band, deal with it. You don't want to see the big bad trumpet man show boating (by bobbing his head on the side of the stage, playing trumpet, and singing a few back up vocals, THE NERVE OF THE GUY) then don't go to any more DMB shows.
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    Old 09-08-2021, 02:42 PM   #105
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    There will be plenty of LTs with just Butch + the standard lineup, or <'98 shows. I don't see why people can't just only spend their money on that.
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    Old 09-08-2021, 03:17 PM   #106
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    Not liking how RR sounds = only possible explanation is that he is an untalented selfish asshole that is only capable of playing high notes that continues to do so for selfish and ego driven reasons.

    Of course no thought about the fact that RR from a musical standpoint likely looks at it as he takes the higher notes while Jeff plays lower so that they get a bigger range, no thought about Dave wanting it to be the way it is and likely encouraging RR to keep playing the way he does. Everything that isn't liked has to be the end result of the guy you don't actually know being a horses ass.


    RR isn't a favorite for me on stage but I like some of what he does, the conclusions people go to for justifying a sound they don't like is comical
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    Old 09-08-2021, 03:18 PM   #107
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    There will be plenty of LTs with just Butch + the standard lineup, or <'98 shows. I don't see why people can't just only spend their money on that.
    I want some more ‘04 stuff. The bands pinnacle, in my opinion.
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    Lots of wannabe music and band directors here. Sounds a lot like wannabe COVID doctors on Facebook.
    Serious low hanging fruit here.
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    Old 09-08-2021, 04:19 PM   #109
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    Rashawn is not going anywhere. Go waste your time and hate on something else...Like I miss Jason Newsted/Robert Trujillo sucks, posts.
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    Old 09-08-2021, 04:37 PM   #110
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    Love these Rashawn debates because they always go the same way

    Every member of DMB, repeatedly over ten years: Rashawn is incredibly talented and plays a crucial role as the music director of our band.

    Random people on the internet who know nothing about music or how professional bands operate: I personally don't feel this is true. I believe Dave, Carter, Fonz, and Jeff could just get up on stage and spontaneously play all the best DMB songs (most of which have been out of rotation for years) with no direction. I also believe it's Rashawn's fault there's no violin anymore.
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    Old 09-08-2021, 04:49 PM   #111
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    Now Rashawn is the culprit why Boyd was fired.
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    So much pettiness in this thread.
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    Old 09-08-2021, 05:22 PM   #113
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    Some people need to take a step back and listen to themselves speak.
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    There will be plenty of LTs with just Butch + the standard lineup, or <'98 shows. I don't see why people can't just only spend their money on that.
    Uhhhh… I don’t foresee much more coming from ‘98. I have no problem with ‘98 sets (or Butch), but mark my words… you’ll be lucky to get one more.
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    Old 09-08-2021, 06:35 PM   #115
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    You posted in this thread.
    I didn't say all posters in this thread, just the crackpots. Pretty easy to identify.
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    <div style="font-style:italic">There will be plenty of LTs with just Butch + the standard lineup, or &lt;'98 shows. I don't see why people can't just only spend their money on that.</div>
    </div>Uhhhh… I don’t foresee much more coming from ‘98. I have no problem with ‘98 sets (or Butch), but mark my words… you’ll be lucky to get one more.
    Why? Summer ‘98 is a lot of untouched territory for Live Trax releases.
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    You just referenced the Wizards teams that missed the playoffs? So Rashawn is the coach that can't get a team with an older MJ into the playoffs in a weak Eastern conference? Ok. Odd comparison.
    DMB used to sell out 3 nights of Hartford and have multiple 2 night stands that are now down to 1 night. They are not an in their prime playoff team. Come Tomorrow was overall a trash album and Away from the world was ok but didn't translate as well live outside of a few songs.

    That said despite the fall off of production from their prime years they still bring crowds and have attention despite them being past prime and a below .500 team. We are enjoying the talent before they retire.
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    Backreading now - 98 is rumored to have lost/damaged tapes, etc. so I don't know how much more we see from that year.
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    DMB used to sell out 3 nights of Hartford and have multiple 2 night stands that are now down to 1 night. They are not an in their prime playoff team. Come Tomorrow was overall a trash album and Away from the world was ok but didn't translate as well live outside of a few songs.

    That said despite the fall off of production from their prime years they still bring crowds and have attention despite them being past prime and a below .500 team. We are enjoying the talent before they retire.
    I think come tomorrow is the greatest studio effort since lws/busted stuff. To me, come tomorrow sounded like dmb again. I can understand if you don’t like it, art is subjective. But to call it trash is downright poppycock.
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    I didn’t say shows had to be from ‘98 to enjoy standard DMB. There’s tons in the vault from before ‘98 and the Butch years after ‘98.
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