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Originally Posted by pzamps210
Audio question. When you rip vinyl to flac is it seamless? Are there audio quality issues?
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If you're looking for a torrent of a vinyl rip for example, if it doesn't list equipment I'd say don't bother. If it has someone who lists a fancy PCM card, detailed cleaning method, fancy pants turntable like a VPI Scout with a Dynavector cart, describes in detail their recording and post-processing method, the audio quality issues should be slim to none and the rip should be good.
Someone ripping from a $250 USB built-in turntable? I most likely would not be interested. (I'm not interested in vinyl rips period, just offering my opinion)
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Originally Posted by justink
what do you mean seamless?
vinyl rips can sound better than cd's if done properly.
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With so many of today's major label releases, the CD master is the vinyl master. So in this case you're just creating additional steps away from what most closely resembles the original master.
In the case of a MOFI release where it's only vinyl and the vinyl now has a different master than the CD, yes I'd agree the vinyl rip could sound better.
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Originally Posted by Benny003
I'd love to have this vinyl release in my collection because it is a little bit special, but the price really is absurd.
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Agreed, and I'm in the same boat as you. Wish I had the spare cash, but would rather put that money towards my 4K OLED fund.
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Originally Posted by sheldonlevene
Side totals are a good indicator, but there are other factors at play no?
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For sure there are, DMB have had the running times covered since LT1 came out so I would be flabberghasted if they suddenly released a live compilation running 29 mins/side. You can have a great master and screw it all up with running times that require low volume cuts resulting in high levels of noise floor.
What we have seen with all 5 Live Trax releases as well as Crash and RR95 is mastering specifically for vinyl, I can't see any reason to think they won't be doing that with this release.
All five LTs sound better than the digital versions, mastered specifically for vinyl in each case by Scott Hull at Masterdisk. These are all 16/44.1 masters, so that's CD-quality...but the mastering makes the difference.
Red Rocks '95 is a DAT master so it's either 16/44.1 or 16/48, but rather than just cutting the existing mastering to vinyl they mastered it specifically for vinyl by Chris Bellman - the difference is noticeable, the air in Carter's cymbals has much more energy to my ears.
MPO have been doing a decent job with pressing, I don't know if they're doing this one but I would expect they are. I would love them to move to Optimal in Germany or RTI in California, but MPO are definintely a big step above URP in Nashville or Rainbo in California.
Yes there is much more than running times per side, but the DMB releases over the past few years have demonstrated that all facets of the vinyl medium are being considered.
If you can get past the cost, in my opinion there is little reason to think this release will sound anything other than fantastic. I suppose maybe someone may not like the mix, but as far as issues surrounding the medium, no concerns at all.
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Originally Posted by robby_idol
That's a big leap. I doubt mixing a whole show vs. one song is as likely or simple as you're making it sound. I'm sure it's not a "mix one song then copy/paste settings to rest of show" type thing.
It's possible a show or two on this list is fully mixed, perhaps even previous to this set being created. But I really don't think the tracks on Live 25 are culled from future LT/DMBlive selections. A lot of them are probably one-off highlights from shows that are otherwise unremarkable.
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Exactly. Mastering isn't cheap no matter who you use and while they do mixing in house, they don't master in house. You're not going to pay for 20+ whole shows to be mixed and mastered for 25 tracks to be released. That's just bad economics. In addition with that many different sources, your mastering will be different for one track from one show than it would be for that track being released with the balance of the show that track is from.
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Originally Posted by TheLastPig
So what youre saying is hardcore fans who arent into vinyl or cant drop $175+ on a wimb can just get fucked?
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What he's saying is, the market just isn't there for digital downloads.