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Old 05-23-2019, 10:51 AM   #61
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The amount of people who pay hundreds of dollars for PIT/seats and spend the entire show talking is mind blowing. It's like they view a concert as a bar. Somewhere to hang out and shoot the S.
When its a band like dmb that such a large portion of the attendees only come for the sake of nostalgia, it kind of makes sense.
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    The amount of people who pay hundreds of dollars for PIT/seats and spend the entire show talking is mind blowing. It's like they view a concert as a bar. Somewhere to hang out and shoot the S.

    Definitely like a bar, but with the option of posting on social media that you're at an event. I guess that's worth $270 in tickets and $14 per beer?
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    Old 05-23-2019, 10:55 AM   #63
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    When its a band like dmb that such a large portion of the attendees only come for the sake of nostalgia, it kind of makes sense.

    Dispatch was the absolute WORST for this. It was nothing but 30-something bros who were there to talk about their glory days back in college when they would rip bongs and listen to Dispatch. NO ONE was paying even the slightest attention to the show, other than my small group. We could barely hear the music over the talking.

    Don't get me wrong, I used to rip bongs and listen to Dispatch and was there mostly for the nostalgia of that. BUT, I wanted to experience that nostalgia through the music, not through conversation.
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    Old 05-23-2019, 10:56 AM   #64
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    Definitely like a bar, but with the option of posting on social media that you're at an event. I guess that's worth $270 in tickets and $14 per beer?
    Narcissism is a powerful thing.

    My dad was working in London a couple years ago and flew my brother and I over for a week. We went to a Liverpool vs Manchester City game in Liverpool. Not a big deal for us, but a big deal for the English/Europeans.

    The tickets my dad got were in a 'tourist' section. Basically everyone in this section is from some other country. Throughout the entire game, a guy in front of us from Malaysia or something was posting on Facebook. Taking pictures, posting, looking for comments on his posts, refreshing, posting pics, refreshing etc.

    I couldn't help but watch his screen every so often just to see what he was doing.. it was truly pathetic. Dude spent 100+ dollars on an experience only to stare at his phone the entire game.
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    Re: What venue has the worst crowd?

    The SPAC lawn is where Satan vacations.
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    Old 05-23-2019, 11:13 AM   #67
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    Also, I don't know if DMB plays Darien Lake anymore, but the Darien Lake lawn used to be a shit show too.
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    Old 05-23-2019, 12:36 PM   #68
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    I love how someone used a clip from Hartford, from twenty fucking years ago lol. I've been going to Hartford for years and never had an issue with crowds, the worst part of the venue is trying to leave the GP lot.

    SPAC lawn is oversold but if you get in early enough and get a spot towards one of the sides it isn't the nightmare people make it out to be. I tend to not let other people around be affect my enjoyment of a show, it seems like a lot of people go to shows looking for something to complain about whether it be set lists or crowds.
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    First time I did lawn on Hartford some guy tried to beat the shit out of my friend for no reason and I missed a lot of the show because of it, plus a few other fights and weird shit going on.
    Last time, almost 8 years later, I personally witnessed at least 5 unconscious drunks, many of whom were alone and choking on their own vomit,requiring medical assistance, as well as multiple fights.
    Its definitely trash.
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    Old 05-23-2019, 01:06 PM   #70
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    I love how someone used a clip from Hartford, from twenty fucking years ago lol. I've been going to Hartford for years and never had an issue with crowds, the worst part of the venue is trying to leave the GP lot.

    SPAC lawn is oversold but if you get in early enough and get a spot towards one of the sides it isn't the nightmare people make it out to be. I tend to not let other people around be affect my enjoyment of a show, it seems like a lot of people go to shows looking for something to complain about whether it be set lists or crowds.
    If itís so hard for you to read any criticisms whatsoever surrounding this band why do you continue to come around here?

    Iíve never been to Hartford, but of my years of fandom Iíve read countless horror stories out there, it was the first venue that popped into my head when I read this thread title.
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    Old 05-23-2019, 01:07 PM   #71
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    I was wearing a Bills hoodie at the gorge last year and got some comments about wanting to fight (from Seahawks fans)

    Why in the world would a west coast NFC team have any beef with an eastern AFC losing franchise is beyond me, I just laughed at them
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    It happened twice, once while walking in by I believe the owner of Whitehorse camgrounds son (reason I know this because the drunk girl he was with loveddddddddddddd to tell everyone)

    Then on lawn when I was sitting down next to a guy in a Seahawks blanket (this guy admittedly was more of a Washington Huskies fan than Seahawks)

    Both occasions ended up being alright once they realized I knew the Bills sucked

    Odd story to me because my first time at the Gorge it was chilly and I was wearing a Carolina Panthers hoody for majority of the weekend in the campground and no one said anything to me. The Panthers beat the Seahawks earlier that year in the playoffs to end their season.

    Then last year at the Gorge I wore at least 1 PSU shirt for a day/show and no one said anything to me... after PSU beat Washington in the Fiesta Bowl the season before.
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    IMO Hartford is much better now then it was 5-10 years ago. It's really calmed down a lot and last year it seemed like just another venue to me. Arguably the "rowdiest" lot, the midas lot (or the grassy area attached to it), was not open last year and I've noticed more of a police presence in recent years.

    I know the question was meant to mean craziest/wildest crowd, but if we are just talking about worst crowd (in terms of not responding to the music, etc.), Jones Beach has to be on the list. Also, believe it or not, the Gorge. For all the hype the venue gets (and deserves), the crowd, in my opinion, sucks lol. I was expecting a Spac, Alpine, MSG type loud crowd and it was nothing like that at all.
    I agree but not for rowdiness....I have never seen so many people sitting during classic old school DMB jams as I saw on the gorge lawn last year. Kind of blew me away since it has the rep of being mecca, but I guess even mecca attracts less than die hards. guessing those were the ones sitting.
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    I agree but not for rowdiness....I have never seen so many people sitting during classic old school DMB jams as I saw on the gorge lawn last year. Kind of blew me away since it has the rep of being mecca, but I guess even mecca attracts less than die hards. guessing those were the ones sitting.
    Was in lawn all three nights last year and didnt notice anything like that. It always depends who youre around.
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    Old 05-23-2019, 01:45 PM   #74
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    I agree but not for rowdiness....I have never seen so many people sitting during classic old school DMB jams as I saw on the gorge lawn last year. Kind of blew me away since it has the rep of being mecca, but I guess even mecca attracts less than die hards. guessing those were the ones sitting.
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    Was in lawn all three nights last year and didnt notice anything like that. It always depends who youre around.
    Also the Gorge lawn is really steep which could contribute to some people sitting down more than they usually would
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    I love how someone used a clip from Hartford, from twenty fucking years ago lol. I've been going to Hartford for years and never had an issue with crowds, the worst part of the venue is trying to leave the GP lot.

    SPAC lawn is oversold but if you get in early enough and get a spot towards one of the sides it isn't the nightmare people make it out to be. I tend to not let other people around be affect my enjoyment of a show, it seems like a lot of people go to shows looking for something to complain about whether it be set lists or crowds.
    What?!

    How can you not let people around you affect your experience when you're literally elbow to elbow with these out of control humans or if you have lawn chairs where the arms of the chairs are literally touching and idiots meandering around are still trying to squeeze through your crew in between the non-existent gaps between chairs?
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    Old 05-23-2019, 01:52 PM   #76
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    Gorge lawn sits and stands depending on where you are. Always been that way. The further back and on sides, everyone sits.
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    What?!

    How can you not let people around you affect your experience when you're literally elbow to elbow with these out of control humans or if you have lawn chairs where the arms of the chairs are literally touching and idiots meandering around are still trying to squeeze through your crew in between the non-existent gaps between chairs?

    He only gets rattled by opinions on message boards.
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    Old 05-23-2019, 02:08 PM   #78
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    Not the worst crowd, but the sound system at the venue in Tinley Park, IL, is quite possibly the worst in the country. Makes for an angry crowd.

    The best show I ever saw was 7/3/03 there, and luckily we had seats.
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    Not the worst crowd, but the sound system at the venue in Tinley Park, IL, is quite possibly the worst in the country. Makes for an angry crowd.

    The best show I ever saw was 7/3/03 there, and luckily we had seats.
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    I love how someone used a clip from Hartford, from twenty fucking years ago lol. I've been going to Hartford for years and never had an issue with crowds, the worst part of the venue is trying to leave the GP lot.

    SPAC lawn is oversold but if you get in early enough and get a spot towards one of the sides it isn't the nightmare people make it out to be. I tend to not let other people around be affect my enjoyment of a show, it seems like a lot of people go to shows looking for something to complain about whether it be set lists or crowds.

    You seem to have no problem with Hartford. You're not a good judge of crowds.


    Hartford is the worst collection of people.
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    If itís so hard for you to read any criticisms whatsoever surrounding this band why do you continue to come around here?

    Iíve never been to Hartford, but of my years of fandom Iíve read countless horror stories out there, it was the first venue that popped into my head when I read this thread title.
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    He only gets rattled by opinions on message boards.
    I have every right to express my opinion here, whether good, bad or indifferent. Just because I don't always fall in with the group think doesn't mean I'm wrong. My experiences at Hartford have always been positive, sorry it goes against what you have heard.

    As far as SPAC, my first two shows we're D&T in '17, had seats both nights and it was phenomenal. Last year I was on the lawn both nights and where it was crowded, I was with a big group that met up with others and held a solid section of the lawn and had an absolute blast, to the point where I'm not upset to be on the lawn again this year.

    Sorry to have disturbed your safe spaces by calling out trivial bullshit.
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    Oh good Lord

    SPAC lawn is, indeed, a shit show - objectively speaking. Not being bothered by said shit show is a completely different story.
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    Oh good Lord

    SPAC lawn is, indeed, a shit show - objectively speaking. Not being bothered by said shit show is a completely different story.


    Its indisputable.

    I guess people citing their personal experiences is "calling out trivial bullshit" since it doesnt align with his opinion.
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    Oh good Lord

    SPAC lawn is, indeed, a shit show - objectively speaking. Not being bothered by said shit show is a completely different story.
    Exactly. I never said it wasn't packed or oversold, I said my experience wasn't ruined by it. I could give a shit if people feel the same or not.
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    Exactly. I never said it wasn't packed or oversold, I said my experience wasn't ruined by it. I could give a shit if people feel the same or not.
    Since you tried to tear down everyone dumping on hartford like it was all based on one video, it sounds like you do give a shit.
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    Its indisputable.

    I guess people citing their personal experiences is "calling out trivial bullshit" since it doesnt align with his opinion.
    Even though my personal experiences are criticized because they go against the group think on these boards lol you guys are hilarious.
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    Since you tried to tear down everyone dumping on hartford like it was all based on one video, it sounds like you do give a shit.
    I was talking about the SPAC lawn in that response, try and keep up guy.
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    Even though my personal experiences are criticized because they go against the group think on these boards lol you guys are hilarious.
    Exceptions don't make the rule. Do you not understand that at this point in your life?
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    Even though my personal experiences are criticized because they go against the group think on these boards lol you guys are hilarious.
    No one said your experience doesnt count, but you were convoluting something actually being a shit show vs letting it affect you. Those are two different things, as scrock pointed out.
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