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Old 08-14-2017, 12:40 PM   #39451
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    Telling people to stay home, things aren't worth protesting is literally a very big reason why people protest
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    Old 08-14-2017, 12:43 PM   #39453
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    saying the counter-protestors should have stayed home is ridiculous imo. One of the biggest reasons the Nazis were able to rise to power is because the people let it happen, they stayed silent as more and more of their friends and neighbors bought into the propaganda and lies.

    yes, some of the counter-protesting by the "SJWs" is getting a bit ridiculous, but KKK/Nazi rallies should ALWAYS inspire a strong protest. The day it doesn't is the day we're in real trouble.
    I couldn't disagree more. Those type fringe groups are the kinds that you just absolutely ignore and stay away from on every level.

    We're not talking about these morons taking over government or controlling the army.

    To even suggest that "allowing" these rallies to occur will lead to what happened in Germany 60 years ago is pretty hard to take seriously.

    The moment you engage with them, you legitimize them.
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    I couldn't disagree more. Those type fringe groups are the kinds that you just absolutely ignore and stay away from on every level.

    We're not talking about these morons taking over government or controlling the army.

    To even suggest that "allowing" these rallies to occur will lead to what happened in Germany 60 years ago is pretty hard to take seriously.

    The moment you engage with them, you legitimize them.
    There's more than one sympathetic guy in our White House right now. You think Bannon is going to condemn this shit?
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    Old 08-14-2017, 12:46 PM   #39455
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    http://www.dailyprogress.com/news/lo...ign=user-share

    Waldo resigned from the Virginia board of the ACLU to protest their stance
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    Old 08-14-2017, 12:46 PM   #39456
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    Telling people to stay home, things aren't worth protesting is literally a very big reason why people protest
    Yeah, people are p dumb, for sure.
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    Old 08-14-2017, 12:47 PM   #39457
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    Telling people to stay home, things aren't worth protesting is literally a very big reason why people protest
    doesn't mean it isn't true
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    Old 08-14-2017, 12:47 PM   #39458
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    Yeah, people are p dumb, for sure.
    If someone held an anti-Rahm rally you wouldn't go (well, I know you wouldn't ) or defend it?
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    Old 08-14-2017, 12:48 PM   #39459
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    doesn't mean it isn't true
    So America has never had any effect protests?

    Could have fooled me.
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    Old 08-14-2017, 12:49 PM   #39460
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    So America has never had any effect protests?

    Could have fooled me.
    it has, a long time ago
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    Telling people to stay home, things aren't worth protesting is literally a very big reason why people protest
    I guess we should all just keep it to twitter right?
    Such a silly way to view things.


    "Everyone has a right to assemble, even if theyre crazy white supremacists!"

    And

    "If you go and counter protest you are an idiot"

    dont really add up.
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    Families can't let their kids leave the house for fear they will be murdered because the racists have come to town to spew their message of hate and people think this isn't worth protesting?

    What is then?
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    Old 08-14-2017, 12:52 PM   #39463
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    it has, a long time ago
    This. Plus, people protest everything nowadays, so the entire idea of a protest is completely watered down and ineffective.
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    Old 08-14-2017, 12:53 PM   #39464
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    they substitute taught for one day and now have a million dollar pension

    give me a fucking break :jerk off motion
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    Old 08-14-2017, 12:53 PM   #39465
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    wonder what soros' bill was for the weekend

    must have cost a fortune!
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    bills are paying the jags o-line coach 4 million this year.

    that will be a tough one for the aliens to figure out.
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    Old 08-14-2017, 12:54 PM   #39466
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    they substitute taught for one day and now have a million dollar pension

    give me a fucking break :jerk off motion
    Not worth protesting
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    Old 08-14-2017, 12:57 PM   #39467
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    Stress sure looks like its getting to don.. sheesh

    https://twitter.com/maxsparber/statu...84417281699840
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    Old 08-14-2017, 01:03 PM   #39468
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    they substitute taught for one day and now have a million dollar pension

    give me a fucking break :jerk off motion
    He's also a union lobbyist, so I'm sure he knows exactly how to get around all of the rules and our supreme court has already ruled that IL owes and cannot change its pension obligations, which means, once you're in you're in forever and there's nothing that can be legally done otherwise.
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    Old 08-14-2017, 01:08 PM   #39469
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    Stress sure looks like its getting to don.. sheesh

    https://twitter.com/maxsparber/statu...84417281699840
    That's photoshopped
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    Old 08-14-2017, 01:09 PM   #39470
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    wonder what soros' bill was for the weekend

    must have cost a fortune!
    Reddit is convinced that our world is just one big "Soros Op".
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    That's photoshopped
    And stupid
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    Old 08-14-2017, 01:12 PM   #39472
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    That's photoshopped
    I figured
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    Old 08-14-2017, 01:14 PM   #39473
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    Some valid points in this imo...

    https://twitter.com/RitaPanahi/statu...67810056151040
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    Old 08-14-2017, 01:20 PM   #39474
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    I guess we should all just keep it to twitter right?
    Such a silly way to view things.


    "Everyone has a right to assemble, even if theyre crazy white supremacists!"

    And

    "If you go and counter protest you are an idiot"

    dont really add up.
    It adds up perfectly...People are free to do dumb things, like go to political rallies. I have no idea what's confusing about either.
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    it has, a long time ago
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    This. Plus, people protest everything nowadays, so the entire idea of a protest is completely watered down and ineffective.
    How long ago are you guys talking? When would you say the last effective one was? And what specifically made it effect vs other (in your views) non-effective "pointless" ones.

    EDIT: Also, you avoided my anti-Rahm rally question converse...
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    Maybe, in the hypothetical sense, sure.

    But how many people that are described as "SJWs" are actually counting the injustices in movies between races and making a big deal out of it? My guess is the percentage of those being called "SJWs" and those actually acting it out to the extent described is a lot lower than the percent that are called out as Neo Nazis/White Supremacists/etc and act out the definition of those groups
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    No surprise, if it were not for all the benefits no one would have a reason to work for the fedzilla. Sad but true.

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    So America has never had any effect protests?
    It has been about half a century since one was both constructive and effective.

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    wonder what soros' bill was for the weekend

    must have cost a fortune!
    Bet it did considering the silly demented old nazi (a real one, not some right wing loon) was probably paying both sides. No idea why we took that scumbag into our country.

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    He's also a union lobbyist, so I'm sure he knows exactly how to get around all of the rules and our supreme court has already ruled that IL owes and cannot change its pension obligations, which means, once you're in you're in forever and there's nothing that can be legally done otherwise.
    This is why unions and lobbies are such a huge thing - there is so much money in it for those who game the system. It is pathetic how much money is wasted on unions who pay millions out in de facto bribes so they can get the politicians on their side via a thousand dollar an hour lobbyist.
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    Old 08-14-2017, 01:24 PM   #39478
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    It has been about half a century since one was both constructive and effective.
    What made it effective vs recent ones you see as ineffective?
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    The tweets coming from maxine waters (D-Mars) are matching trump word for word in terms of idiocy.
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    How long ago are you guys talking? When would you say the last effective one was? And what specifically made it effect vs other (in your views) non-effective "pointless" ones.

    EDIT: Also, you avoided my anti-Rahm rally question converse...
    What's the question? If it's would I attend an anti-Rahm rally, the answer is a stout no.
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