That Girl Is You

[elconguero]

Originally Posted by earl

Its not a matter of difficulty determining artistic value. But as a singer who works on his vocals and vocal delivery, when I first heard TGIY I was thinking "Jesus Christ, now here is a guy in complete command of his vocals". He can go so many different places with his voice, and he does - not for the sake of displaying his abilities but for conveying yet even deeper emotions. I can't help but appreciate that, while genuinely enjoying the sound of him doing so within the context of an almost 30-year-old band that is still evolving.

If you or others think it is 'shitty' art then, like you said, to each their own.


**This is also doesn't mean I'm over here listening to the song on repeat, or think it is some great artistic statement. But their is beauty on this album that is being overlooked. It almost seems like some people are in a rush to form an opinion about the new material. And why these broad, blanket generalizations like 'shitty'? So a song is either 'shitty' or 'not-shitty'? Up to par or not?

good stuff.

sometimes an artist just hits everything they were going for that even if it's not perfect, in the classic sense, you leave it because it's real and raw. it's art. 30 vocal takes later you may lose what inspired you about it.


who would visit Pisa if it were fully erect?

smooth Italian, leaning against his sports car, eyeing up your wife:

"tower? what tower? why are you taping me?!"



for the record, the section in Cant Stop with "so hungry" is the worst dmb thing ever created. i cringe every time. every time.

[chadizzy1]

Originally Posted by elconguero

good stuff.

sometimes an artist just hits everything they were going for that even if it's not perfect, in the classic sense, you leave it because it's real and raw. it's art. 30 vocal takes later you may lose what inspired you about it.


who would visit Pisa if it were fully erect?

smooth Italian, leaning against his sports car, eyeing up your wife:

"tower? what tower? why are you taping me?!"



for the record, the section in Cant Stop with "so hungry" is the worst dmb thing ever created. i cringe every time. every time.

Teehee...

[jmkratt]

I went from hating it... to hoping I never hear it again.

[Bmwm3oz]

Originally Posted by jmkratt

I went from hating it... to hoping I never hear it again.

same.

[earl]

Originally Posted by Bmwm3oz

I love the art card. Here is more ‘art’ for you. Yes, people actually clapped for this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdZ9weP5i68

There will always be dedicated fans who try to find a deep meaning in Kayne West poop song, or Yoko Ono’s episode, or the vocals in this DMb song.

Just like there will always be people who find a bucket of paint thrown against a wall as something amazing that ‘you just don’t understand’.

Not trying to insult you, but you’re not gonna convince me Dave is even trying here. It took them six years to make this album and everyone got tired of waiting so Dave recorded this ‘solo’ song half drunk just to get the album finished.

Seriously comparing TGIY to Kanye's Poop song and Yoko Ono? A bucket of paint thrown against the wall?

And you were worried about insulting me? Not embarrassing yourself?

If the appeal of the song is lost on you that is no sweat off my back. If finding elements in it I can enjoy reflects poorly upon me, in your eyes, that also doesn't bother me. Maybe you find some sort of psychological comfort in believing you simply 'know better' or have higher standards than us deluded 'artsy' types. Maybe you've been brainwashed by a message board into believing incessant criticism and pessimism are to be admired and are, in fact, the markings of a 'true' fan. Maybe you and I simply differ as to what makes pleasing sound.

But you are right about one thing. There is tons and tons and tons of art that is recognized as brilliant/beautiful/whatever by some while many others "just don't understand".

[earl]

Originally Posted by elconguero

for the record, the section in Cant Stop with "so hungry" is the worst dmb thing ever created. i cringe every time. every time.

yea CS is one I can't really get behind. But in the last version I heard (the uptempo version) the 'so hungry' part was the one section I actually sort of liked.

I think the band knows the song is missing something, and that is why they reworked it. It is an improvement but a Tyler Durden quote comes to mind: "You're polishing brass on the Titanic; it's all going down". If an ugly person gets botox or a facelift, sure they may have less wrinkles, but they are still ugly.

I am no DMB apologist. Just try to listen objectively is all.

[Bmwm3oz]

Originally Posted by earl

Maybe you find some sort of psychological comfort in believing you simply 'know better' or have higher standards than us deluded 'artsy' types.

Wait, didn't you just make this post yesterday?

'I don't say too much around here, but there seems to be too many kneejerk reactions that then turn into bandwagon opinions.

(not among the musicians, though ;-)'

That's quite an assumption, isn't it? Discrediting someones opinion because you've assumed they are not a musician?

For the record, I've been playing music my entire life and I personally believe That Girl is You is the worst song Dave has ever written. And I truly believe he would laugh if anyone called it art. Guys like Dave write songs like this in under an hour.

That's all I have energy for. Glad you enjoy it.

[gakm7]

Originally Posted by earl

I am no DMB apologist. Just try to listen objectively is all.

Definitely. That's the way I am with it, and I've found that I either liked (or eventually liked) the vast majority of their catalog, and could at least tolerate most of the remaining part of their catalog, outside of Be Yourself... I still can't find any redeeming quality to that song.

[Whiteyxc514]

https://twitter.com/davematthewsbnd/...064422402?s=21

[GoingToCA91]

Love this soundboard of TGIY from Atlanta! It's always nice to get HQ stuff from a show I was at

[Bmwm3oz]

I can't believe I'm making this confession, but the Lakeview performance of That Girl is You has me liking this song. I think because of the build up with Carter... it actually is pretty good! The studio version is still god awful for me, but I'm sure it'll grow on me.

I never thought I would cave on this one.. wow

[earl]

Originally Posted by Bmwm3oz

I can't believe I'm making this confession, but the Lakeview performance of That Girl is You has me liking this song. I think because of the build up with Carter... it actually is pretty good! The studio version is still god awful for me, but I'm sure it'll grow on me.

I never thought I would cave on this one.. wow

PEOPLE.

Why is anyone ashamed or embarrassed to admit they like this song?!?! This is the band we love.

[Bmwm3oz]

Originally Posted by earl

PEOPLE.

Why is anyone ashamed or embarrassed to admit they like this song?!?! This is the band we love.

[densbucs]

Originally Posted by BPClemens

I'm so glad I waited to read this thread until after I listened to the song, because I thought it was great and apparently I'm in the minority. I don't know what people expect but it's getting harder and harder to come here for Dave news. I love this band so much and am addicted to this site and discussion about all things DMB, but am increasingly finding the highly critical viewpoints to bum me the hell out. I thought the song had a fun catchy riff, and as a singer who can't sing, prefer the flawed passionate vocal vibe (aka Bob Dylan) to the polished perfect vocals of many singers. I felt Dave's passion in the song and also appreciate the fact that it wasn't bogged down with too much extra stuff (horns, solos) just for the sake of including them...to me this means it has more potentially to be jammed out in different ways.

This.

[BigHappy]

Where's that thing with TGIY and Jeff Buckley Hallelujah?

[artiej1120]

This song fucks. Like it more every time I hear it.

[SmoothD41]

Song has definitely grown on me. I never hated it, thought it was interesting but also a little ridiculous (still do, but that's actually part of its charm), but I really kind of dig it now. Especially from 1:40 on.

[DMBCardinal]

I like it, but I really wish they added the breakdown that they do live. It takes the song to another level.

[bjordan319]

This song is annoyingly growing on me, why did he have to sing it like that?

[grilldanmo]

At SPAC N1, this song was especially excellent.

Full disclosure, I've loved it since I first heard it. But the full band build really gives it more of everything. The extra added was the band getting the audience to clap as another layer of the rhythm builds in the tune. Not only did it make sense, add perfectly to the tune, but all the folks around us loved it.

[Cptn. Monkeyman]

When this song disappears, the haters will come around

[Dodo36]

Originally Posted by elconguero

for the record, the section in Cant Stop with "so hungry" is the worst dmb thing ever created. i cringe every time. every time.

i'll counter with a then-38-year-old Dave singing "...then your daddy caught me sneaking out your bed."

[ExistenceNow]

Originally Posted by Bmwm3oz

I can't believe I'm making this confession, but the Lakeview performance of That Girl is You has me liking this song. I think because of the build up with Carter... it actually is pretty good! The studio version is still god awful for me, but I'm sure it'll grow on me.

I never thought I would cave on this one.. wow

I don't even know you anymore.

[dreamer689]

This is a fun one. I am impressed that Dave created the studio cut all on his own.

[Slackdoodle]

Originally Posted by BPClemens

I'm so glad I waited to read this thread until after I listened to the song, because I thought it was great and apparently I'm in the minority. I don't know what people expect but it's getting harder and harder to come here for Dave news. I love this band so much and am addicted to this site and discussion about all things DMB, but am increasingly finding the highly critical viewpoints to bum me the hell out.

You have to ignore 'em. Back in the late 90's/early 00's most everyone on this site's boards was young and excited and full of neo-hippy verve. It was all about the love, baby.


Then DMB had some rough years, some not-so-great albums, etc.



Now the boards are full of bitter, jaded old troll-men who forgot how to have fun, and believe Dave should be writing music to serve their grimdark aesthetic and general weariness with life.


You don't gotta surrender to that. None of us do. Love it up, dance, be joyful. There's a new DMB album this summer. It kicks ass.

[tehflip]

Originally Posted by artiej1120

This song fucks. Like it more every time I hear it.

"it change the way i see the world.."

Yessir, spot on. grows on me like weeds.

[ExistenceNow]

This song is like genital warts... even when it's not there in front of me, it's still somewhere else sucking.

[jmkratt]

Originally Posted by ExistenceNow

This song is like genital warts... even when it's not there in front of me, it's still somewhere else sucking.

[Julia Roberts]

This song is like Donald Trump... I can’t believe it actually happened.

[Madnana]

...no matter how overtly treasonous it is, we can't seem to get rid of it because of those around who enable & defend it