The Batman - Solo Batfleck Film (Release: 25 June 2021)

[UCFish]

Originally Posted by M. Steng

Well, the nerds were gonna see it no matter what. It was the GA/non-nerd audience they were after.

Agreed that it is becoming more and more apparent that WB is spiraling out of control. They should turn these properties over to people who know what the fuck they're doing.

Disney should buy DC and run it.

[M. Steng]

Originally Posted by UCFish

Disney should buy DC and run it.

Nah, DC doesn't try to make kids' movies

[chadizzy1]

Originally Posted by chadizzy1

George Miller.
Frank Miller.
Guillermo del Toro.

http://www.cbr.com/batman-director-g...FB-P&view=list

"While Deadline suggests Matt Ross (“Captain Fantastic”) is also a contender, Forbes adds three more filmmakers to the mix: Gavin O’Connor (“Warrior,” “The Accountant”), Denis Villeneuve (“Sicario,” “Blade Runner 2049”) and George Miller (“Mad Max: Fury Road”)."

Yes please!

[DMBzilla]

Originally Posted by sheldonlevene

They really are.

The more BvS settles the better it gets. I realize I'm a DC homer. But man it's a good movie. It's very different than the Avengers or Civil War (which isn't to cast dispersions on those films), but I just don't think people knew what they were getting going in...and were disappointed by the grave nature of the film and it's conflict.

I really can't pick on much of MoS or BvS other than the casting/acting of Eisenberg as Lex...that was a miss...at least in his first appearance.

I hate when people dismiss others' valid opinions with shit like this.

I don't care that it was dark, or that it wasn't conventional. I like plenty of films with those elements. I didn't like the fact that the movie was a mess with a thrown together story that wasted characters unnecessarily and had multiple laugh out loud moments of stupidity.

Suicide Squad was also bad apparently (still haven't seen it) and now The Batman is in shambles and Flash is getting a rewrite already? Par for the course at this point.

[chadizzy1]

Suicide Squad was awesome.

[bradshaw06]

Originally Posted by M. Steng

Nah, DC doesn't try to make kids' movies

They apparently don't try to make good movies either.

[Jake]

Originally Posted by chadizzy1

Suicide Squad was awesome.

no it wasn't. They fucked up the story badly. The idea of SS was great, but they failed.


the sooner you admit it the better things will get.




still better than MARTHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[junior94]

Originally Posted by chadizzy1

Suicide Squad was awesome.

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

[chadizzy1]

#hatersgonnahate
#stillmartha

[TwoStep2888]

Martha was a good moment, I liked Martha

[chadizzy1]

Matt Reeves it is

http://comicbook.com/2017/02/11/matt...-batman-movie/

[TwoStep2888]

hmm, ok...

[junior94]

yea but the thing I was a bit worried about, on one hand they were saying we're not totally settled on the director yet, but when we do and he comes in he probably may very well insult on doing a full page 1 rewrite, a totally fresh start. So as in like totally different story and villains.
But then also bout the same time Affleck was saying Chris Terrio handed in a script he and the other main exec were really happy with.

well, and I guess when you consider there was photos that broke just in last day or two of Joe Mangiello all hyped up in his training for Deathstroke, certain common sense says the studio wouldn't have allowed that be out there if there really was a significant chance the script was changing so much that his villain wouldn't even be included anymore. Though in all fairness, I also started to wonder, could Chris Terrio possibly be just a 1 hit wonder? I mean I looked up his sheet, yea Argo was fantastic, won the oscar for it, but he hasn't really done much else, that was his first major produced screenplay. And if he supposedly did a heavy rewrite on BvS, that discourages him a bit for me in my book.

lastly on a side note (cause they talked about how the Joker might still wind up in this Batman film, even if not a huge role), I guess you can't possibly go back on something like this now, that you're all aboard the Jared Leto train... but with how disappointing he was in SS, I started thinking that maybe the best way at this point to truly find a good, even halfway possible "original" Joker is to cast A COMPLETE UNKNOWN in the role.

[chadizzy1]

Saw Lego Batman today. It was hilarious.

It's like Gob from Arrested Development as Batman, basically every Batman villain (even the Z grade ones), a whole bunch of Easter eggs (I love all the Bat66 references), some canon, and some completely non-canon stuff. It's a big movie with a lot going on, but it's really good.

Just don't go into expecting complete accuracy.

[fridge112887]

Possible alternatives if it's not Reeves (which it probably will be):

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/batma...ectors-a148899

[sheldonlevene]

Originally Posted by fridge112887

Possible alternatives if it's not Reeves (which it probably will be):

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/batma...ectors-a148899

Scott - while interesting, seems as longshot as Fincher.

[fridge112887]

Originally Posted by sheldonlevene

Scott - while interesting, seems as longshot as Fincher.

Scott has as good a shot as Michael Bay

[junior94]

so John Campea from Collider, who I've always generally liked although now I've just learned he apparently thinks Die Hard With A Vengeance is a better film than Die Hard... but anyway, he says this with the giant caveat that he has been completely burned on information like this in the past, where he got it totally wrong. But I just saw video of him claiming that he's heard from 3 different people supposedly close enough to the situation that would know that not only has Affleck obviously departed the directors chair, but he desperately wants out of even playing Batman completely. that Justice League would already be his final time in the character.

[chadizzy1]

Originally Posted by junior94

so John Campea from Collider, who I've always generally liked although now I've just learned he apparently thinks Die Hard With A Vengeance is a better film than Die Hard... but anyway, he says this with the giant caveat that he has been completely burned on information like this in the past, where he got it totally wrong. But I just saw video of him claiming that he's heard from 3 different people supposedly close enough to the situation that would know that not only has Affleck obviously departed the directors chair, but he desperately wants out of even playing Batman completely. that Justice League would already be his final time in the character.

I had such high hopes for the DC movie universe and it's turning into a disaster. I guess we'll see it rebooted again in a few years.

[junior94]

Originally Posted by chadizzy1

I had such high hopes for the DC movie universe and it's turning into a disaster. I guess we'll see it rebooted again in a few years.

well it's funny you say that, cause of one of the other viewer questions submitted during the same show. Granted, all the panel people noted this was ultimately unlikely, but especially if the "Affleck wants out as Batman" rumor is true, the viewer posited that what if the complete page 1-rewrite on The Flash movie is because they're already going to use time travel in it to basically reboot the DC universe, and make some significant changes.

[chadizzy1]

Originally Posted by junior94

well it's funny you say that, cause of one of the other viewer questions submitted during the same show. Granted, all the panel people noted this was ultimately unlikely, but especially if the "Affleck wants out as Batman" rumor is true, the viewer posited that what if the complete page 1-rewrite on The Flash movie is because they're already going to use time travel in it to basically reboot the DC universe, and make some significant changes.

That could work. But if they reboot it with the same leadership and direction, there's no point. They need to hand the whole movie universe off to Berlanti & Company (Andrew Kreisberg and Marc Guggenheim) and let them handle it. Because it's turning into a disaster. And I'm a DC

[TwoStep2888]

Originally Posted by chadizzy1

That could work. But if they reboot it with the same leadership and direction, there's no point. They need to hand the whole movie universe off to Berlanti & Company (Andrew Kreisberg and Marc Guggenheim) and let them handle it. Because it's turning into a disaster. And I'm a DC

nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnope

[junior94]

^^^ couldn't agree more. Berlanti is clearly already stretched way too thin. The only one of those shows I'm interested in watching, the Flash, season 3's kinda starting to wear on me, I'm on like episode 7 or 8 and feel less enthusiastic about continuing on each time. Plus I wanna slap the motherfucking shit out of Wally West, mother of god is he a whiny bitch.

[TwoStep2888]

I tried watching Arrow and Flash and both were so bad and cheesy (and not a good kind of cheese) that I turned them off, bad TV, no thanks

[sheldonlevene]

Originally Posted by DMBzilla

I hate when people dismiss others' valid opinions with shit like this.

I don't care that it was dark, or that it wasn't conventional. I like plenty of films with those elements. I didn't like the fact that the movie was a mess with a thrown together story that wasted characters unnecessarily and had multiple laugh out loud moments of stupidity.

Suicide Squad was also bad apparently (still haven't seen it) and now The Batman is in shambles and Flash is getting a rewrite already? Par for the course at this point.

Also for the record...I'm not dismissing anyone's valid opinions. I think BvS was a failure, irrespective of BO returns, as it relates to the general audience.

I have read a lot of comics - was thrilled with the casting of BA after the first footage, loved the comic accurate physical representations of the characters and enjoyed seeing them on screen together for the first time - especially in a DKR style context.

I fully understand the missteps in the tone and story telling issues with the theatrical release. I think that's a valid argument and wouldn't consider my view to be mainstream. That said I, similarly, think my opinion is valid from the perspective of someone that likes the DC properties and wants a mature DCEU, and as a result, still have cautious optimism for the rest of the franchise if they can right the ship.

[M. Steng]

Originally Posted by chadizzy1

That could work. But if they reboot it with the same leadership and direction, there's no point. They need to hand the whole movie universe off to Berlanti & Company (Andrew Kreisberg and Marc Guggenheim) and let them handle it. Because it's turning into a disaster. And I'm a DC

This is borderline delusional. The CW DC Universe STINKS.

[KevinTH]

Yikes. No way do I want to see anyone from the CW DC Universe anywhere near the DC movies. Those shows are bad enough as they are that we don't need them cheesing up these movies.

I'm probably somewhere near Sheldon's mindset. I loved MoS and BvS, but I'm not blind to some of the shortcomings. Do I think BvS was deserving of all the flack it got? No, but I do see some of the things that people took issue with. For instance, I get how some didn't like the "Martha" moment, but for me it worked. With that said, I think Suicide Squad sucked. That coupled with early reports of Wonder Woman being a mess, directors and writers dropping from the films have me a little nervous. Clearly they tried to lighten things up after BvS, but that worked out terribly for Suicide Squad. Was Wonder Woman still in production when BvS came out? Just curious if that could have been given the same treatment as Suicide Squad. If so, then it seems like Justice League might be the first fully made DC movie that hasn't been adjusted to fit the new lighter direction.

[KevinTH]

I really hope this isn't true.

http://comicbook.com/dc/2017/02/14/b...itting-batman/

If he ends up dropping out somehow, then I'm out. And if he does drop out, then DC needs to scrap this whole thing, take a break and formulate a real plan.

[M. Steng]

Originally Posted by KevinTH

I really hope this isn't true.

http://comicbook.com/dc/2017/02/14/b...itting-batman/

If he ends up dropping out somehow, then I'm out. And if he does drop out, then DC needs to scrap this whole thing, take a break and formulate a real plan.

Correction: if he ends up dropping out, then DC needs to scrap this whole thing, take a break, and then make the script we'll submit based on our Court of Owls idea.

[sheldonlevene]

Originally Posted by KevinTH

I really hope this isn't true.

http://comicbook.com/dc/2017/02/14/b...itting-batman/

If he ends up dropping out somehow, then I'm out. And if he does drop out, then DC needs to scrap this whole thing, take a break and formulate a real plan.

Originally Posted by M. Steng

Correction: if he ends up dropping out, then DC needs to scrap this whole thing, take a break, and then make the script we'll submit based on our Court of Owls idea.

This is still all based off that Colider "movie talk" youtube video from yesterday. People are just running with it b/c it's a click driver.

WW and JL are the real tests for if Batman solo gets made. If they both suck and do we financially (7-800 M for WW and 900-1.2 B for Justice League) I firmly believe he will stick around.

If they WW flops and JL is a commercial and critical success - he'll stay.

If they both flop. He's out. All this speculation is crazy but I would wager the DCU is probably the most clickthroughs for the movieweb, cb.com, /film, collider etc. They're going to put out any "story" that will garner some attention.