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Old 11-18-2022, 11:01 PM   #1
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Is this the longest active touring period ever without Crash Into Me?

5 months since last play as of yesterday. Looks like about 50 shows without it. Quick review of DMB Almanac makes me think this is the longest they’ve gone without playing it.

I’m sure folks will disagree, but I feel Crash Into Me has a deeper stamp on pop culture than any other DMB song. Even more than Ants.
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    Re: Is this the longest active touring period ever without Crash Into Me?

    it's become somewhat rare the past couple of years, which is strange to me
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    Old 11-18-2022, 11:05 PM   #3
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    it's become somewhat rare the past couple of years, which is strange to me
    Right. Seems like they played it at every venue in 2016, which made it the highlight of show for casual fans. How do you skip your biggest hit for so long? (I know it isnít highest charting hit)
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    Old 11-18-2022, 11:06 PM   #4
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    Re: Is this the longest active touring period ever without Crash Into Me?

    People here would complain "Not another Crash!"
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    Old 11-18-2022, 11:39 PM   #5
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    Re: Is this the longest active touring period ever without Crash Into Me?

    Dave thinks he’s a perv now that he has kids would be my guess. I also think this logic is wonky, with Shake Me in heavy rotation last year and a few others.

    Wish it was played more but glad I got it last year.
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    Old 11-18-2022, 11:49 PM   #6
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    Dave thinks heís a perv now that he has kids would be my guess. I also think this logic is wonky, with Shake Me in heavy rotation last year and a few others.

    Wish it was played more but glad I got it last year.
    Now that he has kids?? His twins are in their 20s, lol.
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    Old 11-19-2022, 12:46 AM   #7
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    Re: Is this the longest active touring period ever without Crash Into Me?

    i dont think dave cares about crash into me's place in pop culture or the band's history. i'm pretty sure he, at one point, said that crash is the song they'll be remembered for but it should be ants instead. considering that most acts who have been around this long have songs that they HAVE to play every show (think if billy joel doesn't play piano man, the crowd would riot) but there's a 60% chance of NOT hearing one of DMB's most popular songs at a show, i don't really see crash going missing as an issue or anything all that noteworthy. every song besides ants has had at least one period where it pretty much disappeared from sets.
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    Old 11-19-2022, 01:06 AM   #8
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    Now that he has kids?? His twins are in their 20s, lol.
    Dude changes the lyrics to the end the last few times I heard it, and always prefaces Say Goodbye by saying itís a bad idea. Just something I noticed is all.
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    Old 11-19-2022, 02:48 AM   #9
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    Re: Is this the longest active touring period ever without Crash Into Me?

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    Dave thinks heís a perv now that he has kids would be my guess. I also think this logic is wonky, with Shake Me in heavy rotation last year and a few others.

    Wish it was played more but glad I got it last year.
    He used to talk about masterbating at shows. Said he did it 2-3 times a day to keep an even keel. Wonder what his family thinks about all that.
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    Old 11-19-2022, 04:03 AM   #10
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    Re: Is this the longest active touring period ever without Crash Into Me?

    I would take it at every show. Studio is one of my favorite things this band has done. Blows You and Me out of the water as far as radio singles casuals know
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    Old 11-19-2022, 11:38 AM   #11
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    Re: Is this the longest active touring period ever without Crash Into Me?

    Last time I saw it was 2016 at the Gorge and I do the Gorge weekend every year. Itís so rare to me, I actually stay and watch while everyone goes to the bathroom.
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    Old 11-19-2022, 11:41 AM   #12
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    Last time I saw it was 2016 at the Gorge and I do the Gorge weekend every year. Itís so rare to me, I actually stay and watch while everyone goes to the bathroom.
    Was played in 2021 at the Gorge.
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    Old 11-19-2022, 11:44 AM   #13
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    Guess I was insinuating full band but Iím glad the police was quick to respond to the scene of the crime.
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    Old 11-19-2022, 11:50 AM   #14
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    Guess I was insinuating full band but Iím glad the police was quick to respond to the scene of the crime.
    You didn't insinuate anything, lol
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    Old 11-19-2022, 12:07 PM   #15
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    Re: Is this the longest active touring period ever without Crash Into Me?

    Although I disagree with the idea that "everyone goes to the bathroom" during Crash at the Gorge, it is interesting to look at how often it's been played there.

    1996-2012
    Played 17 times (only missed year was 2003, which was a 2-night stand)

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    Played 3 times

    Even when Dave is (usually) trying not to repeat songs over a 3-day weekend, Crash is still not really on his radar.

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    Old 11-19-2022, 03:03 PM   #16
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    Re: Is this the longest active touring period ever without Crash Into Me?

    Nothing wrong with it taking a break. I recall WWYS took a break in 97 and 98
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    Old 11-20-2022, 12:27 AM   #17
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    Re: Is this the longest active touring period ever without Crash Into Me?

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    People here would complain "Not another Crash!"
    This site hasn't complained about Crash Into Me since Everyday was released.
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    Old 11-20-2022, 07:46 PM   #18
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    This thread is making me feel like Principal Skinner wondering if he's old and out of touch...
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    Old 11-20-2022, 08:26 PM   #19
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    Re: Is this the longest active touring period ever without Crash Into Me?

    I’ll take Crash Into Me at every show under one condition. It’s like the LT 7 version.
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    Old 11-20-2022, 09:19 PM   #20
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    Re: Is this the longest active touring period ever without Crash Into Me?

    Cscott and I talked about this briefly before Hartford this year…

    The band should be playing a few hits at every show. The hardcores still appreciate these tunes and the casual fans won’t leave disappointed. The Avetts do this well, where they play their most popular songs, the closest things they have to “hits” at almost every show, but still play another 18-20 songs each night, changing up their sets every night. It’s really not that hard.

    At this point Dave should just be using some software program to generate sets and drop/swap whatever tunes he doesn’t think he can handle that night. Fill 3-4 slots with hits each not, pull Bayou from the rotation, and get some input from the band. It would do a more equitable job of letting fans hear more and different tunes.
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    Laughable it’s never played
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    Old 11-21-2022, 02:02 AM   #22
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    Cscott and I talked about this briefly before Hartford this yearÖ

    The band should be playing a few hits at every show. The hardcores still appreciate these tunes and the casual fans wonít leave disappointed. The Avetts do this well, where they play their most popular songs, the closest things they have to ďhitsĒ at almost every show, but still play another 18-20 songs each night, changing up their sets every night. Itís really not that hard.

    At this point Dave should just be using some software program to generate sets and drop/swap whatever tunes he doesnít think he can handle that night. Fill 3-4 slots with hits each not, pull Bayou from the rotation, and get some input from the band. It would do a more equitable job of letting fans hear more and different tunes.

    they DO play "hits" regularly. they're often the songs that people here complain about being played too much. jimi thing was a single back in the day. so was that girl is you.

    here is every song that they have release as a single and how many plays they had this summer, including a few that were supposed to be singles but weren't. what from this list would you call a "hit" and what ones are supposed to be played more? if anything, playing more "hits" like dreamgirl and i did it would only make the sets worse.

    WWYS 13
    Jimi 19
    Typical 3
    Ants 21
    Satellite 13
    Too Much 10
    SMTS 10
    Crash 2
    Two Step 23
    Billies 9
    DDTW 20
    Stay 5
    Crush 20
    Rapunzel 13
    I Did It 0
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    Grey Street 23
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    Everybody Wake Up 0
    Smooth Rider 0
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    Why I Am 15
    You And Me 20
    Mercy 0
    If Only 4
    Samurai Cop 14
    That Girl Is You 11
    Again and Again 4
    (When The World Ends 21)
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    Old 11-21-2022, 12:09 PM   #23
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    Singles do not instantly equal hits.

    Ants, billies, crash, DDtW, y&m, SMTS, etc. are songs that casual fans know & hope to hear. The band could/should play 4 of these a night and still have a huge amount of flexibility w/ the rest of the set. I’m talking each of them getting played during at least half of the shows…every other night or so. I lack enthusiasm for most of these songs, but I’m not the only one at a show & I’m good w/ any artist appeasing the casual fan to an extent.

    Per billboard, these are dmb’s biggest hits, the Hot 100 sightings:

    https://www.billboard.com/artist/dav...t-history/hsi/

    And several of these are played, but most are not being played at at least half the shows, some are rare, others need to be liberated if we want to hear them again. Again most bands play their biggest hits almost every night of the tour, DMB might play some of them for almost half of the dates. It’s like the sets are better because they play them less. I’ll take most hits over Bayou and several other songs that we’ve been hear ad nauseous for the last few tours.
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    Crash Into Me is one of their best songs. LT7 is beyond beautiful.
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    Singles do not instantly equal hits.

    Ants, billies, crash, DDtW, y&m, SMTS, etc. are songs that casual fans know & hope to hear. The band could/should play 4 of these a night and still have a huge amount of flexibility w/ the rest of the set. Iím talking each of them getting played during at least half of the showsÖevery other night or so. I lack enthusiasm for most of these songs, but Iím not the only one at a show & Iím good w/ any artist appeasing the casual fan to an extent.

    Per billboard, these are dmbís biggest hits, the Hot 100 sightings:

    https://www.billboard.com/artist/dav...t-history/hsi/

    And several of these are played, but most are not being played at at least half the shows, some are rare, others need to be liberated if we want to hear them again. Again most bands play their biggest hits almost every night of the tour, DMB might play some of them for almost half of the dates. Itís like the sets are better because they play them less. Iíll take most hits over Bayou and several other songs that weíve been hear ad nauseous for the last few tours.

    there are 32 official singles, with 3 other would-haves, plus the some devil singles that i forgot to add. if you want them played every other night, that means 18 out of ~20 songs are going to be from a group of ~36 songs. people already complain about sets being repetitive, this would be MUCH worse.

    they already play a ton of these songs regularly. Dayton had 5 singles in a row to start the show, 10 total singles, plus WATM which will be a single. chicago had 8. minneapolis had 7. omaha had 7. salt lake had 8. even MSG had 8 and 7. during the summer tour, 12 of the 20 most played songs were singles. they don't need to focus on playing any of the singles any more than they already do. and some of the other songs on the list were warehouse, 41, and nancies, which are arguably more popular with the crowd than most of the singles.

    if they just focused on playing their singles and their live "hits" that aren't singles like warehouse and 41, they would play like 50 songs a tour and thats it. every show would feel like a copy of the previous.
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    Old 11-23-2022, 10:16 AM   #26
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    Singles are just the songs an artist/mgmt want to feature with the hope of becoming popular, but do NOT instantly = hits.

    The band has about 10 hits that should get played during at least half the shows, in rotation of about four per show. Hope that clarifies things. Cheers.
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    People here would complain "Not another Crash!"
    Nobody here complains about crash, straw man.
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    it would crack me up so much and make me laugh if they honestly stopped playing the song cause of fears that that song is being perceived by the woke as being about non-consensual sexual acts
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