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Old 11-20-2007, 11:31 AM   #31
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Re: ***Official Green Bay Packers Thread***

I generally agree with the idea that Randy would still be a cancer in just about any other situation than the one he's in. He'll look like the world's greatest teammate with NE because they're winning and he's getting the attention he wants and putting up numbers. He could be the best teammate in history indefinitely with that team if they kept winning. But if he were on a loser he'd be a bitch like he was with the Vikes. He is, in short, a child.

However, with GB, I think he would have had at least one good season as long as the team was in the playoff hunt because he wanted to stick it to the vikes and wanted to play in GB. With GB 9-1, thats not a worry. Without Moss, they're still one of a few teams in the NFC who can realistically set their expectations at getting to the Super Bowl, but most would say it'd be a miracle if they could beat NE in the Super Bowl. Now, put Randy on GB and they'd be favored over everyone including NE, IMO. If they get to the SB and lose (with, of course, Moss going crazy on them as he's always done) I dont think passing on Moss can be considered a good move.

All that's not to say that the GM should have forseen this and that passing on Randy was a mistake at the time, but I think I would disagree with declaring that passing on Moss was a good move.
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    Re: ***Official Green Bay Packers Thread***

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    I generally agree with the idea that Randy would still be a cancer in just about any other situation than the one he's in. He'll look like the world's greatest teammate with NE because they're winning and he's getting the attention he wants and putting up numbers. He could be the best teammate in history indefinitely with that team if they kept winning. But if he were on a loser he'd be a bitch like he was with the Vikes. He is, in short, a child.

    However, with GB, I think he would have had at least one good season as long as the team was in the playoff hunt because he wanted to stick it to the vikes and wanted to play in GB. With GB 9-1, thats not a worry. Without Moss, they're still one of a few teams in the NFC who can realistically set their expectations at getting to the Super Bowl, but most would say it'd be a miracle if they could beat NE in the Super Bowl. Now, put Randy on GB and they'd be favored over everyone including NE, IMO. If they get to the SB and lose (with, of course, Moss going crazy on them as he's always done) I dont think passing on Moss can be considered a good move.

    All that's not to say that the GM should have forseen this and that passing on Randy was a mistake at the time, but I think I would disagree with declaring that passing on Moss was a good move.
    Moss is an unmistakable talent, But can you imagine the bad influence he'd have on the Packers young receivers?

    They are much better learning from a professional like Donald Driver.
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    Old 11-20-2007, 12:34 PM   #33
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    Re: ***Official Green Bay Packers Thread***

    I dont know - I think Brett's aura or ego or leadership or what have you may have over-powered whatever Moss' attitude was.
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    Old 11-20-2007, 12:44 PM   #34
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    Re: ***Official Green Bay Packers Thread***

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    I dont know - I think Brett's aura or ego or leadership or what have you may have over-powered whatever Moss' attitude was.
    You may be right, but I think they would have been better served if they pushed harder to get their hands on Michael Turner last offseason. I think San Diego wanted a first rounder for him.

    Imagine GB with an effective running game.....
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    Old 11-20-2007, 12:46 PM   #35
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    I still cant forgive this...

    http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/arc...een_bay_crowd/
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    Old 11-20-2007, 12:57 PM   #36
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    whaddaya mean you cant forgive it? I thought that was phenomenal. Stupid and childish and all that, but who cares?
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    Old 11-20-2007, 02:20 PM   #37
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    Re: ***Official Green Bay Packers Thread***

    Packers being investigated for supposed "bounties" paid to defense:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21902552/

    This has been going on in football for as long as I can remember. It's not like they are trying to injure anyone. I guess every team needs a scandal.
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    Old 11-20-2007, 02:23 PM   #38
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    Packers being investigated for supposed "bounties" paid to defense:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21902552/

    This has been going on in football for as long as I can remember. It's not like they are trying to injure anyone. I guess every team needs a scandal.
    I am shocked it took all day for that story to hit the forums here... I don't know as long as the team isn't the one offering the "bounties" I don't really have a problem with it... if the guys on the team are just goofing around trying to motivate each other and competitive with each other, BFD
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    Old 11-20-2007, 03:06 PM   #39
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    Re: ***Official Green Bay Packers Thread***

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    I am shocked it took all day for that story to hit the forums here... I don't know as long as the team isn't the one offering the "bounties" I don't really have a problem with it... if the guys on the team are just goofing around trying to motivate each other and competitive with each other, BFD
    Sorry, but I'm a little slow.....
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    Old 11-22-2007, 07:25 AM   #40
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    Re: ***Official Green Bay Packers Thread***

    Packers/Lions in 2 hours! I'll be frying a turkey starting halftime!! Happy turkey day packers fans!
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    Old 11-22-2007, 08:53 AM   #41
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    Packers/Lions in 2 hours! I'll be frying a turkey starting halftime!! Happy turkey day packers fans!
    I agree. Happy Thanksgiving to all Packers fans!
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    Old 11-22-2007, 08:58 AM   #42
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    Packers being investigated for supposed "bounties" paid to defense:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21902552/

    This has been going on in football for as long as I can remember. It's not like they are trying to injure anyone. I guess every team needs a scandal.
    It is against the rules.....but really, who cares.

    Although the league does have to nip it in the butt, it can't get out of hand.
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    Old 11-22-2007, 09:18 AM   #43
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    I don't see them doing a piece on Fox with all those legends for Tom Brady like that.

    That was cool.
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    Old 11-22-2007, 12:58 PM   #44
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    Really solid performance today. The defense kind of sputtered there in the 4th quarter, but Favre was once again amazing and Grant had another solid game. I hated to see Woodson, KGB, and Driver get hurt though.


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    Old 11-22-2007, 01:19 PM   #45
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    What's the status on Woodson, KGB, and Driver? Anything serious, or will be ok to play next week in Dallas?
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    Old 11-22-2007, 01:22 PM   #46
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    Old 11-22-2007, 01:26 PM   #47
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    What's the status on Woodson, KGB, and Driver? Anything serious, or will be ok to play next week in Dallas?
    DD looked like he'd be fine for next week, KGB's x-rays on his ankle came back negative, and then i didn't hear anything else about Woodson.

    Good game today, favre was unreal. everyone played great today. bring on the cowboys
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    Old 11-22-2007, 01:28 PM   #48
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    DD looked like he'd be fine for next week, KGB's x-rays on his ankle came back negative, and then i didn't hear anything else about Woodson.
    Yeah, Woodson was in street clothes during the 2nd Half. Other than that, I don't know anything.
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    I wish the pack had finished a little stronger. Went on a 34-6 scoring run starting the end of the 1st quarter, but I would have liked the Pack not let up at the end. Good game though.
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    Old 11-22-2007, 02:41 PM   #50
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    What's the status on Woodson, KGB, and Driver? Anything serious, or will be ok to play next week in Dallas?
    Nothing on the local channels after the game. Probably nothing too serious. If they something I'll post it.
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    Old 11-22-2007, 02:55 PM   #51
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    Driver returned to the game. The others I haven't heard anything about yet.
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    Old 11-24-2007, 10:34 AM   #52
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    I kind of like that everyone (ESPN) is all over the Cowboys nuts....puts GB somewhat under the radar if that makes any sense. Can't wait until thursday. I hope GB beats them good and T.O. self destructs and blames Romo. I will be very happy if that happens
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    I kind of like that everyone (ESPN) is all over the Cowboys nuts....puts GB somewhat under the radar if that makes any sense. Can't wait until thursday. I hope GB beats them good and T.O. self destructs and blames Romo. I will be very happy if that happens
    It will be a great game. The Pack will miss Jolly and Cole but everyone else should be good to go.
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    Old 11-24-2007, 10:54 AM   #54
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    I kind of like that everyone (ESPN) is all over the Cowboys nuts....puts GB somewhat under the radar if that makes any sense. Can't wait until thursday. I hope GB beats them good and T.O. self destructs and blames Romo. I will be very happy if that happens
    why would TO blow up on Romo? wouldnt that of happened last year or against hte patriots?

    get off TOs jock strap.
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    Driver returned to the game. The others I haven't heard anything about yet.
    I think everyone that was hurt last game is listed as probable for the Dallas game
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    lots of injuries for this game, makes me more nervous about the outcome
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    lots of injuries for this game, makes me more nervous about the outcome
    Even if they do lose, it's not the end of the world. As long as they get healthy by the playoffs they'll be fine.
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    lots of injuries for this game, makes me more nervous about the outcome
    We'll be okay, Woodson is a competitor, no way he misses this game. Same with Driver. Collins could be back, Bubba could be back(whether that's good or bad.) Losing KGB for one game wouldn't be the worse thing, seeing as D-line is by far our deepest position.
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    We'll be okay, Woodson is a competitor, no way he misses this game. Same with Driver. Collins could be back, Bubba could be back(whether that's good or bad.) Losing KGB for one game wouldn't be the worse thing, seeing as D-line is by far our deepest position.
    The D-line is not that deep. Johnny Jolly is still going to be out and they just put Colin Cole on the IR. Half of their nose tackles are gone.
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    This thread sucks!

    -bitter Bears fan

    But seriously, enjoy it while it lasts, once Farve is gone you'll be in the hell that I'm in with a team with no QB.
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