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Old 07-31-2019, 08:05 AM   #61
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Re: LT 48 (8/25/94) and LT 49 (D&T 6/18/19)

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LT47, which was released in April, was from 97 and I have a strong feeling LT50 isn't going to be a post-Boyd show.
Look at the stats... One pre-2018 show out of how many in the last few years?

Compare that stat to pre-2018 releases.
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    Re: LT 48 (8/25/94) and LT 49 (D&T 6/18/19)

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    What stands out about it

    I love Tim's playing at the beginning of it, Dave's vocals couldn't be more on point and had a slightly different ending than other versions, it's probably my favorite D&T version. When you say every D&T DDTW is the same that isn't really accurate at all, there have been different song intros throughout the years whether it be something like The Bell (RC '03) or Still Water or in this case Tim playing more, also when and where Dave chooses to belt or sing falsetto and overall intensity.
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    Old 07-31-2019, 08:12 AM   #63
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    CMAC 7/6/10 is a lot better IMO
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    10 had some amazing performances, DDTW is incredible
    Agreed with there ^

    I was at that 2010 show. A lot of BW, but great performances. An excellent LIOG -> a full Blue Water, plus an IBYU and double encore. Also the impromptu Seven [partial] was funny as hell to watch unfold.

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    Lots of shitty songs in that set. Ddtw Dave and Tim all sound the same
    Generally, year, but the outro was extended for that show in '10. Great emotion, it's a favorite performance of that song for me.

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    Imagine no 2017 D&T show because songs like Bismarck and death on the high seas were relatively common and did not make it onto come tomorrow.
    That wasn't a factor, based on what was being considered from '17 (to my understanding).
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    Old 07-31-2019, 08:13 AM   #64
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    Will for sure illegally download these
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    Look at the stats... One pre-2018 show out of how many in the last few years?

    Compare that stat to pre-2018 releases.

    LT 45 was a pre-2018 show released after he'd been exiled.
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    Look at the stats... One pre-2018 show out of how many in the last few years?

    Compare that stat to pre-2018 releases.
    Since LT40 was released, there is ONE 2018 show in there. 5 of the last 6 full band shows all have Boyd. I also know for a fact they're not ignoring Boyd releases and that Cscottrun was 100% joking.
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    Old 07-31-2019, 08:44 AM   #67
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    Since LT40 was released, there is ONE 2018 show in there. 5 of the last 6 full band shows all have Boyd. I also know for a fact they're not ignoring Boyd releases and that Cscottrun was 100% joking.
    It's pretty obvious, but Ants can keep drinking the kool-aid.

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    Old 07-31-2019, 08:52 AM   #68
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    It's pretty obvious, but Ants can keep drinking the kool-aid.

    I'm not taking a side either way.
    You can dismiss what I'm saying, that's fine, but Boyd isn't a factor in choosing releases. LT50 should clear that up.
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    Why would management care about Boyd's predicament in choosing any future release with him in it? The case was settled out of court anyway. I don't think anyone cares that a small portion of their purchase could be going to Boyd's royalties (I don't know if that's true or not either), as long as we continue to get LTs from the band's golden years.
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    I hope it’s like LT 6 Fenway where they release both nights at a cool venue. And I’d love to know if they have the copyrights or whatever to release the Woodstock set. That show is a favorite of mine
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    I hope it’s like LT 6 Fenway where they release both nights at a cool venue. And I’d love to know if they have the copyrights or whatever to release the Woodstock set. That show is a favorite of mine
    That would be gnarly if they chose a full weekend from 2018-2019 at a venue and released both audio and video.....reason I say 2018-2019 is have to imagine as some have said that they stick to the current band. If you look at releases in the past year since buddy joined, you’ve got 3 full shows from the current band (LT 46, the warehouse warmup, and Charlottesville). Have to imagine with this being the big 50th live trax that they’d use it as an opportunity to highlight the current band....
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    I hope it’s like LT 6 Fenway where they release both nights at a cool venue.

    More venue based releases. Noted.
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    Why would management care about Boyd's predicament in choosing any future release with him in it? The case was settled out of court anyway. I don't think anyone cares that a small portion of their purchase could be going to Boyd's royalties (I don't know if that's true or not either), as long as we continue to get LTs from the band's golden years.

    It's just someone trolling.
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    It's been hinted at by people in the know that LT 50 will be a show with Boyd.

    So, my guess is either MSG 12/3/98 or 12/7/98 (N1 of Worcester, MA 2 night stand; LT 1 was N2).
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    It's just someone trolling.
    Not trolling, just stating an opinion. Like I said, I'm not on either side, I'm a DMB fan for life.

    I encourage everyone to think outside of what they've been told, not just here. Cynicism is my greatest gift. Sarcasm is a close second.
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    Old 07-31-2019, 12:53 PM   #76
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    Not trolling, just stating an opinion. Like I said, I'm not on either side, I'm a DMB fan for life.

    I encourage everyone to think outside of what they've been told, not just here. Cynicism is my greatest gift. Sarcasm is a close second.
    Again, why would management go out of their way to stiff Boyd out of any possible royalties. The case is settled and most people don’t care what actually went down between the two parties.
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    The majority of Live Trax released after Boyd's departure have included Boyd.
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    I had been hearing about a '17 D&T show, but I guess this jumped the line
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    That wasn't a factor, based on what was being considered from '17 (to my understanding).
    Hmm.. I wonder If they will still consider releasing a 2017 show at some point. I can't believe they didn't capitalize on the U.S. Dave & Tim tour with a live release. Seems weird that they decided to wait 3+ years to do so.
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    How's Dave's voice on the '19 show?
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    Yawn. I want Jeff, Rashawn, and Carter
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    Live Trax 48
    D&T - Birchmere 8/25/94
    “This intimate acoustic performance from The Birchmere, in Alexandria, VA shows us a very young Dave Matthews and Tim Reynolds showcasing what are relatively new tunes for 1994. As the two settle in, Dave begins to share more info about the songs and this show becomes that much more intimate. Fans will know every song in this set, but we think it’ll all sound fresh!”

    1.Pay For What You Get
    2.One Sweet World
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    “June 18, 2019, Dave Matthews and Tim Reynolds played to a grateful crowd at Constellation Brands–Marvin Sands Performing Arts Center, as a one off tucked in between full band shows this summer. As usual this intimate setting provides a chance to hear the songs you know and love stripped down and reinterpreted, and gives listeners a glimpse into Tim’s solo compositions. ”

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    What a fantastic mix of songs, for D&T. I only wish it came with a Blu Ray.
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    too bad they don't have package options for both shows and shirts for example
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    Def. getting CMAC, I was there, excellent D&T show.
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    How's Dave's voice on the '19 show?
    A tape for this show has never surfaced. I was there though and thought his voice sounded fantastic. I watched a few videos on youtube and he sounded great on those as well.
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    I'll be getting CMAC as well, no interest in the other show
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    The majority of Live Trax released after Boyd's departure have included Boyd.
    I stand corrected.

    I think it is great that they are doing the Friday Night concert series for the past two years. Maybe that, in combination with the Rhino's Choice formed my opinion.

    Either way, I'm glad to have the music.
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    The majority of Live Trax released after Boyd's departure have included Boyd.
    But that's not true. Only 45 & 47 have had Boyd, and I'm pretty sure LT45 was already in the mixing process when Boyd got the boot, so they weren't going to not release it at that point. LT46 doesn't have Boyd and now here's 2 more that don't... If LT50 is a show with Boyd, then that would make it an even 50/50 split, which is about what I would expect going forward from here.

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    But that's not true. Only 45 & 47 have had Boyd. 46 doesn't and now here's 2 more that don't... If LT50 is a show with Boyd, then that would make it an even 50/50 split, which is about what I would expect going forward from here.
    There have been 5 LTs released since his departure, 3 full band and now 2 D&T. Boyd was featured on the majority of the full band shows released. They're not releasing D&T shows to avoid Boyd, people want multi-tracked D&T shows as well.

    Again, Boyd is NOT a determining factor on what gets released.
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    The majority of Live Trax released after Boyd's departure have included Boyd.

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    But that's not true. Only 45 & 47 have had Boyd

    There's only been 3 LTs released since Boyds departure. As you've stated, 3 of them had Boyd. That's the majority.
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    I’ll take a CMAC show any day of the week!
    From 2016 on they have had some great shows there.
    ‘16 Stone opener and LiOG , Ben the Sax guy in ‘18 for 41/Billies and I got a set list.
    ‘17 had Halloween/Twostep which I wasn’t expecting.
    Looking back, since ‘16 they’ve played 4 of my top 5 at each show.
    Always a great time.
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