Seven appreciation thread

[SmoothD41]

I enjoy it. Got overplayed for sure, but whatever.

[space_raven]

the music/time signature is what makes this song so good and fun. daves vocals are the sprinkles on top of the sundae.

[tyler3440]

Originally Posted by lilant420

Listen to the D&T show from Oakland, CA. Seven is yelled out to be played and Dave says "f*ck Seven, no one wants to hear that sh*t!"

About what time was this? Amazing

[lockman21]

Originally Posted by Bmwm3oz

I don’t know how to say this without coming across as a D bag, but I honestly believe that people who grew up playing music and still play an instrument have greater respect for complex songs, and as a result, might be more open to enjoying a song because of it.

I think you’ve got two crowds - the crowd that doesn’t know the difference between a 4/4 and a 7/8, and the crowd that understands measures, time sigs, general music theory/structure etc.

The two groups might judge music differently because of their understanding of music.

As an example, Rush is a band that gets crapped on by the general pop pretty often, but as someone who has played drums for 25 years, I consider Rush one of the most interesting bands to listen to. I don’t know if the songs are good or not, I just really like them because it’s fun to follow along and take in what they are doing.

Maybe that’s how I view Seven, I guess.

For the record, I've played guitar for over 20 years and have (what I would like to think) a very solid understanding of music theory.

It's still a bad song. Complexity does not inherently make it a good song. Funky time signatures don't inherently make it a good song. I can appreciate the musicianship displayed and still think it makes a hodgepodge of nonsense that doesn't equate to a good song.

[spider-man]

Good song that got overplayed

[Bmwm3oz]

Originally Posted by lockman21

For the record, I've played guitar for over 20 years and have (what I would like to think) a very solid understanding of music theory.

It's still a bad song. Complexity does not inherently make it a good song. Funky time signatures don't inherently make it a good song. I can appreciate the musicianship displayed and still think it makes a hodgepodge of nonsense that doesn't equate to a good song.

I don’t think I made the claim that complex = good. I believe I said complex = interesting, and maybe that’s why I listen to certain songs that aren’t necessarily good but I enjoy them because they offer something else.

For the record, I think drummers (and bassists) are more interested by funky time signatures than guitarists.

When I play You Never Know on guitar, I could give a F about the time sig - it isn’t interesting. But on the drums, it’s a blast. Just my 2 cents

[rain delay]

Seven is great. Never understood the hate for Big Whiskey. It was a massive improvement from Everyday and Stand Up.

[lilant420]

Originally Posted by tyler3440

About what time was this? Amazing

I tried to pull up the show audio and find it but it's not on the app. I promise you it happened, I was "that guy" front row that yelled it.

[twigs1201]

Awesome tune with a lot of live energy. It's been great to hear it evolve.

[space_raven]

I really like the subtlety of the keyboard/piano on the studio version. I think it's Rob cavallo, does anyone know for sure? Also, rois playing is funky asf, and Carter is super impressive as per usual

[haiku.warrior]

Originally Posted by space_raven

I really like the subtlety of the keyboard/piano on the studio version. I think it's Rob cavallo, does anyone know for sure? Also, rois playing is funky asf, and Carter is super impressive as per usual

According to the Wikipedia credits, there were at least 3 different keys/piano players-

Rob Cavallo - occasional organ and piano
Roger Joseph Manning Jr. - keyboards
Jamie Muhoberac - keyboards, organ

Doesn't specify who plays on what though.

[Bearclaw_]

Seven is great. Never understood the hate for Big Whiskey. It was a massive improvement from Everyday and Stand Up.

Agree to an extent. Definitely a step up from the previous two albums and I frequently listen to it. However, I can see the hate for it as SMLAM/FTWII/You & Me are some of the more rough songs in the catalogue. Most won’t agree fully but I think we might agree that those three get overplayed and that leads to exhaustion for fans, at least on this board.

Ironically those three are my most heard songs. So maybe I’m biased and angry. Ha.

[Cobo]

Originally Posted by twigs1201

Awesome tune with a lot of live energy. It's been great to hear it evolve.

To me every single version sounds the same. Other than adding a few bars to the Tim solo, I wouldn’t be able to tell a 2009 version from a 2019 version.

[ToySoldier#34]

Originally Posted by rain delay

Seven is great. Never understood the hate for Big Whiskey. It was a massive improvement from Everyday and Stand Up.

I definitely like Everyday more

[jmkratt]

To each their own but I’d be fine if I never hear Seven again.

[lilant420]

Originally Posted by jmkratt

To each their own but I’d be fine if I never hear Seven again.

It's going to be in your top 5 soon.

[jmkratt]

Originally Posted by lilant420

It's going to be in your top 5 soon.

Umm. No. It won't.

[lilant420]

Originally Posted by jmkratt

To each their own but I’d be fine if I never hear Seven again.

Originally Posted by jmkratt

Umm. No. It won't.

Your wish has been granted.

[jmkratt]

What are you talking about?

[bmt322]

I listened to the studio version today. I really like it a lot.

[haiku.warrior]

Originally Posted by bmt322

I listened to the studio version today. I really like it a lot.

the studio version is the best Seven imo.

[space_raven]

Originally Posted by bmt322

I listened to the studio version today. I really like it a lot.

Originally Posted by haiku.warrior

the studio version is the best Seven imo.

[monizzle145]

Seven is like Bayou in the sense the lyrics get mad annoying. The song would benefit by being a condensed 2 minute instrumental live