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Old 09-19-2017, 01:45 PM   #130831
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So it took SIX years for Auburn and Mizzou to play one another on their normal schedule?


the SEC is ridiculous.

And no, RecentlyJTRnumbers i dont need to hear your SEC justification, its stupid.
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ACC just as bad. FSU was at Heinz Field for Pitt's first year in the conference. Pitt doesn't play at FSU until 2020.
Similar things in the B1G. OSU played at Camp Randall last year but won't play there again until 2022, at the earliest. They'll also only play Wisconsin at home once during that stretch.
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    Similar things in the B1G. OSU played at Camp Randall last year but won't play there again until 2022, at the earliest. They'll also only play Wisconsin at home once during that stretch.
    I was just thinking about that too. B1G has certain inter-divisional pairings like Penn St and Nebraska that play every year. But other than that they just rotate through the other side.

    ACC the same way. Pitt and Syracuse are matched up for every year but other than that Pitt just rotates through the other side.

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    I don't think anyone doesn't understand the logistics behind it as much as they think it's just dumb in general for teams to be in the same conference but only play once every 5+ years or whatever.


    Yeah I get it and really can't think of a better way to do it. It's just weird.
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    Old 09-19-2017, 01:48 PM   #130833
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    Re: ** College Football Season **

    theres 7 teams in each SEC division. 12 games a season, 3 OOC games.. that means 2 from the other division each year, which should mean, at the absolute most, you should play each team in the SEC at least once over a 4 year period. The fact that a kid can go to Mizzou and not play Alabama all four years even though theyre in the same conference its moronic.

    I understand the cycle they used when the conference alignment happened, but 6-7 years not playing a school in your conference shouldnt happen.

    Maybe if the SEC didnt demand for their schools to play one of their OOC cupcakes in week 10 then it wouldnt be as much of an issue.
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    Old 09-19-2017, 01:51 PM   #130834
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    Similar things in the B1G. OSU played at Camp Randall last year but won't play there again until 2022, at the earliest. They'll also only play Wisconsin at home once during that stretch.
    but theyre still playing once at least. I dont expect a home and home for a conference that big every four years, that just logistically cant work.
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    Old 09-19-2017, 01:54 PM   #130835
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    theres 7 teams in each SEC division. 12 games a season, 3 OOC games.. that means 2 from the other division each year, which should mean, at the absolute most, you should play each team in the SEC at least once over a 4 year period. The fact that a kid can go to Mizzou and not play Alabama all four years even though theyre in the same conference its moronic.

    I understand the cycle they used when the conference alignment happened, but 6-7 years not playing a school in your conference shouldnt happen.

    Maybe if the SEC didnt demand for their schools to play one of their OOC cupcakes in week 10 then it wouldnt be as much of an issue.

    SEC only has an 8 game conference schedule, not 9. AND they all have a protected cross-division rival. So really, they get 1 rotating opponent from the other division.
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    Re: ** College Football Season **

    Since I'm sure some will make the argument, I think it'd be quite dumb for the SEC to go to a 9 game conference schedule unless it's necessary to boost SoS. At this point, it's not.
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    theres 7 teams in each SEC division. 12 games a season, 3 OOC games.. that means 2 from the other division each year, which should mean, at the absolute most, you should play each team in the SEC at least once over a 4 year period. The fact that a kid can go to Mizzou and not play Alabama all four years even though theyre in the same conference its moronic.

    I understand the cycle they used when the conference alignment happened, but 6-7 years not playing a school in your conference shouldnt happen.

    Maybe if the SEC didnt demand for their schools to play one of their OOC cupcakes in week 10 then it wouldnt be as much of an issue.
    I think you're missing the perma-rivals from the other side that a team plays every year.

    Each school plays a total of eight conference games, consisting of the other six teams in its division, one school from the other division on a rotating basis, and one school from the other division that it plays each year.

    Although, apparently the LSU AD share's your opinion.

    http://www.nola.com/lsu/index.ssf/20...ht_game_f.html
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    It's understandable for LSU and UF to both want to avoid each other more. I don't blame them, but 4 of the big 6 like the permanent rivals.
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    It's understandable for LSU and UF to both want to avoid each other more. I don't blame them, but 4 of the big 6 like the permanent rivals.
    Yeah I'd be mad if Alabama was our yearly game, but as long as I've been a fan it's been fun having Auburn as our yearly rival. We've played 120 times and the series is 57-55-8.
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    Re: ** College Football Season **

    Yeah, I get that a lot of the permanent rivals have a shared history of playing each other. Is there any way to divvy up the divisions that isn't East/West (since Mizzou and A&M kinda screwed that up anyways) that would keep everyone's scheduling desires of the teams they feel they "have to play" in the same division? I guess probably not.
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    Perfect example of why 4 divisions is better than 2, as you play less teams every year, which opens up the schedule.
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    Old 09-19-2017, 05:29 PM   #130842
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    Had the best seats ever (not coincidentally the most expensive) at tOSU for the OU game and I think it was the worst game I've ever seen at Ohio State. I've taken in some tough losses there, UT and USC come to mind, but at least those games went down to the wire. Ugh.

    I will also say this...Baker Mayfield is a prick for the whole flag thing. Yes, I get that Ohio State sings Carmen Ohio after games (home and away) but going over to your fans and celebrating, even on the road, is a lot different than his antics. Also, why apologize and then say you don't regret it? Guy doesn't even understand the words that come out of his mouth. What a douche.
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    If my math is correct, that means SEC teams (with the exception of their permanent crossover game), only visit the opposing stadiums of the teams in the other division once every 12 years?
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    Yeah, I get that a lot of the permanent rivals have a shared history of playing each other. Is there any way to divvy up the divisions that isn't East/West (since Mizzou and A&M kinda screwed that up anyways) that would keep everyone's scheduling desires of the teams they feel they "have to play" in the same division? I guess probably not.

    There has been rumblings (nothing too serious) recently about moving Auburn to the east and Mizzou to the west. The problem is that Alabama would have 2 teams in the east that should be on their schedule every year. Other than that, it looks like a solid move.
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    It's understandable for LSU and UF to both want to avoid each other more. I don't blame them, but 4 of the big 6 like the permanent rivals.
    Big 6? The SEC is protecting the interest of 4 of the 14 teams. Typical SEC bullshit.
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    Big 6? The SEC is protecting the interest of 4 of the 14 teams. Typical SEC bullshit.

    I didn't think it was news that the big 6 are the movers and shakers.
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    Had the best seats ever (not coincidentally the most expensive) at tOSU for the OU game and I think it was the worst game I've ever seen at Ohio State. I've taken in some tough losses there, UT and USC come to mind, but at least those games went down to the wire. Ugh.

    I will also say this...Baker Mayfield is a prick for the whole flag thing. Yes, I get that Ohio State sings Carmen Ohio after games (home and away) but going over to your fans and celebrating, even on the road, is a lot different than his antics. Also, why apologize and then say you don't regret it? Guy doesn't even understand the words that come out of his mouth. What a douche.
    Just go watch his arrest video if you need further recollection of his douchebaggery. 'I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING"

    And then his apology was something like I need to learn from this but I'm not changing who I am. Well homie, who you are is an idiot who runs from the cops for no reason so you should probably change that about yourself at a minimum.

    Dude rubs me the wrong way too. Seems like an Arrogant prick but he is quite a player
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    lol you guys and Baker Mayfield. Get over it. He's overly demonstrative and passionate/firey/douchey on the field, sure...but let's not act like he did something crazy. He ran around with a flag and got drunk around cops.

    Of all the shitty, douchey characters in CFB, Mayfield is one the most harmless ones.

    He's a 2-time walk-on. Of course he's got small man syndrome.
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    If my math is correct, that means SEC teams (with the exception of their permanent crossover game), only visit the opposing stadiums of the teams in the other division once every 12 years?
    Not necessarily, some of the interdivision teams only go 4-5 years between playing, so that may be happening every 8 years.
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    I didn't think it was news that the big 6 are the movers and shakers.
    of course it's not news, but it is bullshit. I'm still not sure where you get 6 from, I hope you aren't counting LSU there. The SEC will go out of it's way to fuck LSU when it gets a chance.
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    Old 09-20-2017, 05:56 AM   #130851
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    If my math is correct, that means SEC teams (with the exception of their permanent crossover game), only visit the opposing stadiums of the teams in the other division once every 12 years?
    You might be correct, and might not, because the SEC will change the rotation on a whim. Or when it benefits particular schools.
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    You might be correct, and might not, because the SEC will change the rotation on a whim. Or when it benefits particular schools.
    That's definitely true for the ACC.

    Like I said earlier, FSU played at Pitt in 2013. Pitt doesn't play at FSU until 2020 so who knows when FSU is back at Pitt... 2027?
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    I just want this next batch of realignment to get here and hopefully we can stay set for at least a few decades.

    WVU will move to the ACC fo sho.
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    So it took SIX years for Auburn and Mizzou to play one another on their normal schedule?


    the SEC is ridiculous.

    And no, RecentlyJTRnumbers i dont need to hear your SEC justification, its stupid.


    What the hell are you talking about? I've always been against the expansion. Mizzou and TAMU wrecked the schedule. But keep jumping to conclusions I guess
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    What the hell are you talking about? I've always been against the expansion. Mizzou and TAMU wrecked the schedule. But keep jumping to conclusions I guess
    Anytime anyone in here even mentions Auburn you normally jump down their neck so I was just trying to deflect it.
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    Big 6? The SEC is protecting the interest of 4 of the 14 teams. Typical SEC bullshit.
    It's for the greater good of the SEC that Alabama, Auburn, and LSU play Tennessee, Georgia, and Florida every year respectively. It's great tradition. This is CFB that's what sells. Two of the games are actual rivalries that are well over 100 years old. Auburn/Georgia was the first CFB game played in the Deep South. It kind of has a little significance

    Florida and LSU has turned into a good rivalry that has produced some fantastic games
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    lol you guys and Baker Mayfield. Get over it. He's overly demonstrative and passionate/firey/douchey on the field, sure...but let's not act like he did something crazy. He ran around with a flag and got drunk around cops.

    Of all the shitty, douchey characters in CFB, Mayfield is one the most harmless ones.

    He's a 2-time walk-on. Of course he's got small man syndrome.
    can't believe i'm siding with an okie, but i agree. kudos to him.
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    Anytime anyone in here even mentions Auburn you normally jump down their neck so I was just trying to deflect it.
    Ah yeah every single time
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    lol you guys and Baker Mayfield. Get over it. He's overly demonstrative and passionate/firey/douchey on the field, sure...but let's not act like he did something crazy. He ran around with a flag and got drunk around cops.

    Of all the shitty, douchey characters in CFB, Mayfield is one the most harmless ones.

    He's a 2-time walk-on. Of course he's got small man syndrome.
    This is fucking funny. https://twitter.com/espn/status/910355328893583360
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    SEC rotation will always be a mess because too many teams have too many different rivalries they have to protect each year. Bama needs Auburn and Tennessee (would LSU be considered a protected rivalry?), but Auburn also needs Georgia, but Georgia also needs Florida, but Florida needs Tennessee, but Tennessee also needs Vandy...

    But agreed, splitting into pods of 4 would eliminate in-division games that nobody deems essential. I'm sure Tennessee doesn't care if they don't play Missouri every year.

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