DMB Live 25 - 5LP Vinyl (180g)

[chrisjuniper]

Originally Posted by ExistenceNow

That's not what he said.

It's exactly what he's inferring if you can't read.

"Live compilations are lame, we have tapes"

Sounds like an assertion that tapes are adequate to listen to previously unreleased live material, which they aren't. Tapes are garbage. The best sounding tapes still sound terribly. Yes I see his point he'd prefer those unreleased studios, that's not my issue with his otherwise idiotic statement. Cool you have 60k posts and he has 30k, but a garbage opinion is still garbage.

[ToySoldier#34]

calling out a mod

[Aforauer]

Originally Posted by jets42689

Praying it comes with a digital download bc i have no equipment nor do i have $900 to spend

Same here. Had to get it. Either it comes with a digital download and I play it or it doesn't and I'll open it and probably sit on the shelf. Not buying all the equipment. It's 2017, shouldn't be limited to only a vinyl. Would be ridiculous if it was only vinyl for $175.

[chrisjuniper]

Originally Posted by ToySoldier#34

calling out a mod

who cares. They're no better than anyone else here, nor do their opinions mean any more than anyone else

[BTBaboon]

Originally Posted by chrisjuniper

It's exactly what he's inferring if you can't read.

"Live compilations are lame, we have tapes"

Sounds like an assertion that tapes are adequate to listen to previously unreleased live material, which they aren't. Tapes are garbage. The best sounding tapes still sound terribly. Yes I see his point he'd prefer those unreleased studios, that's not my issue with his otherwise idiotic statement. Cool you have 60k posts and he has 30k, but a garbage opinion is still garbage.

This is the real garbage opinion.

I love how people beg for a tape of a show the next day, with zero recognition for the work the tapers do, and then people bitch about the tapes not sounding good.

[chrisjuniper]

Originally Posted by BTBaboon

This is the real garbage opinion.

I love how people beg for a tape of a show the next day, with zero recognition for the work the tapers do, and then people bitch about the tapes not sounding good.

I don't listen to tapes because taping quality is unanimously poor. It's 2017, the band should release soundboard mixes of current shows much like Phish or Dead & Co. Tapes shouldn't exist anymore.

[ExistenceNow]

Originally Posted by chrisjuniper

It's exactly what he's inferring if you can't read.

You mean implying. The writer implies. The reader infers. If you want to imply (see how that works) that I'm an idiot, you may want to use the correct word so you don't sound like one yourself.

"Live compilations are lame, we have tapes"

Sounds like an assertion that tapes are adequate to listen to previously unreleased live material, which they aren't. Tapes are garbage. The best sounding tapes still sound terribly. Yes I see his point he'd prefer those unreleased studios, that's not my issue with his otherwise idiotic statement.

That's not what you initially posted. What you inferred (see how that works) initially from his post was that he was saying a tape is better than a mastered soundboard. I said he wasn't. Now you're rolling it back to "adequate to listen to."

Cool you have 60k posts and he has 30k, but a garbage opinion is still garbage.

Neither of us mentioned our post count as some sort of measure of the validity of our opinion (hell, I didn't even state an opinion) so I'm not sure why you're bringing it up.


I'm also not sure why you're so rattled that you need to go off like that. Take a deep breath, man.

[ExistenceNow]

Originally Posted by chrisjuniper

I don't listen to tapes because taping quality is unanimously poor. It's 2017, the band should release soundboard mixes of current shows much like Phish or Dead & Co. Tapes shouldn't exist anymore.

Did a taper yell at you for screaming into his mics or something? You have a truly irrational dislike for something that is given to the community for free.

[BTBaboon]

Originally Posted by chrisjuniper

I don't listen to tapes

Originally Posted by chrisjuniper

taping quality is unanimously poor

Do you not listen, or do you listen and find the quality poor?

Listen to some of the D&T tapes from this year, quality is excellent. There's cases where I prefer the taper pull to official released mixes.

Tapers are a huge help to us fans, and they really don't deserve this kind of bashing of their work.

[mcwyffe]

Lol at major rattling happening right now.

[thedak]

Alrighty Then....

[kingofkings]

Originally Posted by ExistenceNow

Did a taper yell at you for screaming into his mics or something? You have a truly irrational dislike for something that is given to the community for free.

I know right. I can't believe I'm seeing this kind of talk about tapes. Tapes are the only reason I've been able to enjoy unreleased songs this whole time, like Break For It, and versions of songs that are unreleased. And those tapes that I have in my huge collection, ranging from the early days, to 2012 sound better than ANYTHING Rob Evans has mixed in the past couple years. The 2012 tapes especially. I listen to the East Rutherford tapes from the winter tour more than any recent live release.

[bigbeartilidie]

[socopithy]

chrisjuniper is the guy at a show who records every song from the back of uppers with his camera light on the whole time.

[socopithy]

Originally Posted by BTBaboon

Do you not listen, or do you listen and find the quality poor?

Listen to some of the D&T tapes from this year, quality is excellent. There's cases where I prefer the taper pull to official released mixes.

Tapers are a huge help to us fans, and they really don't deserve this kind of bashing of their work.

Heck, I said not long ago to my wife that I couldn't care less if 1.16 and 1.17 2015 D&T from Oakland never gets an official release because the tapes are just so damn good.

[chrisjuniper]

Originally Posted by socopithy

chrisjuniper is the guy at a show who records every song from the back of uppers with his camera light on the whole time.

I'm a huge asshole, but that's too far.

[socopithy]

Originally Posted by chrisjuniper

I'm a huge asshole, but that's too far.

Thanks for the sig. I was torn about what to use next.

[Musicology200]

Originally Posted by socopithy

Thanks for the sig. I was torn about what to use next.

LOL

[axelrod]

Originally Posted by socopithy

Thanks for the sig. I was torn about what to use next.

Game over //

[justink]

wow.

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by socopithy

Thanks for the sig. I was torn about what to use next.

Except it has a comma where you've put a period, that's not playing fair.

[chadizzy1]

Originally Posted by Jake

Side A
1. Seek Up (8.29.95 – Philadelphia, PA – Mann Center) Sold performance from the early days and just short enough to make it onto a vinyl
2. JTR (5.2.01 – Greenville, SC – Bi-Lo Center) only time Rain on Me refrain opened JTR. Unique lyrics

Side B
1. You Never Know (8.24.03 – E. Rutherford, NJ – Continental Airlines Arena) One of the best YNK's ever. Great Roi
2. Don’t Burn The Pig (7.31.02 – Bristow, VA – Nissan Pavilion at Stone Ridge) For as much love as the 4.2.02 one gets, this one is better - Best Boyd performance
3. The Stone (9.2.00 – Charlotte, NC – Blockbuster Pavilion) beloved fan favorite performance, and still considered among the top 3 Stone's ever

Side C
1. Shotgun (8.15.09 – W. Palm Beach, FL – Cruzan Amphitheatre) among the best Shotgun performances ever - great powerful version
2. A Dream So Real (9.22.07 Dallas, TX – Smirnoff Music Center) probably the best ADSR ever. Dave's scratchy vocal gives the song a bit more body,
and Rashawn and Roi are great on it
3. Busted Stuff (8.25.00 Hartford, CT – Meadows Music Theatre) Roi is fantastic on this gem that people will soon realize is the best Busted Stuff ever

Side D
1. Kit Kat Jam (6.20.03 – Darien Center, NY – Darien Lake PAC) Roi shines, great unique lyrics, really captures the mood of Dave in 03
2. Lover Lay Down (6.22.00 - Noblesville, IN – Deer Creek Music Center) beautiful rendition - Roi shines once again
3. Doobie Thing (8.31.93 – Charlottesville, VA – Trax) 1st Doobie - only multi of it, great great jam that needs to be heard.

Side E
1. Snow Outside (5.30.15 – Atlanta, GA – Aaron’s Amphitheatre at Lakewood) beautiful, underrated, and unheard version (unless you were there). Jeff and Rashawn carry the outro.
2. Warehouse (6.22.96 – Clarkston, MI – Pine Knob Music Theatre) Toy Soldiers intro, great BT

Side F
1. Say Goodbye (7.25.00 – Denver, CO – Mile High Stadium) One of the best Say Goodbye's ever - nice makeup for the error of not putting it on the BOWA v1 disc (as its listed on there)
2. #41 (12.29.96 – Landover, MD – USAir Arena) if you ever wanted to hear the album version live, this is it. Sounds exactly like the album, great Roi on sax and flute, BT is great - driving performance.

Side G
1. Don’t Drink The Water (7.13.04 – Darien Center, NY – Darien Lake PAC) powerful performance, great intro, really shines and might be the best track overall
2. Big Eyed Fish > Granny (6.21.13 – Noblesville, IN – Klipsch Music Center) nice two for one extra track, with fan fav BEF (with great Jeff) and a super tight Granny

Side H
1. Raven (4.4.02 – Washington, DC – MCI Center) This is the best Raven ever. Stefan's bass carries the song. Great Roi, Dave's emotion bleeds through the lyrics
2. #34 (8.20.05 – George, WA – The Gorge Amphitheatre) simply a beautiful performance
3. I’ll Back You Up (11.7.96 – Seattle, WA – KeyArena at Seattle Center) Dave tells a wonderful story of how he played this for Carter, and then gives a powerful lyric with accompaniment from Carter

Side I
1. Bartender (4.7.02 – Boston, MA – Fleet Center) the #1 fan fav performance of the song. Butch plays a beautiful outro with If I Only had a Brain interpolation
2. Falling Off The Roof (7.8.07 – Bridgeview, IL – Toyota Park) only live performance - it sticks with you

Side J
1. Break For It (7.4.10 – Elkorn, WI – Alpine Valley Music Center) rare live song, this is the best Break For It
2. Rhyme & Reason (9.27.94 – Charlottesville, VA – McIntire Amphitheatre) early performance, powerful - great Carter and Stefan. Dedicated to Lillywhite
3. What You Are (6.14.08 – Hartford, CT – New England Dodge Music Center) features a Lying in the Hands of God interpolation, great lyric from Dave.
Probably the best WYA ever





now you feel better?

Thanks for sharing this, Jake. I was curious about some of these that I had never heard before!

[sheldonlevene]

Solid page ants.

For what it's worth I agree that the value isn't there on this. Pleased for anyone that is getting it, but I can't justify it.

The b-sides stuff would indeed have been preferable, but they seem pretty adamant not to release anything that's not on a major release.

[Cryfreedom09]

So my question is, will this be available on CD? There seem to be some people on here with inside knowledge. Do any of y'all know if it will be available and an approximate time frame? Thanks

[kingofkings]

Originally Posted by Cryfreedom09

So my question is, will this be available on CD? There seem to be some people on here with inside knowledge. Do any of y'all know if it will be available and an approximate time frame? Thanks

no word yet on cd. I spoke with someone at the shop, and they are inquiring on details from the warehouse. as per that person, and another ant posting earlier, they think a download card will be in the box, but they are going to confirm. i should have a reply via email later today from the shop with conformation on cd, download, and/or download card. lets pray for the best. i will post as soon as i get word.

[pzamps210]

Audio question. When you rip vinyl to flac is it seamless? Are there audio quality issues?

[kingofkings]

unless someone has better inside details of course, i'm nobody special lol

[socopithy]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

Except it has a comma where you've put a period, that's not playing fair.

I have to agree with you. Fixed.

[crashintonickdm]

Rain on me refrain opened JTR 4/21/01...

[crashintonickdm]

Tapes sound like shit? lol that's so incorrect it should require permaban