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Old 09-06-2018, 10:05 AM   #99361
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sounds like C2S bit on the piece hook, line and sinker.
Let’s see where this goes.

Not to worried to have an opposing opinion than that of the hard left. You all see everything through a lense I don’t have on.
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    What can possibly be this person's motivation for writing this?
    "The 25th Amendment would cause a Constitutional Crisis, how can we even think to initiate it? We need more support, we need to start the conversation."

    "Well then, let's get it out into the American Public what we are dealing with in here and let them start the conversation."
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    Old 09-06-2018, 10:09 AM   #99363
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    Let’s see where this goes.

    Not to worried to have an opposing opinion than that of the hard left. You all see everything through a lense I don’t have on.
    Noone is saying its not a good thing that it happened, it can be both that, and proof that everyone in his admin are a bunch of cowards only looking out for the GOP, and to a lesser extent the country.
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    Old 09-06-2018, 10:10 AM   #99364
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    Why wouldn't those inside his admin want Pence in charge? Seems like motivation to write a hit piece.



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    Old 09-06-2018, 10:11 AM   #99365
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    Then do the right thing, not the the thing with the least risk and the least results. It's not patriotism, it's GOPism.
    For this individual person, what is the right thing?
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    Old 09-06-2018, 10:13 AM   #99366
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    Why wouldn't those "Patriots" want Pence in charge?
    Because those "Patriots" know that the majority of their party likes trump and will be mad if he isn't president. They then won't vote for other members of their party.

    It's what you might describe as "party over country"
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    Old 09-06-2018, 10:16 AM   #99367
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    Because those "Patriots" know that the majority of their party likes trump and will be mad if he isn't president. They then won't vote for other members of their party.

    It's what you might describe as "party over country"
    Yeah I feel like some are just looking at this piece is far too small of a scope.

    Everything is done with the big picture in mind.

    Not surprising this pops up almost exactly 2 months before midterms. If this has been such an issue it wouldnt have taken 2 years into his presidency to come out.

    And again, lets not forget, this is anonymous.
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    Old 09-06-2018, 10:20 AM   #99368
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    I'm sure some of my conservative friends and family were starting to waiver, if I talked politics outside of this website I would ask them if this gave them some reassurance to vote republican in 2 months.
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    Old 09-06-2018, 10:21 AM   #99369
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    Let’s see where this goes.

    Not to worried to have an opposing opinion than that of the hard left. You all see everything through a lense I don’t have on.
    Which part of the equation do you think will be off?

    Do you think his base will see the letter as anything but fake news?

    Do you think this will motivate more people on the left, as if we all weren’t painfully aware of the adult day care situation in the WH?

    Or, do you think this will be some sort of breaking point for nose holders, as opposed to a reassurance that someone is steering the ship?

    Idk man, this letter just feels like another time for John Oliver to sarcastically hit that “We got him” button.

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    Old 09-06-2018, 10:26 AM   #99370
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    An OP ed in the NY Times changes nobody’s opinion. Republicans were going to vote Republican in November regardless.
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    Old 09-06-2018, 10:26 AM   #99371
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    Which part of the equation do you think will be off?

    Do you think his base will see the letter as anything but fake news?

    Do you think this will motivate more people on the left, as if we all weren’t painfully aware of the adult day care situation in the WH?

    Or, do you think this will be some sort of breaking point for nose holders, as opposed to a reassurance that someone is steering the ship?

    Idk man, this letter just feels like another time for John Oliver to sarcastically hit that “We got him” button.

    Tl;dr: Nothing matters.
    You left out independents, and people that either didn’t vote because of or voted against Hillary.
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    Which part of the equation do you think will be off?

    Do you think his base will see the letter as anything but fake news?

    Do you think this will motivate more people on the left, as if we all weren’t painfully aware of the adult day care situation in the WH?

    Or, do you think this will be some sort of breaking point for nose holders, as opposed to a reassurance that someone is steering the ship?

    Idk man, this letter just feels like another time for John Oliver to sarcastically hit that “We got him” button.

    Tl;dr: Nothing matters.
    Exactly all of this. We've been hearing this for a while about how people within the administration were "containing" him so this is nothing new other than supposedly this is from the mouth of someone there. His supporters won't believe it or like him say it's treasonous. The rest of the GOP will be like well we've got power now let's do what we can. This doesn't move the needle at all.
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    Old 09-06-2018, 10:29 AM   #99373
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    Tony Evers’ running mate says “Take a knee.” Does Evers share that belief or does he believe that everyone should STAND UP for the national anthem out of respect for our Veterans and service members? https://t.co/0zT9X4tO7H

    https://twitter.com/ScottWalker/stat...151891456?s=19

    Folks, you work with the stuff that gets your base excited to vote. What a wild thread from walker. 6 posts about taking a knee!

    I just live in a completely different world than republicans.
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    lol

    https://twitter.com/shannonbream/sta...459825159?s=21
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    Old 09-06-2018, 10:36 AM   #99375
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    Could be GOP doing damage control, but who knows. As it stands Booker looks like a hero for standing up.
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    Old 09-06-2018, 10:38 AM   #99376
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    We're in the stupidest timeline.
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    Old 09-06-2018, 10:40 AM   #99377
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    Love how the NYT and LAT op-ed authors are basically just arguing about the best way to handle the POTUS being a complete moron.
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    Old 09-06-2018, 10:40 AM   #99378
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    Yeah I feel like some are just looking at this piece is far too small of a scope.

    Everything is done with the big picture in mind.

    Not surprising this pops up almost exactly 2 months before midterms. If this has been such an issue it wouldnt have taken 2 years into his presidency to come out.

    And again, lets not forget, this is anonymous.
    It’s not anonymous to the NYTimes.
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    Tony Evers’ running mate says “Take a knee.” Does Evers share that belief or does he believe that everyone should STAND UP for the national anthem out of respect for our Veterans and service members? https://t.co/0zT9X4tO7H

    https://twitter.com/ScottWalker/stat...151891456?s=19

    Folks, you work with the stuff that gets your base excited to vote. What a wild thread from walker. 6 posts about taking a knee!

    I just live in a completely different world than republicans.
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    Does he realize that until 2009, players generally stayed in the locker room?
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    Booker a hero
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    So it sounds like the GOP is trying to retcon this as the files were already cleared for release, and whether Booker knew or not, they can spin it and change the entire subject away from the actual story and create a new story: Booker is a drama queen. And then just pound that narrative, instead of talking about the actual issues he was raising in the first place.

    And it will work.
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    Old 09-06-2018, 10:54 AM   #99382
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    "The 25th Amendment would cause a Constitutional Crisis, how can we even think to initiate it? We need more support, we need to start the conversation."

    "Well then, let's get it out into the American Public what we are dealing with in here and let them start the conversation."
    So you agree that this letter was not a total waste of time like everyone else here is saying?
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    Of course it will work.
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    So you agree that this letter was not a total waste of time like everyone else here is saying?
    show us where anyone said that.


    It serves a purpose, but only for a small sect of the public, otherwise its just an internal stirring of the pot in the west wing.
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    show us where anyone said that.


    It serves a purpose, but only for a small sect of the public, otherwise its just an internal stirring of the pot in the west wing.
    The whole LA times you posted and agreed with shit all over the letter and person who wrote it.
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    Old 09-06-2018, 11:04 AM   #99386
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    The whole LA times you posted and agreed with shit all over the letter and person who wrote it.
    and it deserved to be shit on for the reasons laid out by multiple people in here as well.

    that doesnt mean im not glad it happened because I just know it will piss off trump.
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    So it sounds like the GOP is trying to retcon this as the files were already cleared for release, and whether Booker knew or not, they can spin it and change the entire subject away from the actual story and create a new story: Booker is a drama queen. And then just pound that narrative, instead of talking about the actual issues he was raising in the first place.

    And it will work.
    Yes, exactly.
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    Embarrassing stuff from the Dems at these hearings but it’s pretty much a tradition at this point
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    Embarrassing stuff from the Dems at these hearings but it’s pretty much a tradition at this point
    More or less embarrassing then nominating Donald Trump as your party's candidate and then supporting positions counter to your party's position for decades?
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    At lease he has a hearing...
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